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M Skabialka
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      23rd Sep 2009

WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk as
almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag a few
times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly the
graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in defrag, so
is not defragmented files.
I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
giving me.
Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
though I have Show hidden files turned on?
Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.


 
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Bob I
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      23rd Sep 2009
It's just a "cutesy" graphic representation of what defrag is doing.
Don't worry about it.

M Skabialka wrote:

> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk as
> almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag a few
> times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly the
> graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in defrag, so
> is not defragmented files.
> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
> giving me.
> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>
>


 
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Ian D
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      23rd Sep 2009

"M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk
> as almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag a
> few times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly the
> graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in defrag,
> so is not defragmented files.
> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
> giving me.
> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>


What does Disk Manager show? Start > Run > diskmgmt.msc.

By default System Restore will reserve 12% of your drive. It
will release space if it's needed as the drive fills beyont 88%.


 
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db
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      23rd Sep 2009
what you may have to do is run
a check disk.

the reason that it may seem to
be full could be the master file
table is not reporting accurately.

though you can run check disk
from the explorer,

I would suggest running it from
the recovery console via the
boot xp disk.

this will ensure that the o.s.
is not loaded and running
and you can run a the command
without difficulties>:

chkdsk /r

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"M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk
> as almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag a
> few times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly the
> graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in defrag,
> so is not defragmented files.
> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
> giving me.
> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>

 
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M Skabialka
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      23rd Sep 2009
I have run the chkdsk/f before the OS loads - is the chkdsk/r more thorough?

"db" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> what you may have to do is run
> a check disk.
>
> the reason that it may seem to
> be full could be the master file
> table is not reporting accurately.
>
> though you can run check disk
> from the explorer,
>
> I would suggest running it from
> the recovery console via the
> boot xp disk.
>
> this will ensure that the o.s.
> is not loaded and running
> and you can run a the command
> without difficulties>:
>
> chkdsk /r
>
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>>

>
> "M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk
>> as almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag a
>> few times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly
>> the graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in
>> defrag, so is not defragmented files.
>> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
>> giving me.
>> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
>> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
>> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>>



 
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M Skabialka
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      23rd Sep 2009
Same thing - 68% free space.

"Ian D" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk
>> as almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag a
>> few times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly
>> the graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in
>> defrag, so is not defragmented files.
>> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
>> giving me.
>> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
>> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
>> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>>

>
> What does Disk Manager show? Start > Run > diskmgmt.msc.
>
> By default System Restore will reserve 12% of your drive. It
> will release space if it's needed as the drive fills beyont 88%.
>



 
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db
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      23rd Sep 2009

yeah, I think it's better to run it from the
disk prompt that way the operating
system won't be loaded if you run
it from the desktop.

incidentally, put a space before the
slash.

the command is chkdsk /r

and cross your fingers.

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"M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have run the chkdsk/f before the OS loads - is the chkdsk/r more
> thorough?
>
> "db" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> what you may have to do is run
>> a check disk.
>>
>> the reason that it may seem to
>> be full could be the master file
>> table is not reporting accurately.
>>
>> though you can run check disk
>> from the explorer,
>>
>> I would suggest running it from
>> the recovery console via the
>> boot xp disk.
>>
>> this will ensure that the o.s.
>> is not loaded and running
>> and you can run a the command
>> without difficulties>:
>>
>> chkdsk /r
>>
>> --
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>> - @Hotmail.com
>> - nntp Postologist
>> ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>

>>
>> "M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk
>>> as almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag
>>> a few times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly
>>> the graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in
>>> defrag, so is not defragmented files.
>>> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag
>>> is giving me.
>>> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
>>> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
>>> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>>>

>
>

 
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Ian D
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      23rd Sep 2009
Have you tried Disk Cleanup? The fact that defrag ran, indicates
that there were no disk errors. If defrag finds any errors during
the disk analysis stage, it won't continue the defrag.


"M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Same thing - 68% free space.
>
> "Ian D" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "M Skabialka" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> WinXP SP2. When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk
>>> as almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. I have run defrag
>>> a few times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly
>>> the graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in
>>> defrag, so is not defragmented files.
>>> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag
>>> is giving me.
>>> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
>>> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
>>> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.
>>>

>>
>> What does Disk Manager show? Start > Run > diskmgmt.msc.
>>
>> By default System Restore will reserve 12% of your drive. It
>> will release space if it's needed as the drive fills beyont 88%.
>>

>
>



 
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      23rd Sep 2009
On Sep 23, 9:32*am, "M Skabialka" <mskabia...@NOSPAMdrc.com> wrote:
> WinXP SP2. *When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk as
> almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. *I have run defrag a few
> times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly the
> graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in defrag, so
> is not defragmented files.
> I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
> giving me.
> Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
> though I have Show hidden files turned on?
> Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.


Do you mean the graphic shows it as a lot of blue and that is not what
you expect to see?

Does lots of blue in the analysis mean the same thing as "full" to
you?

What do the defrag/analyze numbers say?

Capacity
Free Space
%Free Space

When you click My Computer in Explorer, what is in the Total Size and
Free Space columns?

My Explorer does not show a percent full column - does yours?

Do the defrag numbers match the explorer numbers? They should be
very, very close.

Explorer has options not to show hidden files, but they are still
counted in the column results.

If your disk is 160GB and Explorer says 51GB used, that is 31.8
percent, so that makes sense.

Do you still think you have an issue?



 
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Jose
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      23rd Sep 2009
On Sep 23, 5:07*pm, Jose <jose_e...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 23, 9:32*am, "M Skabialka" <mskabia...@NOSPAMdrc.com> wrote:
>
> > WinXP SP2. *When I run a defrag, the analyze graphic shows my 160GB disk as
> > almost full, yet it is only 32% full in Explorer. *I have run defrag a few
> > times recently and though the number of files is increasing slowly the
> > graphic shows the drive over 95% full, and is almost all blue in defrag, so
> > is not defragmented files.
> > I have run a chkdsk/f on boot, and that hasn't changed the info defrag is
> > giving me.
> > Are there some kind of hidden files that I am not seeing in Explorer -
> > though I have Show hidden files turned on?
> > Explorer properties show 51 GB used out of 160GB.

>
> Do you mean the graphic shows it as a lot of blue and that is not what
> you expect to see?
>
> Does lots of blue in the analysis mean the same thing as "full" to
> you?
>
> What do the defrag/analyze numbers say?
>
> Capacity
> Free Space
> %Free Space
>
> When you click My Computer in Explorer, what is in the Total Size and
> Free Space columns?
>
> My Explorer does not show a percent full column - does yours?
>
> Do the defrag numbers match the explorer numbers? *They should be
> very, very close.
>
> Explorer has options not to show hidden files, but they are still
> counted in the column results.
>
> If your disk is 160GB and Explorer says 51GB used, that is 31.8
> percent, so that makes sense.
>
> Do you still think you have an issue?


Oh yeah - right click your disk, Properties. There is a pie chart
instead of a graph.

The graph with all the blue is not a "how much free space do I have"
graph.
 
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