[Pamelaj]

Hello,

I have been working on defragging the C drive, and it does well except it cannot defrag the "application data" folder, which is apparently pretty huge (1.6 GB, 5,524 files, 956 folders, 6,000 fragments)

I don't quite know how this happened, but now the regular defrag cannot handle this folder. While experimenting yesterday, I actually found something in Windows that appeared to be a "folder defrag" application. That looked like a good option, but now that I'm trying to do it, can't find that option.

Was I dreaming, or is it in there somewhere?

Any other suggestions on this?

Thanks for any help!

Pamela

[muckshifter]

err, you need a wee bit of space on the hard drive to let defrag do its bit, MS defrag is slow, even though it is a cut-down version of diskeeper.

Run diskcleanup first, get rid of some junk.

here is a good how to ... http://www.theeldergeek.com/disk_cleanup_utility.htm

[Alf]

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I thought you said theres no difference to gain using 3rd party defraggers Muck?? So whats wrong with just using the vanilla one on windows?

[muckshifter]

Originally Posted by Alf

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I thought you said theres no difference to gain using 3rd party defraggers Muck?? So whats wrong with just using the vanilla one on windows?

I wasn't suggesting a change, mealy pointing out that MS defrag is "s l o w" and needs room to preform.

Disk-clean-up is part of windows also.

[Pamelaj]

Originally Posted by muckshifter

I wasn't suggesting a change, mealy pointing out that MS defrag is "s l o w" and needs room to preform.

Disk-clean-up is part of windows also.

OK, two questions about this:

1. Is 35% space not enough to perform defrag?

2. I followed your link and it seems to be a "registry cleaner" instead of a disk cleanup utility. I've checked all of the download buttons, etc. (and even downloaded the registry cleaner, which looks like a good thing), but don't find DISK CLEANER. Are these two the same thing?

ok, sorry, another question:

3. Re space issue -- this is why I was looking at defragging folders individually -- can anyone tell me how to do that?

Thanks!

[Alf]

Originally Posted by muckshifter

I wasn't suggesting a change, mealy pointing out that MS defrag is "s l o w" and needs room to preform.

Disk-clean-up is part of windows also.

Ah, gotcha!

btw - wouldnt CCleaner be a better alternative than Disk-cleanup? I know that its much faster than Disk-cleanup (...isnt it Disk cleaner? )

[muckshifter]

Originally Posted by Pamelaj

OK, two questions about this:

1. Is 35% space not enough to perform defrag?

2. I followed your link and it seems to be a "registry cleaner" instead of a disk cleanup utility. I've checked all of the download buttons, etc. (and even downloaded the registry cleaner, which looks like a good thing), but don't find DISK CLEANER. Are these two the same thing?

ok, sorry, another question:

3. Re space issue -- this is why I was looking at defragging folders individually -- can anyone tell me how to do that?

Thanks!

sorry, err, my link does indeed go to a "how to" for MS cleanup utility ... one could always try a more direct approach I suppose ...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/310312

I have no idea if 35% is large enough, 35% of what? 20gig?

[Pamelaj]

Originally Posted by muckshifter

sorry, err, my link does indeed go to a "how to" for MS cleanup utility ... one could always try a more direct approach I suppose ...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/310312

I have no idea if 35% is large enough, 35% of what? 20gig?

Ah. I was looking at Muckshifter's link:

"Run diskcleanup first, get rid of some junk. [img]../images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

here is a good how to ... http://www.theeldergeek.com/disk_cleanup_utility.htm"

and thinking THAT was a link to a cleanup utility. My bad, I guess. So, your recommendation is to use the disk cleanup that came with windows already?

RE SIZE of C drive: 37.2 gig, free space is 13 gig

[Pamelaj]

Originally Posted by muckshifter

sorry, err, my link does indeed go to a "how to" for MS cleanup utility ... one could always try a more direct approach I suppose ...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/310312

I have no idea if 35% is large enough, 35% of what? 20gig?

OK, Now that I've got this running I see it's the same item I've used a LOT. I used it twice yesterday before looking for this forum! I also see it every time I need to download a big file. Yesterday I also went beyond that, and got rid of old restore points, old programs, etc other things -- that's how I got the 13g free. However, with that space we still couldn't do the defrag on the applications data folder, and I think this IS why my system has been so slow.

[muckshifter]

Originally Posted by Pamelaj

RE SIZE of C drive: 37.2 gig, free space is 13 gig

ah right, now that is small ... freeing up some space may indeed help.

I've never come across a 50gig HD, so I suspect this is actually a 60gig, with possible problems.

I see why you really do need a replacement drive.