i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
,thanks
--
sido

Oranges and Apples

Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
infecting your machine.

Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
-=-



Happy Thanksgiving Day
-=-

"colin" wrote:

> i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> ,thanks
> --
> sido

Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
sido


"Ǝиçεl" wrote:

> Oranges and Apples
>
> Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
> to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
> does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
> infecting your machine.
>
> Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
> anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
> -=-
>
>
>
> Happy Thanksgiving Day
> -=-
>
> "colin" wrote:
>
> > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> > ,thanks
> > --
> > sido

MSE includes the protection offered by defender. Think of it as a superset of
Defender.
-steve

colin <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
>protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
>computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
>sido
>
>
>"??ç?l" wrote:
>
>> Oranges and Apples
>>
>> Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
>> to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
>> does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
>> infecting your machine.
>>
>> Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
>> anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
>> -=-
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving Day
>> -=-
>>
>> "colin" wrote:
>>
>> > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
>> > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
>> > ,thanks
>> > --
>> > sido
--
Stephen Boots
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
(E-Mail Removed)

Hi guys this post helped me a little as a I recently downloaded MS Security
Essentials and it got rid of AVG. It is working well and I also noticed an
improvement in performance. I run Windows Vista on a Toshiba Laptop. THE
PROBLEM I HAVE IS: Now whenever I turn on my computer Defender notifies me
that it is turned off. Is there a way to prevent this from popping up?

"colin" wrote:

>
> Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
> protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
> computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
> sido
>
>
> "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
>
> > Oranges and Apples
> >
> > Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
> > to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
> > does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
> > infecting your machine.
> >
> > Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
> > anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
> > -=-
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving Day
> > -=-
> >
> > "colin" wrote:
> >
> > > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> > > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> > > ,thanks
> > > --
> > > sido

Hi guys this post helped me a little as a I recently downloaded MS Security
Essentials and it got rid of AVG. It is working well and I also noticed an
improvement in performance. I run Windows Vista on a Toshiba Laptop. THE
PROBLEM I HAVE IS: Now whenever I turn on my computer Defender notifies me
that it is turned off. Is there a way to prevent this from popping up?

"colin" wrote:

>
> Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
> protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
> computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
> sido
>
>
> "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
>
> > Oranges and Apples
> >
> > Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
> > to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
> > does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
> > infecting your machine.
> >
> > Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
> > anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
> > -=-
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving Day
> > -=-
> >
> > "colin" wrote:
> >
> > > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> > > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> > > ,thanks
> > > --
> > > sido

Hello Adam,

Microsoft Security Essentials should *disable* Windows Defender on Vista and
Windows 7 and *uninstall* it from XP. In some cases, this does not happen
automatically.

If Microsoft Security Essentials did not automatically *disable* Windows
Defender on Vista or Windows 7, *you* should *disable* it to prevent
conflicts. Windows Defender cannot be *uninstalled* from Vista or Windows 7.
If Microsoft Security Essentials did not automatically *uninstall* Windows
Defender on XP, you should manually *uninstall* Windows Defender via Control
Panel/Add or Remove Programs.

If Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender are both running, your
system may experience performance degradation and other problems caused by
the conflict of two services providing real time protection simultaneously.
-=-


"Adam" wrote:

> Hi guys this post helped me a little as a I recently downloaded MS Security
> Essentials and it got rid of AVG. It is working well and I also noticed an
> improvement in performance. I run Windows Vista on a Toshiba Laptop. THE
> PROBLEM I HAVE IS: Now whenever I turn on my computer Defender notifies me
> that it is turned off. Is there a way to prevent this from popping up?
>
> "colin" wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
> > protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
> > computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
> > sido
> >
> >
> > "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
> >
> > > Oranges and Apples
> > >
> > > Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
> > > to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
> > > does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
> > > infecting your machine.
> > >
> > > Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
> > > anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
> > > -=-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy Thanksgiving Day
> > > -=-
> > >
> > > "colin" wrote:
> > >
> > > > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> > > > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> > > > ,thanks
> > > > --
> > > > sido

Do Start, run, services.msc and hit enter.

Look for a Windows Defender service, and set the startup to disabled.

"Adam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0D46897C-564C-4D86-A20A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi guys this post helped me a little as a I recently downloaded MS
> Security
> Essentials and it got rid of AVG. It is working well and I also noticed an
> improvement in performance. I run Windows Vista on a Toshiba Laptop. THE
> PROBLEM I HAVE IS: Now whenever I turn on my computer Defender notifies me
> that it is turned off. Is there a way to prevent this from popping up?
>
> "colin" wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
>> protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
>> computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
>> sido
>>
>>
>> "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
>>
>> > Oranges and Apples
>> >
>> > Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not
>> > designed
>> > to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and
>> > specifically
>> > does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software
>> > from
>> > infecting your machine.
>> >
>> > Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including
>> > anti-virus,
>> > anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
>> > -=-
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Happy Thanksgiving Day
>> > -=-
>> >
>> > "colin" wrote:
>> >
>> > > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have
>> > > microsoft
>> > > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to
>> > > go with
>> > > ,thanks
>> > > --
>> > > sido

My problem is this: I installed MSE 10 days ago. When I booted up today I
noticed that Defender was off (due to a red warning alert). So I turned it on
in the Security Center. Now, MSE won't let me run its spyware protection/real
time protection and it alerts me it is off, and cannot be turned back on. The
suggested fix here in the MSE and Defender forums is to go to the
Help>Tools>Options>Administrative in Defender. However, I can't get to the
Administative level, it doesn't exist. I am the only user and the
Administator on this laptop, I need a plan to disable Defender.
I'm hoping I don't have to reinstall MSE.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote:

> Hello Adam,
>
> Microsoft Security Essentials should *disable* Windows Defender on Vista and
> Windows 7 and *uninstall* it from XP. In some cases, this does not happen
> automatically.
>
> If Microsoft Security Essentials did not automatically *disable* Windows
> Defender on Vista or Windows 7, *you* should *disable* it to prevent
> conflicts. Windows Defender cannot be *uninstalled* from Vista or Windows 7.
> If Microsoft Security Essentials did not automatically *uninstall* Windows
> Defender on XP, you should manually *uninstall* Windows Defender via Control
> Panel/Add or Remove Programs.
>
> If Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender are both running, your
> system may experience performance degradation and other problems caused by
> the conflict of two services providing real time protection simultaneously.
> -=-
>
>
> "Adam" wrote:
>
> > Hi guys this post helped me a little as a I recently downloaded MS Security
> > Essentials and it got rid of AVG. It is working well and I also noticed an
> > improvement in performance. I run Windows Vista on a Toshiba Laptop. THE
> > PROBLEM I HAVE IS: Now whenever I turn on my computer Defender notifies me
> > that it is turned off. Is there a way to prevent this from popping up?
> >
> > "colin" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
> > > protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
> > > computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
> > > sido
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oranges and Apples
> > > >
> > > > Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
> > > > to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
> > > > does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
> > > > infecting your machine.
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
> > > > anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
> > > > -=-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Happy Thanksgiving Day
> > > > -=-
> > > >
> > > > "colin" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> > > > > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> > > > > ,thanks
> > > > > --
> > > > > sido

"cmriverside" wrote:

> My problem is this: I installed MSE 10 days ago. When I booted up today I
> noticed that Defender was off (due to a red warning alert). So I turned it on
> in the Security Center. Now, MSE won't let me run its spyware protection/real
> time protection and it alerts me it is off, and cannot be turned back on. The
> suggested fix here in the MSE and Defender forums is to go to the
> Help>Tools>Options>Administrative in Defender. However, I can't get to the
> Administative level, it doesn't exist. I am the only user and the
> Administator on this laptop, I need a plan to disable Defender.
> I'm hoping I don't have to reinstall MSE.

I'm returning to edit: I did find the Admin level by scrolling down on the
page...PC101. Turned off Defender. Still couldn't get MSE or the Security
Center to allow me to turn on MSE Real-Time Protection even though neither
were now on for spyware/malware. So I just uninstalled MSE and reinstalled
it. Too many hours to fix though, three and a half hours.

Why not just auto-disable and divorce Defender from the access menu on the
Security Center? Or prompt user to choose ONE of them and give them the pros
and cons. As usual, Microsoft makes it as tough as possible.

Dislike.
>
> "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
>
> > Hello Adam,
> >
> > Microsoft Security Essentials should *disable* Windows Defender on Vista and
> > Windows 7 and *uninstall* it from XP. In some cases, this does not happen
> > automatically.
> >
> > If Microsoft Security Essentials did not automatically *disable* Windows
> > Defender on Vista or Windows 7, *you* should *disable* it to prevent
> > conflicts. Windows Defender cannot be *uninstalled* from Vista or Windows 7.
> > If Microsoft Security Essentials did not automatically *uninstall* Windows
> > Defender on XP, you should manually *uninstall* Windows Defender via Control
> > Panel/Add or Remove Programs.
> >
> > If Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender are both running, your
> > system may experience performance degradation and other problems caused by
> > the conflict of two services providing real time protection simultaneously.
> > -=-
> >
> >
> > "Adam" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys this post helped me a little as a I recently downloaded MS Security
> > > Essentials and it got rid of AVG. It is working well and I also noticed an
> > > improvement in performance. I run Windows Vista on a Toshiba Laptop. THE
> > > PROBLEM I HAVE IS: Now whenever I turn on my computer Defender notifies me
> > > that it is turned off. Is there a way to prevent this from popping up?
> > >
> > > "colin" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply A\p, i want to use sec essentails as my
> > > > protection,becaues its the only one that i find that does not slow the
> > > > computor down ,what do you think,thanks again,
> > > > sido
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Oranges and Apples
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed
> > > > > to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically
> > > > > does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from
> > > > > infecting your machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Microsoft Security Essentials real-time protection, including anti-virus,
> > > > > anti-rootkits, anti-Trojans and anti-spyware.
> > > > > -=-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Happy Thanksgiving Day
> > > > > -=-
> > > > >
> > > > > "colin" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > i tried to download defender but it failed because i already have microsoft
> > > > > > security essentials,you cant have both ,so which is the best one to go with
> > > > > > ,thanks
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > sido