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sillyputty
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      16th Sep 2007
Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
of time (like 'registry cleaners')?

TweakRAM
http://www.elcor.net/tram.php

 
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Curt Christianson
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      16th Sep 2007
Glad you asked. They are, without a doubt, a waste of time! And, you're
right on the money about reg. cleaners too. I wish more users would ask
first. It would avoid a lot of future problems.

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| Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
| of time (like 'registry cleaners')?
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| TweakRAM
| http://www.elcor.net/tram.php
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Robert Moir
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      16th Sep 2007

"sillyputty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?


You're being too kind to these memory optomisers. Think snake-oil medicine
salesman and you might be about right.

Look at it this way, selling such a product demonstrates either a profound
ignorance of how modern operating systems work (and hence why would you
install software made and sold by someone that ignorant) or they know how
much of a waste of space the software is and therefore they know precisely
how much they're ripping people off (why give shameless con-artists your
money?).


 
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Tony Meloche
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      16th Sep 2007
sillyputty wrote:
> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?
>
> TweakRAM
> http://www.elcor.net/tram.php
>



Well, RAM is cheap nowadays, and many if not most computer users have a
comfortable amount of RAM on their systems - some have RAM to spare.
But the "RAM optimizer" programs go back mostly to the DOS/Windows 3.1
era when RAM was $100 for 8 megs (that is not a misprint) and people
were "willing to believe" in any product that could stretch their RAM
use. Doesn't change the fact that most, if not all RAM optimizer
programs were and are "smoke and mirrors".

There used to be a software company called "Quarterdeck". They made a
few good programs of the utility variety, but many of their programs
were predicated on the idea of "stretching" your RAM use. One of their
biggest sellers was a program specific to stretching the RAM. It worked
on this principle:

"Here is a blanket six feet long. I will cut one foot off of the end of
this blanket, and sew it onto the other end, thereby making the blanket
SEVEN feet long!"

You get the idea.

Tony
 
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Gerry
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      16th Sep 2007
In other words Tony "pyramid selling"?


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Tony Meloche wrote:
> sillyputty wrote:
>> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
>> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?
>>
>> TweakRAM
>> http://www.elcor.net/tram.php
>>

>
>
> Well, RAM is cheap nowadays, and many if not most computer users have
> a comfortable amount of RAM on their systems - some have RAM to spare.
> But the "RAM optimizer" programs go back mostly to the DOS/Windows 3.1
> era when RAM was $100 for 8 megs (that is not a misprint) and people
> were "willing to believe" in any product that could stretch their RAM
> use. Doesn't change the fact that most, if not all RAM optimizer
> programs were and are "smoke and mirrors".
>
> There used to be a software company called "Quarterdeck". They made a
> few good programs of the utility variety, but many of their programs
> were predicated on the idea of "stretching" your RAM use. One of their
> biggest sellers was a program specific to stretching the RAM. It
> worked on this principle:
>
> "Here is a blanket six feet long. I will cut one foot off of the end
> of this blanket, and sew it onto the other end, thereby making the
> blanket SEVEN feet long!"
>
> You get the idea.
>
> Tony



 
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      16th Sep 2007
windows algorithms prove
the effectiveness of these
programs.

however, i recommend
the one i have been using
for years:

http://www.amsn.ro/

btw: where did you
get your facts about registry
cleaners?

if you use windows, then
you should also follow
microsoft's guidelines:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

microsoft has the final
say in regards to it's o.s.

however, it's your final
say in regards to your p.c.

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"sillyputty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?
>
> TweakRAM
> http://www.elcor.net/tram.php
>


 
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Ken Blake, MVP
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      16th Sep 2007
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:20:27 -0700, sillyputty
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> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good



No.


> or are they a waste
> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?




No, they are much worse than a waste of time. Like registry cleaners,
they are dangerous, and more likely to cause a problem than to solve
one.

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Unknown
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      16th Sep 2007
What algorithms? There is no such thing as a memory defrag program (That has
any use)
" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:%23SNLqiH%(E-Mail Removed)...
> windows algorithms prove
> the effectiveness of these
> programs.
>
> however, i recommend
> the one i have been using
> for years:
>
> http://www.amsn.ro/
>
> btw: where did you
> get your facts about registry
> cleaners?
>
> if you use windows, then
> you should also follow
> microsoft's guidelines:
>
> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
>
> microsoft has the final
> say in regards to it's o.s.
>
> however, it's your final
> say in regards to your p.c.
>
> --
>
> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>
>
> .
>
>
> "sillyputty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
>> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?
>>
>> TweakRAM
>> http://www.elcor.net/tram.php
>>

>



 
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sillyputty
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      16th Sep 2007
On Sep 16, 7:41 am, Tony Meloche <bomba...@i2k.com> wrote:

> But the "RAM optimizer" programs go back mostly to the DOS/Windows 3.1
> era when RAM was $100 for 8 megs (that is not a misprint)


I remember when RAM was $35 per megabyte.
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      16th Sep 2007
the answers are at your
fingertips.

when you research what
i have explained, you will
then find a direct correlation
between them.

until then i sit back and
amuse myself with all
the funny adjectives used
to condemn those things that
are not understood.

(snake oil..! funny when it
is used by those who were not
born in those days.)


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"Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What algorithms? There is no such thing as a memory defrag program (That has
> any use)
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:%23SNLqiH%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> windows algorithms prove
>> the effectiveness of these
>> programs.
>>
>> however, i recommend
>> the one i have been using
>> for years:
>>
>> http://www.amsn.ro/
>>
>> btw: where did you
>> get your facts about registry
>> cleaners?
>>
>> if you use windows, then
>> you should also follow
>> microsoft's guidelines:
>>
>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
>>
>> microsoft has the final
>> say in regards to it's o.s.
>>
>> however, it's your final
>> say in regards to your p.c.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> "sillyputty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Do these 'memory optimizers' actually do any good or are they a waste
>>> of time (like 'registry cleaners')?
>>>
>>> TweakRAM
>>> http://www.elcor.net/tram.php
>>>

>>

>
>


 
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