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Jaycee
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      12th Nov 2008
I'm trying to open an Access 2000 file format (.mdb) in Access 2007. When I
do I only have the Home tab available on the ribbon bar. I can see the
tables on the left and the form on the right. In addition, when I click the
Office button I only have "close database" and "exit access" available to
select...nothing else.

Any ideas on why this is?

Thanks.

Jaycee.

 
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Jeff Boyce
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      12th Nov 2008
Jaycee

Sounds like your application has a custom Ribbon, set up so that the user
isn't forced to learn and understand the intricacies of Access.

Regards

Jeff Boyce
Microsoft Office/Access MVP

"Jaycee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to open an Access 2000 file format (.mdb) in Access 2007. When
> I do I only have the Home tab available on the ribbon bar. I can see the
> tables on the left and the form on the right. In addition, when I click
> the Office button I only have "close database" and "exit access" available
> to select...nothing else.
>
> Any ideas on why this is?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jaycee.



 
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MarkE
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      12th Nov 2008
How do I unhide the custom ribbon?

"Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jaycee
>
> Sounds like your application has a custom Ribbon, set up so that the user
> isn't forced to learn and understand the intricacies of Access.
>
> Regards
>
> Jeff Boyce
> Microsoft Office/Access MVP
>
> "Jaycee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:EA5424F0-2863-47CD-92E7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm trying to open an Access 2000 file format (.mdb) in Access 2007.
>> When I do I only have the Home tab available on the ribbon bar. I can
>> see the tables on the left and the form on the right. In addition, when
>> I click the Office button I only have "close database" and "exit access"
>> available to select...nothing else.
>>
>> Any ideas on why this is?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jaycee.

>
>



 
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Jeff Boyce
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      12th Nov 2008
It's not particularly simple or straight-forward. You'll need to learn to
use XML and either create procedures or use a specially-named and designed
table. This is not anyway near as simple as custom menus used to be.

That said, you might be able to take a look at the properties for the forms
and delete the reference to the custom ribbon.

There are numerous resources on-line, and a book with which I have some
experience ("RibbonX", by Martin, Puls & Hennig) -- full-disclosure: I
worked as a technical editor on it.

Good luck!

Regards

Jeff Boyce
Microsoft Office/Access MVP


"MarkE" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> How do I unhide the custom ribbon?
>
> "Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eTo$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Jaycee
>>
>> Sounds like your application has a custom Ribbon, set up so that the user
>> isn't forced to learn and understand the intricacies of Access.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jeff Boyce
>> Microsoft Office/Access MVP
>>
>> "Jaycee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:EA5424F0-2863-47CD-92E7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I'm trying to open an Access 2000 file format (.mdb) in Access 2007.
>>> When I do I only have the Home tab available on the ribbon bar. I can
>>> see the tables on the left and the form on the right. In addition, when
>>> I click the Office button I only have "close database" and "exit access"
>>> available to select...nothing else.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on why this is?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jaycee.

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Charlie Slack
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      13th Nov 2008
After much looking for how to fix this issue, I found a person with the
exact same problem we have here...

* Under the office button there are only 3 options: Close Database, Exit
Access and Recent Documents.
* The ribbon has only one tab: Home, most of which is greyed out.
* The thing is stuck in Form View and there is no menu to switch view in the
Home ribbon tab.

Someone recommended holding the "Shift" key while opening the database...
and, that worked. Any more information on what might have caused this and
what the "Shift" does would be greatly appreciated.

"Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> It's not particularly simple or straight-forward. You'll need to learn to
> use XML and either create procedures or use a specially-named and designed
> table. This is not anyway near as simple as custom menus used to be.
>
> That said, you might be able to take a look at the properties for the
> forms and delete the reference to the custom ribbon.
>
> There are numerous resources on-line, and a book with which I have some
> experience ("RibbonX", by Martin, Puls & Hennig) -- full-disclosure: I
> worked as a technical editor on it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Regards
>
> Jeff Boyce
> Microsoft Office/Access MVP
>
>
> "MarkE" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> How do I unhide the custom ribbon?
>>
>> "Jeff Boyce" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:eTo$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Jaycee
>>>
>>> Sounds like your application has a custom Ribbon, set up so that the
>>> user isn't forced to learn and understand the intricacies of Access.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jeff Boyce
>>> Microsoft Office/Access MVP
>>>
>>> "Jaycee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:EA5424F0-2863-47CD-92E7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I'm trying to open an Access 2000 file format (.mdb) in Access 2007.
>>>> When I do I only have the Home tab available on the ribbon bar. I can
>>>> see the tables on the left and the form on the right. In addition,
>>>> when I click the Office button I only have "close database" and "exit
>>>> access" available to select...nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on why this is?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Jaycee.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>


 
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Albert D. Kallal
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      13th Nov 2008
"Charlie Slack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> After much looking for how to fix this issue, I found a person with the
> exact same problem we have here...
>
> * Under the office button there are only 3 options: Close Database, Exit
> Access and Recent Documents.
> * The ribbon has only one tab: Home, most of which is greyed out.
> * The thing is stuck in Form View and there is no menu to switch view in
> the Home ribbon tab.
>
> Someone recommended holding the "Shift" key while opening the database...
> and, that worked. Any more information on what might have caused this and
> what the "Shift" does would be greatly appreciated.
>


the shift key is the way you "by-pass" the "user" startup settings...

I expling more on this:

You most certainly can, and should hide all of the ms-access interface. The
options to complete hide and keep people out of the ms-access interface can
easily be done using the tools->start-up options. Using those options allows
you to complete hide the ms-access interface (tool bars, database window
etc).

Also, using these options means you do not have to bother setting up
security.

Try downloading and running the 3rd example at my following web site that
shows a hidden ms-access interface, and NO CODE is required to do
this....but just some settings in the start-up.

Check out:

http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKal...s/DownLoad.htm

After you try the application, you can exit, and then re-load the
application, but hold down the shift key to by-pass the start-up options. If
want, you can even disable the shift key by pass. I have a sample mdb file
that will let you "set" the shift key bypass on any application you want.

You can get this at:

http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKal.../msaccess.html

Of course, during development, you will hold down the shift key so your
startup settings don't run. You then develop for awhile, and then to test in
"user" mode, you exit..and then re-enter the application without the shift
key bypassed. You will likely do this dance all day long as you run/test as
user mode, and then flip back in to developer mode (shift key used..so you
don't get the main custom menu). So, you can't develop, or really modify
things when you run your application with the startup settings...so you must
shift-by-pass them when you want to work.

And, in fact, I use alt-f4 to exit the application...the mdb file should
still be highlighted in the windows explore..so, then you hit enter key
(and, hold down shift key if you need be). This key stroke sequence and
exiting and re-entering the application will occur CONSTANTLY all day long
when you are developing.

When you finally have things just right...you create the mde
you plan to distribute...

For 2007, the mdb and mde are now accDB and accDE respectively...


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Albert D. Kallal (Access MVP)
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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