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      20th Oct 2007
I have just started using Windows Defender Version 1.1.1593.0 with XPSp2.
About once per day it gives me the message "A known program has altered the
registry. Program is C://Program Files/Windows Defender/MpCmdRun.exe".

Is this normal? Is it necessary? What is going on?
 
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      20th Oct 2007
Hello JohnM,


This is probably happening because you have the box checked to notify you
about "Changes made to your computer by software that is allowed to run".

What you're seeing specifically is the WinDefend service updating the
scheduled scan jobs, which is nºrmªl.


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I hope this post is helpful.


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"JohnM" wrote:

> I have just started using Windows Defender Version 1.1.1593.0 with XPSp2.
> About once per day it gives me the message "A known program has altered the
> registry. Program is C://Program Files/Windows Defender/MpCmdRun.exe".
>
> Is this normal? Is it necessary? What is going on?

 
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Bill Sanderson
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      20th Oct 2007
Engel's post has some unusual formatting, but is absolutely correct on both
points--you've asked to be notified about changes to the computer by known
programs, and Windows Defender is re-scheduling its daily scan.

In fact, on my machine, I see three of these--one for each user--on each
boot.
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"JohnM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:BACE4AFD-1FE8-438A-9CCC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have just started using Windows Defender Version 1.1.1593.0 with XPSp2.
> About once per day it gives me the message "A known program has altered
> the
> registry. Program is C://Program Files/Windows Defender/MpCmdRun.exe".
>
> Is this normal? Is it necessary? What is going on?


 
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      21st Oct 2007
> This is probably happening because you have the box checked to notify you
> about "Changes made to your computer by software that is allowed to run".
>
> What you're seeing specifically is the WinDefend service updating the
> scheduled scan jobs, which is nºrmªl.
>
>


Why does Defender do that every day though? Can't the progam remember
when it is supposed to run a scan? Myself, I see that message every morning
too.




> "JohnM" wrote:
>
>> I have just started using Windows Defender Version 1.1.1593.0 with XPSp2.
>> About once per day it gives me the message "A known program has altered
>> the
>> registry. Program is C://Program Files/Windows Defender/MpCmdRun.exe".
>>
>> Is this normal? Is it necessary? What is going on?




 
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Dave M
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      21st Oct 2007
I believe what's happening is that the scheduling code internal to Defender
first cancels any ongoing jobs in the system task scheduler, and then
re-schedules the job to occur at your designated frequency. Therefore,
when you change the frequency or the time of a scan, you don't wind up with
multiple jobs set to run in the task scheduler because the job was already
scheduled to run at a different date or time. Only a programmer can love
the logic.

As to the message itself, you can eliminate it entirely by adding the
following to your tools > options window "Do not scan these files or
locations": C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\MP Scheduled Scan.job

Another way, that I use myself, is to not use the internal Defender
scheduling process at all, but to uncheck "Automatically scan my computer"
and just use the system task scheduler to start the scheduled scan with
MpCmdRun.exe. Doing that will ensure your scan runs at the exact
designated time, which some people prefer, rather than an approximate time
and it eliminates the alert message. Also, that method allows me to
schedule both daily and monthly scan cycles for quick and full scans
respectively.

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Regards, Dave


History Fan wrote:
>> This is probably happening because you have the box checked to notify
>> you
>> about "Changes made to your computer by software that is allowed to
>> run".
>>
>> What you're seeing specifically is the WinDefend service updating the
>> scheduled scan jobs, which is nºrmªl.
>>
>>

>
> Why does Defender do that every day though? Can't the progam
> remember
> when it is supposed to run a scan? Myself, I see that message every
> morning
> too.
>
>
>
>
>> "JohnM" wrote:
>>
>>> I have just started using Windows Defender Version 1.1.1593.0 with
>>> XPSp2.
>>> About once per day it gives me the message "A known program has altered
>>> the
>>> registry. Program is C://Program Files/Windows Defender/MpCmdRun.exe".
>>>
>>> Is this normal? Is it necessary? What is going on?



 
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      21st Oct 2007
> As to the message itself, you can eliminate it entirely by adding the
> following to your tools > options window "Do not scan these files or
> locations": C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\MP Scheduled Scan.job
>


I tried to follow that path, but when I got to the Task folder, there
was no + to click so I could find the MP Scheduled Scan.job folder.


 
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      21st Oct 2007
"History Fan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> As to the message itself, you can eliminate it entirely by adding the
>> following to your tools > options window "Do not scan these files or
>> locations": C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\MP Scheduled Scan.job
>>

>
> I tried to follow that path, but when I got to the Task folder,
> there was no + to click so I could find the MP Scheduled Scan.job folder.
>



Sigh. I hate making typing mistakes. Actually, there is a + next to
the Task folder, but when I clicked it, no other folder appeared.


 
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      21st Oct 2007

"Dave M" wrote
> As to the message itself, you can eliminate it entirely by adding the
> following to your tools > options window "Do not scan these files or
> locations": C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\MP Scheduled Scan.job


I think this is the first time I've ever actually understood, properly,
(despite much talk about it) exactly why that Defender popup accompanies
every startup. I've just tried your method Dave, and thank you.

And now here comes the amusing thing. Every day when I switch on, Defender
offers me that pointless little popup, but I realise now that it's gone just
how reassuring it has become. That popup represents Defender telling me,
every day - "look, I'm still here, and you can see that I'm correctly
monitoring system changes because I just told you about this one of my own".

I've subconsciously come to rely on that reassuring little popup, far more
than I knew, and I realise that with this now setting I won't get that
reassurance any more.

Guess what. I'm going to reinstate the popup.....


 
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      21st Oct 2007
> I've subconsciously come to rely on that reassuring little popup, far more
> than I knew, and I realise that with this now setting I won't get that
> reassurance any more.
>



Were you able to find the MP Scheduled Scan.job folder? I can't find
it on my PC. As far as I can get is C:\Windows\Tasks


 
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Dave M
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      22nd Oct 2007
Hi HF,

Sorry, I forgot this detail which was an old topic discussed during the
MSAS phase. The MP Scheduled Scan task is a hidden task at least in XP...
dunno bout Vista. So you have to go to the System Scheduled Tasks window
from control panel, select advanced, then click to view hidden tasks in
order to be able to see it displayed.
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Regards, Dave


History Fan wrote:
> "History Fan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eMZ4M8$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> As to the message itself, you can eliminate it entirely by adding the
>>> following to your tools > options window "Do not scan these files or
>>> locations": C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\MP Scheduled Scan.job
>>>

>>
>> I tried to follow that path, but when I got to the Task folder,
>> there was no + to click so I could find the MP Scheduled Scan.job
>> folder.
>>

>
>
> Sigh. I hate making typing mistakes. Actually, there is a + next to
> the Task folder, but when I clicked it, no other folder appeared.



 
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