Hello,

I've recently been having a problem defragmenting my hard drive, and
was wondering if anyone could help me?

My computer is a 3 year old PC running Windows XP (home version) with
SP2. I've regularly run scandisk and defragmented the drive since I
bought it and never had a problem up until a couple of weeks ago.
While defragging the drive, I received an alert that told me some
files could not be defragmented. But in the report, it doesn't say
which file it is.

So I did some research online and was surprised to see that this
problem was quite common. Everyone seemed to have a different
solution, so I started trying some of them.

Some suggested defragging the drive while in safe mode. I tried it..
and it didn't help (it took a LONG time too).

Other's suggested deleting all the old restore points and then running
the defragmenter. That didn't work.

Then I read that the pagefile might be fragmented. So I went into
settings and turned off the pagefile function.. rebooted and
defragged. That didn't work either.

There were other suggestions I didn't try like buying a defragmenting
program.. or simply reformatting the drive (definitely a LAST resort).

One thing that I noticed while researching was that the general
consensus was that it was nothing to worry about. Nonetheless.. I'd
like to be able to defrag my drive without getting that alert like I
was able to a couple weeks ago.

Anyhow.. I have just a couple of questions. First.. IS this problem
something I need to worry about? And secondly, is there a way I can
find out which file(s) can't be defragmented?

This is a copy of a report right after I defragmented my drive.

Volume (C
Volume size = 144 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 9.66 GB
Free space = 134 GB
Percent free space = 93 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 1 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 55,827
Average file size = 209 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 395
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 756 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,845
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 74 MB
MFT record count = 59,766
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
None


Any and all replies will be greatly appreciated!

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've recently been having a problem defragmenting my hard drive, and
> was wondering if anyone could help me?
>
> My computer is a 3 year old PC running Windows XP (home version) with
> SP2. I've regularly run scandisk and defragmented the drive since I
> bought it and never had a problem up until a couple of weeks ago.
> While defragging the drive, I received an alert that told me some
> files could not be defragmented. But in the report, it doesn't say
> which file it is.
>
> So I did some research online and was surprised to see that this
> problem was quite common. Everyone seemed to have a different
> solution, so I started trying some of them.
>
> Some suggested defragging the drive while in safe mode. I tried it..
> and it didn't help (it took a LONG time too).
>
> Other's suggested deleting all the old restore points and then running
> the defragmenter. That didn't work.
>
> Then I read that the pagefile might be fragmented. So I went into
> settings and turned off the pagefile function.. rebooted and
> defragged. That didn't work either.
>
> There were other suggestions I didn't try like buying a defragmenting
> program.. or simply reformatting the drive (definitely a LAST resort).
>
> One thing that I noticed while researching was that the general
> consensus was that it was nothing to worry about. Nonetheless.. I'd
> like to be able to defrag my drive without getting that alert like I
> was able to a couple weeks ago.
>
> Anyhow.. I have just a couple of questions. First.. IS this problem
> something I need to worry about? And secondly, is there a way I can
> find out which file(s) can't be defragmented?
>
> This is a copy of a report right after I defragmented my drive.
>
> Volume (C
> Volume size = 144 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 9.66 GB
> Free space = 134 GB
> Percent free space = 93 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 0 %
> File fragmentation = 1 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 55,827
> Average file size = 209 KB
> Total fragmented files = 1
> Total excess fragments = 395
> Average fragments per file = 1.00
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 756 MB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 3,845
> Fragmented folders = 1
> Excess folder fragments = 0
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 74 MB
> MFT record count = 59,766
> Percent MFT in use = 78 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> None
>
>
> Any and all replies will be greatly appreciated!
>

Did you disable your anti virus auto scan before attempting the defrag?

Alias

On Mar 28, 5:50 am, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote:

> Did you disable your anti virus auto scan before attempting the defrag?
>
> Alias

Hello and thank you for the reply!

I'm using Avast AV. And no, I didn't disable it before defragmenting.
However, I never disabled it before having this problem.. and I never
got an alert like this.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> On Mar 28, 5:50 am, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote:
>
>> Did you disable your anti virus auto scan before attempting the defrag?
>>
>> Alias
>
> Hello and thank you for the reply!
>
> I'm using Avast AV. And no, I didn't disable it before defragmenting.
> However, I never disabled it before having this problem.. and I never
> got an alert like this.
>
>

I also use Avast and disable it (right click on the Avast icon in the
sys tray and choose "stop On-access protection") before defragging. Try
it. Once you're done defragging, re-enable Avast.

Alias

On Mar 28, 6:26 am, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote:

> I also use Avast and disable it (right click on the Avast icon in the
> sys tray and choose "stop On-access protection") before defragging. Try
> it. Once you're done defragging, re-enable Avast.

Well I gave it a try, and unfortunately that didn't work. I had a
feeling that wasn't the problem because in the past I had my AV
program running and never had that alert while defragging. But I
figured it was worth a shot.

I just don't get it, I always check my drive for errors.. and do anti-
virus and anti-spyware scans regularly. This all started when I
installed Windows Live Messenger on my computer.. but I don't see why
that would cause a problem.

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> Hello,
>
> I've recently been having a problem defragmenting my hard drive, and
> was wondering if anyone could help me?
>
> My computer is a 3 year old PC running Windows XP (home version) with
> SP2. I've regularly run scandisk and defragmented the drive since I
> bought it and never had a problem up until a couple of weeks ago.
> While defragging the drive, I received an alert that told me some
> files could not be defragmented. But in the report, it doesn't say
> which file it is.
>
> So I did some research online and was surprised to see that this
> problem was quite common. Everyone seemed to have a different
> solution, so I started trying some of them.
>
> Some suggested defragging the drive while in safe mode. I tried it..
> and it didn't help (it took a LONG time too).
>
> Other's suggested deleting all the old restore points and then running
> the defragmenter. That didn't work.
>
> Then I read that the pagefile might be fragmented. So I went into
> settings and turned off the pagefile function.. rebooted and
> defragged. That didn't work either.
>
> There were other suggestions I didn't try like buying a defragmenting
> program.. or simply reformatting the drive (definitely a LAST resort).
>
> One thing that I noticed while researching was that the general
> consensus was that it was nothing to worry about. Nonetheless.. I'd
> like to be able to defrag my drive without getting that alert like I
> was able to a couple weeks ago.
>
> Anyhow.. I have just a couple of questions. First.. IS this problem
> something I need to worry about? And secondly, is there a way I can
> find out which file(s) can't be defragmented?
>
> This is a copy of a report right after I defragmented my drive.
>
> Volume (C
> Volume size = 144 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 9.66 GB
> Free space = 134 GB
> Percent free space = 93 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 0 %
> File fragmentation = 1 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 55,827
> Average file size = 209 KB
> Total fragmented files = 1
> Total excess fragments = 395
> Average fragments per file = 1.00
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 756 MB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 3,845
> Fragmented folders = 1
> Excess folder fragments = 0
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 74 MB
> MFT record count = 59,766
> Percent MFT in use = 78 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> None


I don't know what the problem is or what file it's flagging but the report
looks good, only one fragmented file. So my opinion is don't worry about
it.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Hi Rock

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:23:54 -0700, "Rock" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> only one fragmented file

how come its not listed in 'Files that cannot be defragmented'- maybe
it got tired?

Comments/suggestions/corrections appreciated.
larry

Any advice is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

"Larry(LJL269)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> Hi Rock
>
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:23:54 -0700, "Rock" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> only one fragmented file
>
> how come its not listed in 'Files that cannot be defragmented'- maybe
> it got tired?

Like I posted to the OP, I don't know.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

> I don't know what the problem is or what file it's flagging but the report
> looks good, only one fragmented file. So my opinion is don't worry about
> it.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

I think for the time being, that's what I'm going to do.. just not
worry about it. It would be nice to find a solution and fix it.. but
it doesn't seem to be causing any problems. So I guess I'll just let
it go.

On Mar 28, 9:05 pm, "Larry(LJL269)" <N...@EMAIL.COM> wrote:

> how come its not listed in 'Files that cannot be defragmented'- maybe
> it got tired?

That's what I don't understand. Why doesn't it list the file that
can't be defragmented?