As their desktop pcs seem to be very quiet

i've seen their cpu cooling which seems to rely on ducting out the
heat rather than massive fans

thanks

"zero" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> As their desktop pcs seem to be very quiet
>

They mostly use Western Digital.


> i've seen their cpu cooling which seems to rely on ducting out the
> heat rather than massive fans



Properly induced convection currents are more efficient than "brute force"
fan methods and make for quieter workstation systems. Servers, on the other
hand, use multi-fan cooling systems to save on heat sink and ducting space.



Rita

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> zero <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

>> As their desktop pcs seem to be very quiet

> They mostly use Western Digital.

>> i've seen their cpu cooling which seems to rely
>> on ducting out the heat rather than massive fans

> Properly induced convection currents are
> more efficient than "brute force" fan methods

Mindlessly silly.

> and make for quieter workstation systems. Servers, on the other hand,
> use multi-fan cooling systems to save on heat sink and ducting space.

And that sort of ducting can be quite effective WITH a quieter fan.

> > Properly induced convection currents are
> > more efficient than "brute force" fan methods
>
> Mindlessly silly.



Why is it, Rod? If Dell's engineers can produce a fanless CPU heatsink
assembly in their new line of PC's and have heated air ducted out of the
main case with a temperature controlled backup fan at the end of the duct
that turns on only when natural convection currents don't suffice. I see
nothing silly about it. Last time I checked hot air rises, you should know
that by now.


>
> > and make for quieter workstation systems. Servers, on the other hand,
> > use multi-fan cooling systems to save on heat sink and ducting space.
>
> And that sort of ducting can be quite effective WITH a quieter fan.



And is, if the temperature controlled fan has a need to turn on in the first
place. This is why Dell uses a temperature controller to vary fan speed.
Check some of their tower cases. Unfortunately, you can't get large
heatsinks, ducts, and proper convection currents to flow in a 1U and 2U rack
mounted server, hence the need for brute force fan cooling.



Rita

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>> Rita_A_Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

>>> Properly induced convection currents are
>>> more efficient than "brute force" fan methods

>> Mindlessly silly.

> Why is it, Rod?

Basic physics, stupid.

> If Dell's engineers can produce a fanless CPU heatsink assembly
> in their new line of PC's and have heated air ducted out of the
> main case with a temperature controlled backup fan at the end
> of the duct that turns on only when natural convection currents
> don't suffice. I see nothing silly about it.

It was your stupid pig ignorant claim that 'Properly
induced convection currents are more efficient than
"brute force" fan methods' that is mindlessly silly, stupid.

> Last time I checked hot air rises, you should know that by now.

Got sweet **** all to do with your terminally stupid pig
ignorant claim that 'Properly induced convection currents
are more efficient than "brute force" fan methods'

Concentrate on the MORE EFFICIENT, stupid.

>>> and make for quieter workstation systems. Servers, on the other hand,
>>> use multi-fan cooling systems to save on heat sink and ducting space.

>> And that sort of ducting can be quite effective WITH a quieter fan.

> And is, if the temperature controlled fan has a need to turn on in the first
> place. This is why Dell uses a temperature controller to vary fan speed.

Duh. Got sweet **** all to do with your terminally
stupid pig ignorant MORE EFFICIENT claim, stupid.

> Check some of their tower cases.

No thanks, I know what they do.

> Unfortunately, you can't get large heatsinks, ducts, and
> proper convection currents to flow in a 1U and 2U rack
> mounted server, hence the need for brute force fan cooling.

Got sweet **** all to do with your terminally stupid
pig ignorant MORE EFFICIENT claim, stupid.

There's always been fans in PC power supplys for a reason, stupid.

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> Rita_A_Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> > Rod Speed (E-Mail Removed) wrote
> >> Rita_A_Berkowitz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> >>> Properly induced convection currents are
> >>> more efficient than "brute force" fan methods
>
> >> Mindlessly silly.
>
> > Why is it, Rod?
>
> Basic physics, stupid.



<All childish rubish snipped>



Rod, please forgive me for responding to you in way that you are incapable
of comprehending, with basic hard facts. I do realize that it is futile to
attempt to hold a conversation with you since you're emotionally deficient
and need attention that you are incapable of getting in the real world. I'm
truly sorry that I can't give you the much craved attention you desire, so I
will say a prayer for you that Santa will bring you a nice corncob and a
quart of turpentine this Christmas. Remember, Christmas morning to soak
that corncob in turpentine and shove it up your ass. This will relieve all
you emotional turmoil. Good luck and best wishes.





Rita

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come on guys relax

dell must be on to something to make millions of pcs like this
but bottom line they r very quiet

thanks for the hd info Rita

I've heard the samsungs r very quiet as well

Thanks



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>

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> come on guys relax

What the point in that ?

And even you should have noticed that the bigot aint a guy.

> dell must be on to something to make millions of pcs like this

Separate issue entirely to that terminal stupidity about most efficient.

> but bottom line they r very quiet

Because they use a quiet fan and only turn it on when it needs to be on.

VERY basic stuff. No rocket science whatever.

> I've heard the samsungs r very quiet as well

Yep, loverly and quiet.


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On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:05:10 -0500, "Rita_A_Berkowitz"
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>"zero" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> As their desktop pcs seem to be very quiet
>>
>
>They mostly use Western Digital.
>
>
>> i've seen their cpu cooling which seems to rely on ducting out the
>> heat rather than massive fans
>
>
>
>Properly induced convection currents are more efficient than "brute force"
>fan methods and make for quieter workstation systems. Servers, on the other
>hand, use multi-fan cooling systems to save on heat sink and ducting space.
>
>
>
>Rita
>
>
>
i haven't worked for dell in about 3 years, but then they used all the
major brands (ibm, maxtor, wd, and quantiums). they use the drives
that they can get the best deal on. as for their quiet airflow setup,
it is quiet, but it is NOT as efficient as active cooling. the temps
quite often go above the P4's temp limit, so it has to throttle it
down. it is not a bad setup, but it could be better.