Hey everyone,

I created a template in PowerPoint 2007 for my research group and included
three new, custom layouts for the kinds of displays my teammates were
assembling slapdash. I provided a demo presentation to them that showed how
every layout (now 14) could be used for our purposes. I was disappointed to
see the following: They would start with the demo, delete the demo slides,
and start over with the title slides. When they did this, the three new,
custom layouts that I added vanished from the list of layouts to select and
from the "Slide Master View."

I'm guessing that once no slides use a custom layout, PowerPoint decides,
for me, that I no longer want to keep the things I spent hours making and
removes it?

I looked into the "Preserve" button, but I think that's for multiple Masters
that go together in one presentation. Even with that, you would still only
have the 11 default layouts unless someone used one of the custom layouts you
gave them. How about a button for "Preserve the selected layout so that it
remains with the presentation even if it is not used."

I hope my description of my problem makes sense. If nothing else, you
letting me know that this is, in fact, a usability flaw in the program will
save me time trying to find a solution.

Thanks for reading!

Thanks for posting this, Jeffrey. I haven't run into this -- but it could be
because I'm providing sample slides (as you did) and I'm not seeing the
users delete them all before beginning.

I'll try to test this, and if I can repro, I'll add it to some layouts /
masters complaints I've sent to Microsoft.

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"Jeffrey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:BD324BB3-AB57-4A52-873A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hey everyone,
>
> I created a template in PowerPoint 2007 for my research group and included
> three new, custom layouts for the kinds of displays my teammates were
> assembling slapdash. I provided a demo presentation to them that showed
> how
> every layout (now 14) could be used for our purposes. I was disappointed
> to
> see the following: They would start with the demo, delete the demo
> slides,
> and start over with the title slides. When they did this, the three new,
> custom layouts that I added vanished from the list of layouts to select
> and
> from the "Slide Master View."
>
> I'm guessing that once no slides use a custom layout, PowerPoint decides,
> for me, that I no longer want to keep the things I spent hours making and
> removes it?
>
> I looked into the "Preserve" button, but I think that's for multiple
> Masters
> that go together in one presentation. Even with that, you would still
> only
> have the 11 default layouts unless someone used one of the custom layouts
> you
> gave them. How about a button for "Preserve the selected layout so that
> it
> remains with the presentation even if it is not used."
>
> I hope my description of my problem makes sense. If nothing else, you
> letting me know that this is, in fact, a usability flaw in the program
> will
> save me time trying to find a solution.
>
> Thanks for reading!

Just to follow up, I can't repro this.

Hm. I can't think what in the world might be causing this. You and the users
are up-to-date on Office 2007 service packs, right?

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What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



"Echo S" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3ECC19B7-36ED-4058-89EF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for posting this, Jeffrey. I haven't run into this -- but it could
> be because I'm providing sample slides (as you did) and I'm not seeing the
> users delete them all before beginning.
>
> I'll try to test this, and if I can repro, I'll add it to some layouts /
> masters complaints I've sent to Microsoft.
>
> --
> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
> PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx
>
>
>
> "Jeffrey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:BD324BB3-AB57-4A52-873A-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I created a template in PowerPoint 2007 for my research group and
>> included
>> three new, custom layouts for the kinds of displays my teammates were
>> assembling slapdash. I provided a demo presentation to them that showed
>> how
>> every layout (now 14) could be used for our purposes. I was disappointed
>> to
>> see the following: They would start with the demo, delete the demo
>> slides,
>> and start over with the title slides. When they did this, the three new,
>> custom layouts that I added vanished from the list of layouts to select
>> and
>> from the "Slide Master View."
>>
>> I'm guessing that once no slides use a custom layout, PowerPoint decides,
>> for me, that I no longer want to keep the things I spent hours making and
>> removes it?
>>
>> I looked into the "Preserve" button, but I think that's for multiple
>> Masters
>> that go together in one presentation. Even with that, you would still
>> only
>> have the 11 default layouts unless someone used one of the custom layouts
>> you
>> gave them. How about a button for "Preserve the selected layout so that
>> it
>> remains with the presentation even if it is not used."
>>
>> I hope my description of my problem makes sense. If nothing else, you
>> letting me know that this is, in fact, a usability flaw in the program
>> will
>> save me time trying to find a solution.
>>
>> Thanks for reading!
>

I have the exact same problem in PowerPoint 2010. The Master template has a number of customized layouts. The default presentation supplied by Marketing has 28 example slides. When I delete those slides, the associated layouts are also removed. The preserve button only applies to the Slide Master and not to the Layouts.

Adding to the odd behavior, some layouts are preserved. But I can't tell what the difference between these and the ones that are removed.

> On Monday, March 29, 2010 8:43 PM Jeffrey wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I created a template in PowerPoint 2007 for my research group and included
> three new, custom layouts for the kinds of displays my teammates were
> assembling slapdash. I provided a demo presentation to them that showed how
> every layout (now 14) could be used for our purposes. I was disappointed to
> see the following: They would start with the demo, delete the demo slides,
> and start over with the title slides. When they did this, the three new,
> custom layouts that I added vanished from the list of layouts to select and
> from the "Slide Master View."
>
> I am guessing that once no slides use a custom layout, PowerPoint decides,
> for me, that I no longer want to keep the things I spent hours making and
> removes it?
>
> I looked into the "Preserve" button, but I think that is for multiple Masters
> that go together in one presentation. Even with that, you would still only
> have the 11 default layouts unless someone used one of the custom layouts you
> gave them. How about a button for "Preserve the selected layout so that it
> remains with the presentation even if it is not used."
>
> I hope my description of my problem makes sense. If nothing else, you
> letting me know that this is, in fact, a usability flaw in the program will
> save me time trying to find a solution.
>
> Thanks for reading!


>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:46 PM Echo S wrote:

>> Thanks for posting this, Jeffrey. I have not run into this -- but it could be
>> because I am providing sample slides (as you did) and I am not seeing the
>> users delete them all before beginning.
>>
>> I will try to test this, and if I can repro, I will add it to some layouts /
>> masters complaints I have sent to Microsoft.
>>
>> --
>> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
>> What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
>> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
>> PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


>>> On Friday, April 30, 2010 10:17 AM Echo S wrote:

>>> Just to follow up, I cannot repro this.
>>>
>>> Hm. I cannot think what in the world might be causing this. You and the users
>>> are up-to-date on Office 2007 service packs, right?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
>>> What's new in PPT 2010? http://www.echosvoice.com/2010.htm
>>> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
>>> PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


>>> Submitted via EggHeadCafe
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This is an old thread, but I ran into this as well.

It might be related to a presentation that was created by copying and pasting slides into a template with Keep Source Formatting preserved. This seems to associate a layout with the slide and have the preserved attribute left off.

Hi,

> This is an old thread, but I ran into this as well.

I don't see any other posting except yours.

> It might be related to a presentation that was
> created by copying and pasting slides into a template
> with Keep Source Formatting preserved.
> This seems to associate a layout with the slide
> and have the preserved attribute left off.

Which version of PowerPoint are you using? What is the problem?

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Cheers
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