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chynewalker
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      1st Feb 2010
I am designing an engineering drawing db

I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started" "in
process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
complete i want a date

How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds, so
when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete" and
then give it an approved date in another field.
 
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Keith Wilby
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      1st Feb 2010
"chynewalker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am designing an engineering drawing db
>
> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started" "in
> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
> complete i want a date
>
> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds,
> so
> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete"
> and
> then give it an approved date in another field.


Why not have a % progress complete field which, when 100 is entered, the
current date is auto-recorded? Failing that, trigger the date from
"complete" being chosen from a combo box.

Keith.
www.keithwilby.co.uk

 
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John W. Vinson
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      1st Feb 2010
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:32:01 -0800, chynewalker
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am designing an engineering drawing db
>
>I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started" "in
>process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
>complete i want a date
>
>How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds, so
>when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete" and
>then give it an approved date in another field.


Two fields is the correct design (I think we've discussed this in another
newsgroup).

If (as you should!) you use a Form to enter and edit the data, you can set the
date field in the AfterUpdate event of the status field. I'd use a Combo Box
to select the status; you could use a macro in its AfterUpdate event to set
the datestamp field. Use the SetValue action and set the field to =Date().
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Steve
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      1st Feb 2010
Hello,

I am an engineer. I have done several databases for managing drawings. For
Status, use an option group. You don't need "not started". If a drawing has
no status, it is not started. I recommend that you enter a date for each
status. This will tell you when a drawing was started, when it began to be
checked (preliminary completion) and when it was done. So an option group
and a date text box is what you need.

Steve
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"chynewalker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0943CE81-2CFE-4A9B-91A5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am designing an engineering drawing db
>
> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started" "in
> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
> complete i want a date
>
> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds,
> so
> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete"
> and
> then give it an approved date in another field.



 
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chynewalker
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      1st Feb 2010
Yes, I am using a form... thanks for the input, I will try the suggestions out

"chynewalker" wrote:

> I am designing an engineering drawing db
>
> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started" "in
> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
> complete i want a date
>
> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds, so
> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete" and
> then give it an approved date in another field.

 
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Jeff Boyce
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      1st Feb 2010
Would this approach require a total "remodel" every time a new status code
was introduced?

Regards

Jeff Boyce
Microsoft Access MVP

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possible/necessary.

"Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:O$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
>
> I am an engineer. I have done several databases for managing drawings. For
> Status, use an option group. You don't need "not started". If a drawing
> has no status, it is not started. I recommend that you enter a date for
> each status. This will tell you when a drawing was started, when it began
> to be checked (preliminary completion) and when it was done. So an option
> group and a date text box is what you need.
>
> Steve
> (E-Mail Removed)
>
>
> "chynewalker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:0943CE81-2CFE-4A9B-91A5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I am designing an engineering drawing db
>>
>> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started" "in
>> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
>> complete i want a date
>>
>> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds,
>> so
>> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete"
>> and
>> then give it an approved date in another field.

>
>



 
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Steve
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      1st Feb 2010
Engineering drawings are done in three stages:
1 In process
2 Check
3 Completed

Revisions go through the same three stages. There is no "revision" stage. In
my many years of engineering experience working with small and very large
engineering firms, I have never seen any other status code.

Structly speaking though, you are correct!

Steve

Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Would this approach require a total "remodel" every time a new status code
> was introduced?
>
> Regards
>
> Jeff Boyce
> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> --
> Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services mentioned
> in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein
> does not constitute endorsement thereof.
>
> Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no
> guarantee as to suitability.
>
> You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer
> possible/necessary.
>
> "Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am an engineer. I have done several databases for managing drawings.
>> For Status, use an option group. You don't need "not started". If a
>> drawing has no status, it is not started. I recommend that you enter a
>> date for each status. This will tell you when a drawing was started, when
>> it began to be checked (preliminary completion) and when it was done. So
>> an option group and a date text box is what you need.
>>
>> Steve
>> (E-Mail Removed)
>>
>>
>> "chynewalker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:0943CE81-2CFE-4A9B-91A5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I am designing an engineering drawing db
>>>
>>> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started"
>>> "in
>>> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
>>> complete i want a date
>>>
>>> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds,
>>> so
>>> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete"
>>> and
>>> then give it an approved date in another field.

>>
>>

>
>



 
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KARL DEWEY
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      1st Feb 2010
I am not an engineer but I have had the privilege of reviewing their work for
so odd 25-30 years and have seen many other status like --
Propose
Proposed REV
As-Built
Final

The Floor Plan might have five revisions, three proposed revisions, and 2
as-built in the works at any one time. Kinda a nightmare for QA to verify
the configuration for audit or checking as-built to the plant.


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"Steve" wrote:

> Engineering drawings are done in three stages:
> 1 In process
> 2 Check
> 3 Completed
>
> Revisions go through the same three stages. There is no "revision" stage. In
> my many years of engineering experience working with small and very large
> engineering firms, I have never seen any other status code.
>
> Structly speaking though, you are correct!
>
> Steve
>
> Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Would this approach require a total "remodel" every time a new status code
> > was introduced?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jeff Boyce
> > Microsoft Access MVP
> >
> > --
> > Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services mentioned
> > in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein
> > does not constitute endorsement thereof.
> >
> > Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with no
> > guarantee as to suitability.
> >
> > You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer
> > possible/necessary.
> >
> > "Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:O$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am an engineer. I have done several databases for managing drawings.
> >> For Status, use an option group. You don't need "not started". If a
> >> drawing has no status, it is not started. I recommend that you enter a
> >> date for each status. This will tell you when a drawing was started, when
> >> it began to be checked (preliminary completion) and when it was done. So
> >> an option group and a date text box is what you need.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >> (E-Mail Removed)
> >>
> >>
> >> "chynewalker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:0943CE81-2CFE-4A9B-91A5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>I am designing an engineering drawing db
> >>>
> >>> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started"
> >>> "in
> >>> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it is
> >>> complete i want a date
> >>>
> >>> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2 feilds,
> >>> so
> >>> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to "complete"
> >>> and
> >>> then give it an approved date in another field.
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
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>

 
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Steve
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      1st Feb 2010
These are not status! The first three are attributes of drawings and "Final"
is the same as "Completed". It's not a nightmare for QA at all!

Steve


"KARL DEWEY" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:83A45F25-3D78-4E17-8081-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am not an engineer but I have had the privilege of reviewing their work
>for
> so odd 25-30 years and have seen many other status like --
> Propose
> Proposed REV
> As-Built
> Final
>
> The Floor Plan might have five revisions, three proposed revisions, and 2
> as-built in the works at any one time. Kinda a nightmare for QA to verify
> the configuration for audit or checking as-built to the plant.
>
>
> --
> Build a little, test a little.
>
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>
>> Engineering drawings are done in three stages:
>> 1 In process
>> 2 Check
>> 3 Completed
>>
>> Revisions go through the same three stages. There is no "revision" stage.
>> In
>> my many years of engineering experience working with small and very large
>> engineering firms, I have never seen any other status code.
>>
>> Structly speaking though, you are correct!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Would this approach require a total "remodel" every time a new status
>> > code
>> > was introduced?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Jeff Boyce
>> > Microsoft Access MVP
>> >
>> > --
>> > Disclaimer: This author may have received products and services
>> > mentioned
>> > in this post. Mention and/or description of a product or service herein
>> > does not constitute endorsement thereof.
>> >
>> > Any code or pseudocode included in this post is offered "as is", with
>> > no
>> > guarantee as to suitability.
>> >
>> > You can thank the FTC of the USA for making this disclaimer
>> > possible/necessary.
>> >
>> > "Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:O$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I am an engineer. I have done several databases for managing drawings.
>> >> For Status, use an option group. You don't need "not started". If a
>> >> drawing has no status, it is not started. I recommend that you enter a
>> >> date for each status. This will tell you when a drawing was started,
>> >> when
>> >> it began to be checked (preliminary completion) and when it was done.
>> >> So
>> >> an option group and a date text box is what you need.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >> (E-Mail Removed)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "chynewalker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:0943CE81-2CFE-4A9B-91A5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>>I am designing an engineering drawing db
>> >>>
>> >>> I need to have a drawing status feild that i can choose "not started"
>> >>> "in
>> >>> process" "in checking" and when it is done "complete", but when it
>> >>> is
>> >>> complete i want a date
>> >>>
>> >>> How can i do this? right now we have an old clunky db that has 2
>> >>> feilds,
>> >>> so
>> >>> when you complete the job you have to change "in process" to
>> >>> "complete"
>> >>> and
>> >>> then give it an approved date in another field.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>> .
>>



 
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Keith Wilby
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      2nd Feb 2010
"Steve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Engineering drawings are done in three stages:
> 1 In process
> 2 Check
> 3 Completed
>
> Revisions go through the same three stages. There is no "revision" stage.
> In my many years of engineering experience working with small and very
> large engineering firms, I have never seen any other status code.
>
>


Then you have very limited experience indeed. I work for a huge engineering
multi-national and the drawing production process varies between business
units. I have seen many variations but never the one you describe. That's
not to say it's invalid but it is also not a global standard.

 
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