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RCN
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      16th Oct 2003
My HP deskjet 970 now has power and resume lights blinking
simultaneously, and any attempt to print produces a message: "Mechanism
Error The print cartridge cannot move." It then advises me to check for
a paper jam, but there is no sign of any jam or even any stray shreds of
paper. I can move the cartridges from side to side freely by hand when
power is off.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
John


 
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      16th Oct 2003
Check that the encoding strip near the carriage bar is Ok
"RCN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My HP deskjet 970 now has power and resume lights blinking
> simultaneously, and any attempt to print produces a message: "Mechanism
> Error The print cartridge cannot move." It then advises me to check for
> a paper jam, but there is no sign of any jam or even any stray shreds of
> paper. I can move the cartridges from side to side freely by hand when
> power is off.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> John
>
>


 
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      16th Oct 2003
RCN wrote:

> My HP deskjet 970 now has power and resume lights blinking
> simultaneously, and any attempt to print produces a message: "Mechanism
> Error The print cartridge cannot move." It then advises me to check for
> a paper jam, but there is no sign of any jam or even any stray shreds of
> paper. I can move the cartridges from side to side freely by hand when
> power is off.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> John
>
>
>



Did you try pressing the resume button? If this doesn't work then maybe
these HP help pages may be of use. If there is a hidden paper jam that
you find don't try and pull the paper out the front as this can break
the little fingers on the paper pusher bar.


http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...et918369&cc=us

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...cName=bpd09315
http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...cName=bpd09170

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      16th Oct 2003
What I have found out about my 970 is that the cleaning station get crudded up
with ink and lockes up.
I have had to dissassemble the printer a couple of times and clean the ink out
in order for it to work properly ( I just did it again yesterday). Initial
indications of a crapped up cleaning station are unusual raucous noises from
the printer when it starts/tries to start printing. Eventually, it will not
print and tell you that the carriage can not move. This is because the
mechanism that seals the ink cartridges while in standby cannot retract and as
a result, the carriage is not free to move. If you are interested in the
cleaning process I can post some info on how to do it. It's a pain in the ass
to do but better than having to buy a new printer (or maybe not ?).

A word of caution. Never shut off the power to the printer by by unplugging it
or with a power strip. Use only the power button on the printer. Removing the
power aggravates the problem.

You will not be ablle to get any info from HP on this problem. I tried. Found
the info in one of there business discution groups.

Let me know via this news group if you want more info.
Good luck

"RCN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>My HP deskjet 970 now has power and resume lights blinking
>simultaneously, and any attempt to print produces a message: "Mechanism
>Error The print cartridge cannot move." It then advises me to check for
>a paper jam, but there is no sign of any jam or even any stray shreds of
>paper. I can move the cartridges from side to side freely by hand when
>power is off.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>John
>
>




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      16th Oct 2003

"tomcas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> RCN wrote:
>
> > My HP deskjet 970 now has power and resume lights blinking
> > simultaneously, and any attempt to print produces a message:

"Mechanism
> > Error The print cartridge cannot move." It then advises me to check

for
> > a paper jam, but there is no sign of any jam or even any stray

shreds of
> > paper. I can move the cartridges from side to side freely by hand

when
> > power is off.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > John
> >
> >
> >

>
>
> Did you try pressing the resume button? If this doesn't work then

maybe
> these HP help pages may be of use. If there is a hidden paper jam that
> you find don't try and pull the paper out the front as this can break
> the little fingers on the paper pusher bar.
>
>
>

http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...bpd09128&prodI
d=hpdeskjet918369&cc=us
>
> http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...cName=bpd09315
> http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/documen...cName=bpd09170
>
> --


Thanks tomcas, but unfortunately I've tried all those with no success
John RCN


 
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      16th Oct 2003
Looks like that's the way I may have to go. Could you post the info here
for me, then I can decide whether to tackle it or give up and go get a
new printer.

Thanks for that,
John RCN


"Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message news:3f8ecfbd$1_3@127.0.0.1...
> What I have found out about my 970 is that the cleaning station get

crudded up
> with ink and lockes up.
> I have had to dissassemble the printer a couple of times and clean the

ink out
> in order for it to work properly ( I just did it again yesterday).

Initial
> indications of a crapped up cleaning station are unusual raucous

noises from
> the printer when it starts/tries to start printing. Eventually, it

will not
> print and tell you that the carriage can not move. This is because the
> mechanism that seals the ink cartridges while in standby cannot

retract and as
> a result, the carriage is not free to move. If you are interested in

the
> cleaning process I can post some info on how to do it. It's a pain in

the ass
> to do but better than having to buy a new printer (or maybe not ?).
>
> A word of caution. Never shut off the power to the printer by by

unplugging it
> or with a power strip. Use only the power button on the printer.

Removing the
> power aggravates the problem.
>
> You will not be ablle to get any info from HP on this problem. I

tried. Found
> the info in one of there business discution groups.
>
> Let me know via this news group if you want more info.




 
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      17th Oct 2003
If you remove the rear door and remove the duplexer try gently rotating the
rubber roller shaft almost 1 turn till you hear a click this is the HP
mechanical reset method

"RCN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Looks like that's the way I may have to go. Could you post the info here
> for me, then I can decide whether to tackle it or give up and go get a
> new printer.
>
> Thanks for that,
> John RCN
>
>
> "Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message news:3f8ecfbd$1_3@127.0.0.1...
> > What I have found out about my 970 is that the cleaning station get

> crudded up
> > with ink and lockes up.
> > I have had to dissassemble the printer a couple of times and clean the

> ink out
> > in order for it to work properly ( I just did it again yesterday).

> Initial
> > indications of a crapped up cleaning station are unusual raucous

> noises from
> > the printer when it starts/tries to start printing. Eventually, it

> will not
> > print and tell you that the carriage can not move. This is because the
> > mechanism that seals the ink cartridges while in standby cannot

> retract and as
> > a result, the carriage is not free to move. If you are interested in

> the
> > cleaning process I can post some info on how to do it. It's a pain in

> the ass
> > to do but better than having to buy a new printer (or maybe not ?).
> >
> > A word of caution. Never shut off the power to the printer by by

> unplugging it
> > or with a power strip. Use only the power button on the printer.

> Removing the
> > power aggravates the problem.
> >
> > You will not be ablle to get any info from HP on this problem. I

> tried. Found
> > the info in one of there business discution groups.
> >
> > Let me know via this news group if you want more info.

>
>
>


 
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      17th Oct 2003
This is the information ( with attribution ) that I got originaly from an HP
discussion group.
---------------------------------------------oo-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vasily Lisov December 20,2002 13:10 PM GMT

The cleaning station needs to be cleaned. I performed it twice
with success, but I recommend to do so only on your own risk and with extreme
care.
All you need is a Torx screwdriver No.10, a couple of hours of your time and -
again - extreme care.

Remove parts in this order: ink cartridges; small panel with
buttons (unlatch and put inside); top cover; paper tray; right , bottom cover;
power supply unit; cartridge holder assembly with guiding rod; and finally the
cleaning station.
Then fully disassemble the cleaning station, clean it and let it completely
dry.
Be sure to properly locate connectors, latches and screws before dismantling
the unit.
Reassemble in reverse order.
---------------------------------------------------00---------------------------------------------------


Unfortunately there were no details on how to go about the dis-assembly.
You will find that in order to dis-assemble the plastic, you have to find the
various tabs and hooks that hold things together. Don't force anything! Look
at the underside of the printer to locate the hooks and tabs which are usually
accessible with a screw driver or your fingers. A little patience and curiosity
will be rewarded. The second time is easy which it always is once you know how.
Re-assembly is easy as thing just snap back together.

To clean things, I used warm/hot water and dish washing detergent. I think that
you will find that the small shaft with the gears on the ends, located inside
of the cleaning sump, is probably gunked up with coagulated ink making it
difficult to rotate and this is probably the cause of your problems. A good
cleaning should fix things.

It is a good idea not to leave the ink cartiridges out to long as they tend to
dry out and clog. I put a piece of plastic (from a plastic bag or somthing)
over the ink nozels and secure it with scotch tape and put them in a zip-lock
bag while you work. I also put a piece of damp paper towel in the bag to keep
it from drying out inside (I live in a semi arid region).

Let us know how you make out.

Best
Zep


"RCN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Looks like that's the way I may have to go. Could you post the info here
>for me, then I can decide whether to tackle it or give up and go get a
>new printer.
>
>Thanks for that,
>John RCN
>
>
>"Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message news:3f8ecfbd$1_3@127.0.0.1...
>> What I have found out about my 970 is that the cleaning station get

>crudded up
>> with ink and lockes up.
>> I have had to dissassemble the printer a couple of times and clean the

>ink out
>> in order for it to work properly ( I just did it again yesterday).

>Initial
>> indications of a crapped up cleaning station are unusual raucous

>noises from
>> the printer when it starts/tries to start printing. Eventually, it

>will not
>> print and tell you that the carriage can not move. This is because the
>> mechanism that seals the ink cartridges while in standby cannot

>retract and as
>> a result, the carriage is not free to move. If you are interested in

>the
>> cleaning process I can post some info on how to do it. It's a pain in

>the ass
>> to do but better than having to buy a new printer (or maybe not ?).
>>
>> A word of caution. Never shut off the power to the printer by by

>unplugging it
>> or with a power strip. Use only the power button on the printer.

>Removing the
>> power aggravates the problem.
>>
>> You will not be ablle to get any info from HP on this problem. I

>tried. Found
>> the info in one of there business discution groups.
>>
>> Let me know via this news group if you want more info.

>
>
>




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      19th Oct 2003
Thank you for the info. I've now tried rotating the rollers both up and
down, both with the power off and the power on and my ear pretty close
to the rollers, and not heard a click. Is this a bad sign, do you know?
I may have time tomorrow to tackle trying to clean the cleaning station
as that seems to be the last resort.


"Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If you remove the rear door and remove the duplexer try gently

rotating the
> rubber roller shaft almost 1 turn till you hear a click this is the HP
> mechanical reset method




 
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Dick Flisrand
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      20th Oct 2003
If I understand your problem correctly, I did the same operation with a
different technique.

The owner was ready to throw it away, so I

-moved the cartridges to center
-put on old clothes
-found a spot on my lawn far away from things that wouldn't look good with
lots of black ink
-attached a hose end that squirts 30 feet with one stream
-opened the lid
-sprayed the cleaning station area for about 5 minutes
-sprayed the cleaning station for 5 more minutes
-rotated printer to remove most of the water
-let printer dry for some hours
-plugged in and tested
-YES

Use technique at your own risk. Your mileage may vary.

Dick

"Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message news:3f8f4ce7$1_3@127.0.0.1...
> This is the information ( with attribution ) that I got originaly from an

HP
> discussion group.
> ---------------------------------------------oo---------------------------

----------------------------------------------
> Vasily Lisov December 20,2002 13:10 PM GMT
>
> The cleaning station needs to be cleaned. I performed it twice
> with success, but I recommend to do so only on your own risk and with

extreme
> care.
> All you need is a Torx screwdriver No.10, a couple of hours of your time

and -
> again - extreme care.
>
> Remove parts in this order: ink cartridges; small panel with
> buttons (unlatch and put inside); top cover; paper tray; right , bottom

cover;
> power supply unit; cartridge holder assembly with guiding rod; and finally

the
> cleaning station.
> Then fully disassemble the cleaning station, clean it and let it

completely
> dry.
> Be sure to properly locate connectors, latches and screws before

dismantling
> the unit.
> Reassemble in reverse order.
> ---------------------------------------------------00---------------------

------------------------------
>
>
> Unfortunately there were no details on how to go about the dis-assembly.
> You will find that in order to dis-assemble the plastic, you have to find

the
> various tabs and hooks that hold things together. Don't force anything!

Look
> at the underside of the printer to locate the hooks and tabs which are

usually
> accessible with a screw driver or your fingers. A little patience and

curiosity
> will be rewarded. The second time is easy which it always is once you know

how.
> Re-assembly is easy as thing just snap back together.
>
> To clean things, I used warm/hot water and dish washing detergent. I think

that
> you will find that the small shaft with the gears on the ends, located

inside
> of the cleaning sump, is probably gunked up with coagulated ink making it
> difficult to rotate and this is probably the cause of your problems. A

good
> cleaning should fix things.
>
> It is a good idea not to leave the ink cartiridges out to long as they

tend to
> dry out and clog. I put a piece of plastic (from a plastic bag or

somthing)
> over the ink nozels and secure it with scotch tape and put them in a

zip-lock
> bag while you work. I also put a piece of damp paper towel in the bag to

keep
> it from drying out inside (I live in a semi arid region).
>
> Let us know how you make out.
>
> Best
> Zep
>
>
> "RCN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Looks like that's the way I may have to go. Could you post the info here
> >for me, then I can decide whether to tackle it or give up and go get a
> >new printer.
> >
> >Thanks for that,
> >John RCN
> >
> >
> >"Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message news:3f8ecfbd$1_3@127.0.0.1...
> >> What I have found out about my 970 is that the cleaning station get

> >crudded up
> >> with ink and lockes up.
> >> I have had to dissassemble the printer a couple of times and clean the

> >ink out
> >> in order for it to work properly ( I just did it again yesterday).

> >Initial
> >> indications of a crapped up cleaning station are unusual raucous

> >noises from
> >> the printer when it starts/tries to start printing. Eventually, it

> >will not
> >> print and tell you that the carriage can not move. This is because the
> >> mechanism that seals the ink cartridges while in standby cannot

> >retract and as
> >> a result, the carriage is not free to move. If you are interested in

> >the
> >> cleaning process I can post some info on how to do it. It's a pain in

> >the ass
> >> to do but better than having to buy a new printer (or maybe not ?).
> >>
> >> A word of caution. Never shut off the power to the printer by by

> >unplugging it
> >> or with a power strip. Use only the power button on the printer.

> >Removing the
> >> power aggravates the problem.
> >>
> >> You will not be ablle to get any info from HP on this problem. I

> >tried. Found
> >> the info in one of there business discution groups.
> >>
> >> Let me know via this news group if you want more info.

> >
> >
> >

>
>
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