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PerfectDisk 2008 Professional
http://www.raxco.com/home_office/hom...ofessional.cfm Free 30 Day Evaluation http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "ColTom2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... Hi: I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I might add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but I uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no related problems with it defragging. The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the defragmetation report for the list of these files". Here is a copy of defrag report: Volume (C ![]() Volume size = 227 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 15.97 GB Free space = 211 GB Percent free space = 92 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 72,031 Average file size = 269 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 11 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 6,383 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 107 MB MFT record count = 78,627 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it is not identified as it says "None". I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it said the volume was clean. I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully somebody has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time before. Thanks, ColTom2 |
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Hi Carey:
Will this resolve my current problem or is this software that would replace Windows XP Defrag? Thanks. ColTom2 "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)... PerfectDisk 2008 Professional http://www.raxco.com/home_office/hom...ofessional.cfm Free 30 Day Evaluation http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "ColTom2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... Hi: I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I might add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but I uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no related problems with it defragging. The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the defragmetation report for the list of these files". Here is a copy of defrag report: Volume (C ![]() Volume size = 227 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 15.97 GB Free space = 211 GB Percent free space = 92 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 72,031 Average file size = 269 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 11 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 6,383 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 107 MB MFT record count = 78,627 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it is not identified as it says "None". I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it said the volume was clean. I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully somebody has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time before. Thanks, ColTom2 |
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Using PerfectDisk will result in a much better defrag of
all files and a noticeable performance improvement in hard drive performance. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "ColTom2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... Hi Carey: Will this resolve my current problem or is this software that would replace Windows XP Defrag? Thanks. ColTom2 "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)... PerfectDisk 2008 Professional http://www.raxco.com/home_office/hom...ofessional.cfm Free 30 Day Evaluation http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "ColTom2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... Hi: I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I might add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but I uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no related problems with it defragging. The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the defragmetation report for the list of these files". Here is a copy of defrag report: Volume (C ![]() Volume size = 227 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 15.97 GB Free space = 211 GB Percent free space = 92 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 72,031 Average file size = 269 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 11 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 6,383 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 107 MB MFT record count = 78,627 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it is not identified as it says "None". I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it said the volume was clean. I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully somebody has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time before. Thanks, ColTom2 |
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3rd party utilities are hardly the way to go,in cmd run:CLEANMGR Then:
Defrag C: Once thru,exit cmd,open system properties,advanced,performance, virtual memory,change,set C: to "no page file" click set 2X,close out,restart pc.Back in xp,open cmd,type efrag C: Close when thru,reopen system,setpage file to:"let system manage" click set 2X,close out,restart pc...It might take a time or two,but the fragmented files will end.... "ColTom2" wrote: > Hi: > > I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop > VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I might > add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but I > uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I > installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no > related problems with it defragging. > > The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: > " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the > defragmetation report for the list of these files". > > Here is a copy of defrag report: > Volume (C ![]() > Volume size = 227 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 15.97 GB > Free space = 211 GB > Percent free space = 92 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 0 % > File fragmentation = 0 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 72,031 > Average file size = 269 KB > Total fragmented files = 1 > Total excess fragments = 11 > Average fragments per file = 1.00 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 1 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 6,383 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 107 MB > MFT record count = 78,627 > Percent MFT in use = 71 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented > None > > As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it is > not identified as it says "None". > > I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode > and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it said > the volume was clean. > > I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully somebody > has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time before. > > Thanks, > > ColTom2 > > > |
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ColTom2 wrote:
> Hi: > > I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop > VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I might > add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but I > uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I > installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no > related problems with it defragging. > > The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: > " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the > defragmetation report for the list of these files". > > Here is a copy of defrag report: > Volume (C ![]() > Volume size = 227 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 15.97 GB > Free space = 211 GB > Percent free space = 92 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 0 % > File fragmentation = 0 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 72,031 > Average file size = 269 KB > Total fragmented files = 1 > Total excess fragments = 11 > Average fragments per file = 1.00 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 1 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 6,383 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 107 MB > MFT record count = 78,627 > Percent MFT in use = 71 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented > None > > As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it is > not identified as it says "None". > > I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode > and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it said > the volume was clean. > > I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully somebody > has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time before. > > Thanks, > > ColTom2 > > Did you just install Windows Live Messenger or Windows Live Mail? Alias |
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Hi Andrew:
I have accomplished your instructions five times and still am getting defrag error notice. I assume that your "click set 2X" meant click on set two times. Do you have any idea as to why I am still getting error notice? Thanks "Andrew E." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:0BBAB569-075E-4423-8188-(E-Mail Removed)... 3rd party utilities are hardly the way to go,in cmd run:CLEANMGR Then: Defrag C: Once thru,exit cmd,open system properties,advanced,performance, virtual memory,change,set C: to "no page file" click set 2X,close out,restart pc.Back in xp,open cmd,type efrag C: Close when thru,reopen system,setpage file to:"let system manage" click set 2X,close out,restart pc...It might take a time or two,but the fragmented files will end.... "ColTom2" wrote: > Hi: > > I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop > VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I > might > add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but > I > uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I > installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no > related problems with it defragging. > > The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: > " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the > defragmetation report for the list of these files". > > Here is a copy of defrag report: > Volume (C ![]() > Volume size = 227 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 15.97 GB > Free space = 211 GB > Percent free space = 92 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 0 % > File fragmentation = 0 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 72,031 > Average file size = 269 KB > Total fragmented files = 1 > Total excess fragments = 11 > Average fragments per file = 1.00 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 1 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 6,383 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 107 MB > MFT record count = 78,627 > Percent MFT in use = 71 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented > None > > As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it > is > not identified as it says "None". > > I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode > and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it > said > the volume was clean. > > I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully > somebody > has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time > before. > > Thanks, > > ColTom2 > > > |
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Unfortunately Anfrew E. sent you a fool's errand! His instructions will
do nothing to change the defrag error report that you are receiving. The error that you see is that the Master File Table is in 3 fragments. The Windows XP defragmenter cannot defrag the MFT, you have to use third party tools if you want to defragment it. The question that comes to mind is "why is such a small MFT already fragmented"? Did you convert your drive from FAT32 to NTFS? I'm also not 100% sure how to interpret the reported size of the MFT and its % usage, certainly the MFT zone must be much, much, bigger than 107MB, that may be the actual usage inside the MFT zone, but it would be helpful if you could confirm the MFT actual size and MFT zone size with the use of the small (28KB) SysInternals NTFSInfo utility: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897424.aspx NTFSInfo must be run from the Command Prompt, run it and verify the MFT Information and see how big the MFT Zone actually is. John ColTom2 wrote: > Hi Andrew: > > I have accomplished your instructions five times and still am getting > defrag error notice. I assume that your "click set 2X" meant click on set > two times. > > Do you have any idea as to why I am still getting error notice? > > Thanks > > > "Andrew E." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:0BBAB569-075E-4423-8188-(E-Mail Removed)... > 3rd party utilities are hardly the way to go,in cmd run:CLEANMGR Then: > Defrag C: Once thru,exit cmd,open system properties,advanced,performance, > virtual memory,change,set C: to "no page file" click set 2X,close > out,restart > pc.Back in xp,open cmd,type efrag C: Close when thru,reopen system,set> page file to:"let system manage" click set 2X,close out,restart pc...It > might > take a time or two,but the fragmented files will end.... > > "ColTom2" wrote: > > >>Hi: >> >> I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop >>VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I >>might >>add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but >>I >>uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I >>installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no >>related problems with it defragging. >> >>The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: >>" Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the >>defragmetation report for the list of these files". >> >> Here is a copy of defrag report: >>Volume (C ![]() >> Volume size = 227 GB >> Cluster size = 4 KB >> Used space = 15.97 GB >> Free space = 211 GB >> Percent free space = 92 % >> >>Volume fragmentation >> Total fragmentation = 0 % >> File fragmentation = 0 % >> Free space fragmentation = 0 % >> >>File fragmentation >> Total files = 72,031 >> Average file size = 269 KB >> Total fragmented files = 1 >> Total excess fragments = 11 >> Average fragments per file = 1.00 >> >>Pagefile fragmentation >> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB >> Total fragments = 1 >> >>Folder fragmentation >> Total folders = 6,383 >> Fragmented folders = 1 >> Excess folder fragments = 0 >> >>Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation >> Total MFT size = 107 MB >> MFT record count = 78,627 >> Percent MFT in use = 71 % >> Total MFT fragments = 3 >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented >>None >> >> As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it >>is >>not identified as it says "None". >> >> I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode >>and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it >>said >>the volume was clean. >> >> I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully >>somebody >>has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time >>before. >> >>Thanks, >> >>ColTom2 >> >> >> > > > |
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This is not necessarily an error. If you have a running program in the
background, it may not be able to be defragged. "ColTom2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > Hi: > > I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop > VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I > might > add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but > I > uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I > installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no > related problems with it defragging. > > The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: > " Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the > defragmetation report for the list of these files". > > Here is a copy of defrag report: > Volume (C ![]() > Volume size = 227 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 15.97 GB > Free space = 211 GB > Percent free space = 92 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 0 % > File fragmentation = 0 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 72,031 > Average file size = 269 KB > Total fragmented files = 1 > Total excess fragments = 11 > Average fragments per file = 1.00 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 1 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 6,383 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 107 MB > MFT record count = 78,627 > Percent MFT in use = 71 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented > None > > As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it is > not identified as it says "None". > > I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode > and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it > said > the volume was clean. > > I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully somebody > has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time > before. > > Thanks, > > ColTom2 > > |
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Hi John:
Thanks for your reply and here is how it all got started. I ran Windows Update yesterday and installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0 with it. Shortly thereafter I tried to defrag and started getting these errors which I had never gotten before. I uninstalled the Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but it did nothing to correct this error. I have not converted any FAT32 files or drive to NFTS. I downloaded the Zip file for the NFTSInfo utility and extracted file "ntfsinfo.exe" to the same folder as the zip file. I doubled clicked on it thinking that would install it before trying to run from Cmd Prompt. A black screen briefly appeared and went away. I then went to Cmd Prompt and typed in "NFTSInfo C" and I am getting an error that says "is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." Maybe you can tell me what I am doing wrong here. Thanks "John John (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... Unfortunately Anfrew E. sent you a fool's errand! His instructions will do nothing to change the defrag error report that you are receiving. The error that you see is that the Master File Table is in 3 fragments. The Windows XP defragmenter cannot defrag the MFT, you have to use third party tools if you want to defragment it. The question that comes to mind is "why is such a small MFT already fragmented"? Did you convert your drive from FAT32 to NTFS? I'm also not 100% sure how to interpret the reported size of the MFT and its % usage, certainly the MFT zone must be much, much, bigger than 107MB, that may be the actual usage inside the MFT zone, but it would be helpful if you could confirm the MFT actual size and MFT zone size with the use of the small (28KB) SysInternals NTFSInfo utility: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897424.aspx NTFSInfo must be run from the Command Prompt, run it and verify the MFT Information and see how big the MFT Zone actually is. John ColTom2 wrote: > Hi Andrew: > > I have accomplished your instructions five times and still am getting > defrag error notice. I assume that your "click set 2X" meant click on set > two times. > > Do you have any idea as to why I am still getting error notice? > > Thanks > > > "Andrew E." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:0BBAB569-075E-4423-8188-(E-Mail Removed)... > 3rd party utilities are hardly the way to go,in cmd run:CLEANMGR Then: > Defrag C: Once thru,exit cmd,open system > properties,advanced,performance, > virtual memory,change,set C: to "no page file" click set 2X,close > out,restart > pc.Back in xp,open cmd,type efrag C: Close when thru,reopen system,set> page file to:"let system manage" click set 2X,close out,restart pc...It > might > take a time or two,but the fragmented files will end.... > > "ColTom2" wrote: > > >>Hi: >> >> I am running Windows XP Media Center (2005) SP3 on a Sony desktop >>VGC-RA716G and just today starting getting this defrag error notice. I >>might >>add that it started after I had installed Windows Desktop Search 4.0, but >>I >>uninstalled it and am now still getting the same error notice. Also I >>installed the Desktop Search 4.0 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no >>related problems with it defragging. >> >>The Defrag Error Notice reads as follows: >>" Some files on the volume could not be defragged. Please check the >>defragmetation report for the list of these files". >> >> Here is a copy of defrag report: >>Volume (C ![]() >> Volume size = 227 GB >> Cluster size = 4 KB >> Used space = 15.97 GB >> Free space = 211 GB >> Percent free space = 92 % >> >>Volume fragmentation >> Total fragmentation = 0 % >> File fragmentation = 0 % >> Free space fragmentation = 0 % >> >>File fragmentation >> Total files = 72,031 >> Average file size = 269 KB >> Total fragmented files = 1 >> Total excess fragments = 11 >> Average fragments per file = 1.00 >> >>Pagefile fragmentation >> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB >> Total fragments = 1 >> >>Folder fragmentation >> Total folders = 6,383 >> Fragmented folders = 1 >> Excess folder fragments = 0 >> >>Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation >> Total MFT size = 107 MB >> MFT record count = 78,627 >> Percent MFT in use = 71 % >> Total MFT fragments = 3 >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented >>None >> >> As you can tell from the above report it appears to be one file and it >>is >>not identified as it says "None". >> >> I also ran System Restore back to yesterday and ran Defrag in Safe Mode >>and still am getting this error notice.In addition I ran CHKDSK and it >>said >>the volume was clean. >> >> I tried to find a solution on the web, but found none. Hopefully >>somebody >>has an answer to this problem that apparently has happened many time >>before. >> >>Thanks, >> >>ColTom2 >> >> >> > > > |
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