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Sam
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      11th Dec 2006
I want to delete my XP.

I have data on my partition that holds XP and I want to keep it. If I
had Windows NT or 2000 on another partition, I could delete XP but I
can't.

Is there a way to delete XP only on that partition or do I have to
reload it on another and then delete from there?

Thanks

 
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DatabaseBen
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      12th Dec 2006
that is a loaded
question and winxp
is not a 2bit program


Therefore, it sounds like you
are running out of room
on the partition, so then
you want to delete it

or

winxp is causing your problems
and want to remove it. Which is it?


"Sam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I want to delete my XP.
>
> I have data on my partition that holds XP and I want to keep it. If I
> had Windows NT or 2000 on another partition, I could delete XP but I
> can't.
>
> Is there a way to delete XP only on that partition or do I have to
> reload it on another and then delete from there?
>
> Thanks
>



 
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Rock
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      12th Dec 2006
"Sam" wrote

>I want to delete my XP.
>
> I have data on my partition that holds XP and I want to keep it. If I
> had Windows NT or 2000 on another partition, I could delete XP but I
> can't.
>
> Is there a way to delete XP only on that partition or do I have to
> reload it on another and then delete from there?


Copy your data to another location, then format the partition.
 
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Sam
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      12th Dec 2006
DatabaseBen wrote:
>
> winxp is causing your problems
> and want to remove it. Which is it?


Yes, I had installed a new motherboard and the Ram I had from my
previous board was causing data corruption. I ran SFC several times
but I still have problems. I have reloaded XP with the SP2 (separate
install) several times before and I never ran into any issues.

So, now I want to kill that XP and start again without losing my data
(it's over 150 GB worth) of programs and home entertainment.

Of course, the other option is to create another XP in another
partition or drive then delete my old and likely newly created since,
if I am not mistaken, XP still retains boot info on the active
partition and the Windows partition.

I was thinking of creating an NTFS boot disk, like the old Start-up
Disk in Windows 98/ME and then from DOS deleting XP manually.

 
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Sam
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      12th Dec 2006

Rock wrote:
> Copy your data to another location, then format the partition.


Unfortunately, there is not enough room to copy the data to another
location
Also, I don't believe XP allows you to format a partition, only remove
or create a partition within the XP CD upon boot.

 
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Sam
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      12th Dec 2006
Sam wrote:

> Yes, I had installed a new motherboard and the Ram I had from my
> previous board was causing data corruption. I ran SFC several times
> but I still have problems. I have reloaded XP with the SP2 (separate
> install) several times before and I never ran into any issues.


BTW, I do have another stick of RAM that is fine (passed burn-in tests)
and I still have problems with XP.

 
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Rock
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      12th Dec 2006
"Sam" wrote

> Rock wrote:
>> Copy your data to another location, then format the partition.

>
> Unfortunately, there is not enough room to copy the data to another
> location
> Also, I don't believe XP allows you to format a partition, only remove
> or create a partition within the XP CD upon boot.



You don't have to use the XP tools. Format it in another way.

Your second post gave more info. You have an installation of XP with
programs and data that's not working right. To confirm, did you fix the
underlying hardware problems?

If so have you tried a repair install?
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

If you want to do a clean install, even in another partition, the programs
that are installed now will not run. So why not just backup the data -
maybe to an external USB drive. Hard drives are cheap these days, and an
external USB enclosure is low cost too, then do a clean install on the
current partition, reinstall programs from the original media then restore
the data.

You should always have a full and complete backup of important data.

 
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Sam
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      12th Dec 2006
Rock wrote:
>
> You don't have to use the XP tools. Format it in another way.


How?

>
> Your second post gave more info. You have an installation of XP with
> programs and data that's not working right. To confirm, did you fix the
> underlying hardware problems?
>
> If so have you tried a repair install?
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm


Tried this before and I won't do it again....too many problems on my
other computer...left too much damage, besides I don't have the time or
patience to make a slipstream CD with XP SP2 that may or may not run.
>
> If you want to do a clean install, even in another partition, the programs
> that are installed now will not run. So why not just backup the data -
> maybe to an external USB drive. Hard drives are cheap these days, and an
> external USB enclosure is low cost too, then do a clean install on the
> current partition, reinstall programs from the original media then restore
> the data.
>

So, there is no way then to delete the Windows Directory from DOS?

> You should always have a full and complete backup of important data.


It's always best...but I don't want to risk any more corruption, just
in case there are other issues that arent present yet or undiscovered.
So, if my current memory, CPU, motherboard, or even HD is causing
these new problems, I will be contributing to the problems by backing
up the data which may get corrupted during the backup process. I
don't want to risk my original data by backing it up.

My objective to ensure that I have no more problems with XP and to run
a basic install of XP for a while, that's why I want to kill XP and
start again and retain my existing data on the drive. It will be in a
"testing" phase for a bit.

 
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Rock
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      12th Dec 2006
"Sam" wrote

> Rock wrote:
>>
>> You don't have to use the XP tools. Format it in another way.

>
> How?
>
>>
>> Your second post gave more info. You have an installation of XP with
>> programs and data that's not working right. To confirm, did you fix the
>> underlying hardware problems?
>>
>> If so have you tried a repair install?
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

>
> Tried this before and I won't do it again....too many problems on my
> other computer...left too much damage, besides I don't have the time or
> patience to make a slipstream CD with XP SP2 that may or may not run.
>>
>> If you want to do a clean install, even in another partition, the
>> programs
>> that are installed now will not run. So why not just backup the data -
>> maybe to an external USB drive. Hard drives are cheap these days, and an
>> external USB enclosure is low cost too, then do a clean install on the
>> current partition, reinstall programs from the original media then
>> restore
>> the data.
>>

> So, there is no way then to delete the Windows Directory from DOS?
>
>> You should always have a full and complete backup of important data.

>
> It's always best...but I don't want to risk any more corruption, just
> in case there are other issues that arent present yet or undiscovered.
> So, if my current memory, CPU, motherboard, or even HD is causing
> these new problems, I will be contributing to the problems by backing
> up the data which may get corrupted during the backup process. I
> don't want to risk my original data by backing it up.
>
> My objective to ensure that I have no more problems with XP and to run
> a basic install of XP for a while, that's why I want to kill XP and
> start again and retain my existing data on the drive. It will be in a
> "testing" phase for a bit.


One option for formatting the drive outside of XP is to boot with a floppy
boot disk or CD and run format c:\. Here is one source for a boot disk /
CD -- bootdisk.com

http://www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm

There are multiple options here. Look at the Custom XP Fresh Install
Bootdisk for example.

I don't think I quite understand the reasoning about backing up the data.
That should be your first priority. If there are problems with the hardware
it could corrupt the drive. Take the drive out, install it in another XP or
Windows 2000 computer and copy the important data. Always, always have a
backup.



 
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Sam
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      14th Dec 2006
Rock wrote:
> >> If you want to do a clean install, even in another partition, the
> >> programs that are installed now will not run. So why not just backup the data -
> >> maybe to an external USB drive. Hard drives are cheap these days, and an
> >> external USB enclosure is low cost too, then do a clean install on the
> >> current partition, reinstall programs from the original media then
> >> restore
> >> the data.


I cant back up my hard drive using another USB2 drive since right now I
have it hooked up to my laptop.
> >

>
> One option for formatting the drive outside of XP is to boot with a floppy
> boot disk or CD and run format c:\. Here is one source for a boot disk /
> CD -- bootdisk.com
>
> http://www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm


Is there no freeware utilities that do the same thing? Format in NTFS?
Surely, there must be something available that allows one to delete
and format in NTFS and in a DOS environment?

>
> There are multiple options here. Look at the Custom XP Fresh Install
> Bootdisk for example.
>
> I don't think I quite understand the reasoning about backing up the data.
> That should be your first priority. If there are problems with the hardware
> it could corrupt the drive. Take the drive out, install it in another XP or
> Windows 2000 computer and copy the important data. Always, always have a
> backup.


Yes, I value the importance of backing up. I just cannpt backup one
USB drive to another... I am told that the risk of data corruption
errors running both drives from the USB is high. I also do not have a
progam that will check the integerity of the data as it is
transferring. So, I really have no options in backing up from one USB
to another.

I am trying to backup files from one partition to another on the same
drive, it is taking a very very long time, even with using USB2. I am
also coming across files that are uncopiable or locked for some reason.

 
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