Geoff
A Happy New Year to you.
Many MVPs will not advocate the use of automated cleaners. Many will
actively discourage their use, especially with regard to their
involvement with the Registry. cCleaner is one utility where there are
a few MVPs who will suggest that is used. The cleaning of files from
the hard drive does not appear to cause serious problems. Whilst I
have experienced no real problems when I have occasionally used Scan
for Issues it does produce a long list of issues. Most issues
identified are inconsequential but buried in the pile can be more
serious problems. Many users seeking help would not be able to know
when to leave well alone so to protect them I discourage it's use. If
I think the user has very limited understanding of computers I do not
suggest using cCleaner, preferring to encourage other less risky ways
to clean.
You will encounter those who advocate registry cleaning to achieve
better system performance. However, there are many ways to achieve a
good level of performance, without scrubbing the registry. Do what you
feel comfortable with. If you are meticulous with using System Restore
and backing up important data you will probably encounter no serious
irresolvable problems. However, are you certain the System Restore
will work when you need it? With extended systems involving removable
drives it is prone to failure. You need to know always that it is only
monitoring the volume containing your Windows operating system. System
Restore can get you out of trouble but it cannot be guaranteed to do
it every time.
I do not incorporate cCleaner into every housekeeping session. This is
a single user computer. If you have a number of users logging on Disk
CleanUp only cleans those temporary folders accessible to the user
cleaning. In this situation cCleaner is quicker and more effective.
Outlook Express also creates temporary files not picked up by Disk
CleanUp. Another measure I use is to set the system to Empty the
Temporary Internet Folder on Shutdown. An option available in Internet
Options, Advanced, Settings, Security. However, you need to use the
Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore to remove redundant Restore
Points as this task will not be carried out by cCleaner.
I remove Cookies and find that you soon collect any replacements you
need.
Whether to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe or Normal mode is not always
straight forward. I usually run it in normal mode. However, on some
systems Disk Defragmenter can be interrupted, causing it to restart.
This was much more of a problem using Windows 98 than it is now with
Windows XP. If a user has been encountering problems using Disk
Defragmenter I will often suggest running it in Safe Mode, but as part
of routine maintenance I expect users to use normal mode.
Partitioning drives can be a factor affecting how often you need to
run Disk Defragmenter and how long it takes. The current thinking is
not to partition but I am one of a minority who think it can bring
benefits, particularly if the user has two drives.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Geoff wrote:
> Hi again Gerry (Hope you had a good New Year's & a few nice reds as
> well !)
>
> I do have cCleaner already and have used that previously. The
> cCleaner was unchecked for 'Autocomplete form History' as yes it is
> a
> pain.
> I had never actually created a restore point, so am doing so from
> now
> on. Never even thought about before but obvously makes sense.
>
> The Scan for Issues is all checked (ticked) - when you say leave it
> alone are you meaning they should all be checked (ticked) or
> unchecked (no ticks) ?
>
> On the point of cCleaner and once it has run, should I be removing
> all that it finds (eg cookies etc etc) which is what I do?
>
> Anyway, completed a disc defragment like you suggested via safe mode
> and all completed well (except one movie could not done, but that is
> coming off soon). It did take some hours to complete though (80gb
> hd
> with about 50 gb used).
>
> When I get a minute again I will re-try the disc defragmenter in
> normal mode and see what happens. I'll let you know.
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>> I would suggest you try cCleaner.
>> http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
>> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>>
>> With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
>> should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
>> offers backup before removal.
>>
>> When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
>> History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
>> has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
>> recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer
>> so
>> that they can easily be re-entered.
>>
>> Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
>>
>> Next select Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and click on OK.
>> At
>> the command prompt type "chkdsk c:/f" witout the quotes making the
>> space is included. Say Y when asked to be scheduled for the next
>> time
>> the system starts and hit the ENTER key. Close Window and restart
>> computer.
>>
>> Then try running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Geoff wrote:
>>> Hi Gerry,
>>> Not sure if you will see this now as it has been a few pages ago.
>>> Ihave done what you suggested and expalined, so we go, the paste
>>> of
>>> the error event log.....
>>>
>>> Event Type: Error
>>> Event Source: Application Error
>>> Event Category: None
>>> Event ID: 1000
>>> Date: 30/12/2006
>>> Time: 1:17:33 PM
>>> User: N/A
>>> Computer: MUMANDDAD
>>> Description:
>>> Faulting application dfrgntfs.exe, version 5.1.2600.2180, faulting
>>> module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x7645574e.
>>>
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>> Data:
>>> 0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
>>> 0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
>>> 0010: 75 72 65 20 20 64 66 72 ure dfr
>>> 0018: 67 6e 74 66 73 2e 65 78 gntfs.ex
>>> 0020: 65 20 35 2e 31 2e 32 36 e 5.1.26
>>> 0028: 30 30 2e 32 31 38 30 20 00.2180
>>> 0030: 69 6e 20 75 6e 6b 6e 6f in unkno
>>> 0038: 77 6e 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 wn 0.0.0
>>> 0040: 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 .0 at of
>>> 0048: 66 73 65 74 20 37 36 34 fset 764
>>> 0050: 35 35 37 34 65 0d 0a 5574e..
>>>
>>>
>>> Well that makes absolutely no sense to me what so ever - maybe to
>>> you
>>> ??