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To get yourself a much better protection itīs really important to upgrade to IE7..... itīs also a great browser ! Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of much better solutions to avoid malware. The problem Iīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that is only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donīt eat it" problems  http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx regards plun > I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and > scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell folks > to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that those of us > who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is getting old. > -- > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > "Brandon" wrote: > >> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue between >> McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows Defender and I >> don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so far >> >> "Old Rebel" wrote: >> >>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and >>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to Microsoft or >>> any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the conflicts? We were >>> asked to provide more information, and we did: >>> >>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST >>> >>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 7:46 >>> PM PST >>> >>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! |
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I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many problems
with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to install them now. I'll do that when they are released as a final product - if they work. I notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I suppose as soon as Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be pushed to upgrade. Some other new vulnerability may conveniently come along to help push us. Maybe I shoud replace all of Windows with something else entirely!!! -- Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! "plun" wrote: > Hi > > To get yourself a much better protection itÂīs really important to > upgrade to IE7..... itÂīs also a great browser ! > > Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of > much better solutions to avoid malware. > > The problem IÂīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure > it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that > is > only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. > > If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but > now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers > running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donÂīt eat it" > problems > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx > > regards > plun > > > > I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and > > scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell folks > > to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that those of us > > who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is getting old. > > -- > > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > > > > "Brandon" wrote: > > > >> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue between > >> McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows Defender and I > >> don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so far > >> > >> "Old Rebel" wrote: > >> > >>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and > >>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to Microsoft or > >>> any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the conflicts? We were > >>> asked to provide more information, and we did: > >>> > >>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST > >>> > >>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat > >>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 7:46 > >>> PM PST > >>> > >>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > |
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Well, only take one step and check out any problems. - WD works. - IE7 also works and it is ready, this is "only" a "lawyer" problem for MS. Maybe IE7 destroys some business for a small group of users and sites. I cannot find any disturbing bugs within latest version. Also install Firefox if something fails with IE7, then you have a backup browser. - One Care.... well.... It is really bloaty IMHO and why even think about it. - Vista..... we havenīt seen any real answers about whats going on with Vista, Mr Nash also goes-"the parrot man", probably also Mr Ballmer... I can notice stupid issues with Vista as with Bitlocker and UAP (user account protection) and I believe MS have severe problems with this functions and authoritys for jurisdiction and competition now wakes up. regards plun > I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many problems > with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to install them now. > I'll do that when they are released as a final product - if they work. I > notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I suppose as soon as > Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be pushed to upgrade. Some other > new vulnerability may conveniently come along to help push us. Maybe I shoud > replace all of Windows with something else entirely!!! > -- > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > "plun" wrote: > >> Hi >> >> To get yourself a much better protection itīs really important to >> upgrade to IE7..... itīs also a great browser ! >> >> Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of >> much better solutions to avoid malware. >> >> The problem Iīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure >> it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that >> is >> only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. >> >> If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but >> now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers >> running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donīt eat it" >> problems >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx >> >> regards >> plun >> >> >>> I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and >>> scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell >>> folks to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that >>> those of us who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is >>> getting old. -- >>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >>> >>> >>> "Brandon" wrote: >>> >>>> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue between >>>> McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows Defender and I >>>> don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so far >>>> >>>> "Old Rebel" wrote: >>>> >>>>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and >>>>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to Microsoft >>>>> or any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the conflicts? >>>>> We were asked to provide more information, and we did: >>>>> >>>>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST >>>>> >>>>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>>>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 7:46 >>>>> PM PST >>>>> >>>>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >> >> >> |
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Remember that IE7 is still in beta the same with windows live onecare,
windows live safety center and windows defender. I have IE7 and the only issue is with McAfee but the engine is still running in the background and protecting my computer from viruses and malware. "Old Rebel" wrote: > I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many problems > with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to install them now. > I'll do that when they are released as a final product - if they work. I > notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I suppose as soon as > Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be pushed to upgrade. Some other > new vulnerability may conveniently come along to help push us. Maybe I shoud > replace all of Windows with something else entirely!!! > -- > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > "plun" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > To get yourself a much better protection itÂīs really important to > > upgrade to IE7..... itÂīs also a great browser ! > > > > Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of > > much better solutions to avoid malware. > > > > The problem IÂīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure > > it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that > > is > > only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. > > > > If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but > > now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers > > running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donÂīt eat it" > > problems > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx > > > > regards > > plun > > > > > > > I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and > > > scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell folks > > > to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that those of us > > > who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is getting old. > > > -- > > > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > > > > > > > "Brandon" wrote: > > > > > >> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue between > > >> McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows Defender and I > > >> don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so far > > >> > > >> "Old Rebel" wrote: > > >> > > >>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and > > >>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to Microsoft or > > >>> any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the conflicts? We were > > >>> asked to provide more information, and we did: > > >>> > > >>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST > > >>> > > >>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat > > >>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 7:46 > > >>> PM PST > > >>> > > >>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > > > > |
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I did not start this thread to debate IE7. I started it because nobody has
suggested a solution for the conflict between Defender and the McAfee scheduler for scans. I assume there is no solution, or they just don't care to answer. If you read the two other threads I refererence in the beginning, you will know what problems I am talking about. It is very specific. -- Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! "Brandon" wrote: > Remember that IE7 is still in beta the same with windows live onecare, > windows live safety center and windows defender. I have IE7 and the only > issue is with McAfee but the engine is still running in the background and > protecting my computer from viruses and malware. > > "Old Rebel" wrote: > > > I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many problems > > with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to install them now. > > I'll do that when they are released as a final product - if they work. I > > notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I suppose as soon as > > Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be pushed to upgrade. Some other > > new vulnerability may conveniently come along to help push us. Maybe I shoud > > replace all of Windows with something else entirely!!! > > -- > > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > > > > "plun" wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > To get yourself a much better protection itÂīs really important to > > > upgrade to IE7..... itÂīs also a great browser ! > > > > > > Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of > > > much better solutions to avoid malware. > > > > > > The problem IÂīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure > > > it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that > > > is > > > only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. > > > > > > If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but > > > now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers > > > running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donÂīt eat it" > > > problems > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx > > > > > > regards > > > plun > > > > > > > > > > I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and > > > > scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell folks > > > > to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that those of us > > > > who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is getting old. > > > > -- > > > > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > > > > > > > > > > "Brandon" wrote: > > > > > > > >> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue between > > > >> McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows Defender and I > > > >> don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so far > > > >> > > > >> "Old Rebel" wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and > > > >>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to Microsoft or > > > >>> any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the conflicts? We were > > > >>> asked to provide more information, and we did: > > > >>> > > > >>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST > > > >>> > > > >>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat > > > >>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 7:46 > > > >>> PM PST > > > >>> > > > >>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > > > > > > > |
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Beta or not for IE7, I believe this only is a "laywer" challenge for MS Redmond to solve ie a small amount of "sleepy" websites with special solutions but their laywers can go to Redmond and complain, "business critical disturbance" With One Care there is a totally different issue beacuse One Care is "Intrusive"...... IMHO regards plun > Remember that IE7 is still in beta the same with windows live onecare, > windows live safety center and windows defender. I have IE7 and the only > issue is with McAfee but the engine is still running in the background and > protecting my computer from viruses and malware. > > "Old Rebel" wrote: > >> I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many problems >> with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to install them now. >> I'll do that when they are released as a final product - if they work. I >> notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I suppose as soon as >> Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be pushed to upgrade. Some >> other new vulnerability may conveniently come along to help push us. Maybe >> I shoud replace all of Windows with something else entirely!!! >> -- >> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >> >> >> "plun" wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> To get yourself a much better protection itīs really important to >>> upgrade to IE7..... itīs also a great browser ! >>> >>> Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of >>> much better solutions to avoid malware. >>> >>> The problem Iīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure >>> it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that >>> is >>> only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. >>> >>> If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but >>> now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers >>> running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donīt eat it" >>> problems >>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx >>> >>> regards >>> plun >>> >>> >>>> I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and >>>> scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell >>>> folks to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that >>>> those of us who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is >>>> getting old. -- >>>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >>>> >>>> >>>> "Brandon" wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue >>>>> between McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows >>>>> Defender and I don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so far >>>>> >>>>> "Old Rebel" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and >>>>>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to Microsoft >>>>>> or any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the conflicts? >>>>>> We were asked to provide more information, and we did: >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST >>>>>> >>>>>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>>>>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 >>>>>> 7:46 PM PST >>>>>> >>>>>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >>> >>> >>> |
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For sure they are working with different protections which interferes with each other. But I donīt believe that MS, Symantec, McAfee, TrendMicro (the big ones) are so friendly to each other any longer beacuse of One Care. Just wait and see. All of "the big ones" also plans better security packages as for example Genesis from Symantec. I am running a special engine from TrendMicro and regularly sends information to TM. So this will be a battle........ regards plun > I did not start this thread to debate IE7. I started it because nobody has > suggested a solution for the conflict between Defender and the McAfee > scheduler for scans. I assume there is no solution, or they just don't care > to answer. If you read the two other threads I refererence in the beginning, > you will know what problems I am talking about. It is very specific. > -- > Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! > > > "Brandon" wrote: > >> Remember that IE7 is still in beta the same with windows live onecare, >> windows live safety center and windows defender. I have IE7 and the only >> issue is with McAfee but the engine is still running in the background and >> protecting my computer from viruses and malware. >> >> "Old Rebel" wrote: >> >>> I have been reading these newsgroups tool long and hearing too many >>> problems with IE7, Defender and ONe Care for me to go running to install >>> them now. I'll do that when they are released as a final product - if they >>> work. I notice they have had to postpone Vista. Problems??? I suppose as >>> soon as Vista does come out, all of us with XP will be pushed to upgrade. >>> Some other new vulnerability may conveniently come along to help push us. >>> Maybe I shoud replace all of Windows with something else entirely!!! >>> -- >>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >>> >>> >>> "plun" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> To get yourself a much better protection itīs really important to >>>> upgrade to IE7..... itīs also a great browser ! >>>> >>>> Nevertheless of latest vulnerability, under the hood there are a lot of >>>> much better solutions to avoid malware. >>>> >>>> The problem Iīve seen are some problems with MSXLM and reinstalls cure >>>> it. Also that a lot of ActiveX beeing disabled after upgrade but that >>>> is >>>> only good to start over with IE7. Also a much better cookie handling. >>>> >>>> If IE7 was a program from another vendor then MS it would be out but >>>> now we have the problem with business critical applications and laywers >>>> running to Redmond with complaints........... or "donīt eat it" >>>> problems >>>> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx >>>> >>>> regards >>>> plun >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't have IE7, but I am still having a conflict between Defender and >>>>> scheduled McAFee VirusScans. I am also tired of hearing Mircosoft tell >>>>> folks to use IE7 to avoid the new IE6 vulnerability. It's obvious that >>>>> those of us who have McAfee can't use IE7. The sales pitch for IE7 is >>>>> getting old. -- >>>>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Brandon" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you have IE7 Beta 2 preview in your computer, there is an issue >>>>>> between McAfee and IE7. I have McAfee VirusScan 10.0 and Windows >>>>>> Defender and I don't have any conflicts with McAfee and Defender so >>>>>> far >>>>>> >>>>>> "Old Rebel" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There have been several thread related to issues between Defender and >>>>>>> McAfee, but there has been no response from anyone related to >>>>>>> Microsoft or any of the MVP"s. It anything being done to resolve the >>>>>>> conflicts? We were asked to provide more information, and we did: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: McAfee disabled by Defender 3/16/2006 9:31 AM PST >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By: Tommy In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>>>>>> Subject: Steve Dodson and Bill Sanderson - Please note! 3/24/2006 >>>>>>> 7:46 PM PST >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By: Old Rebel In: microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Old Rebel: Too Old to Rebel; Too Young to just take it! >>>> >>>> >>>> |
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