I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
assuption that your customers are bad people. So you have all these
security measures implemented that do nothing but screw up your operating
system and alienate your customers. People aren't stealling your operating
system, they are trying to get the cost down to a level so they can afford
it. Most buy the software then try to put it on more than one machine to
justify the cost. You have so many security measures in place that if you
just replace your video card or upgrade your memory, you have to ask
permission from microsoft or they shut down your computer. Thanks big
brother. My solution is simple. Reduce the price of the operating system.
You might think you would lose money but even you know that isn't true.
Say, 29.95 for home edition, 39.95 for home priemium, 59.95 for ultimate
etc. I believe you would be surprised at how this will help your image and
reduce your activation costs. You may want to keep your activation system
in place for places like China but your average American doesn't want to do
anything illegal. I have some machines that still run your older systems
(win98, ME) and would probably upgrade to XP or vista if the cost wasn't
outrageous. Just something to think about.

--
I know that I am spitting into the wind. But hey, just wanted to get that
off my chest.

"Draggonfodder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
>assuption that your customers are bad people.

Wrong forum. This is a discussion group in which few if any
readers or respondents are Microsoft employees. Microsoft
makes this "notice board" available, that's about all. You might
feel better after getting this issue off your chest but you might
as well tell your dog.

If Microsoft could hire developers with advanced
college degrees who will work for minimum wage,
then they could lower the cost of their products.

Draggonfodder wrote:
> I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
> assuption that your customers are bad people. So you have all these
> security measures implemented that do nothing but screw up your
> operating system and alienate your customers. People aren't
> stealling your operating system, they are trying to get the cost down
> to a level so they can afford it. Most buy the software then try to
> put it on more than one machine to justify the cost. You have so
> many security measures in place that if you just replace your video
> card or upgrade your memory, you have to ask permission from
> microsoft or they shut down your computer. Thanks big brother. My
> solution is simple. Reduce the price of the operating system. You
> might think you would lose money but even you know that isn't true.
> Say, 29.95 for home edition, 39.95 for home priemium, 59.95 for
> ultimate etc. I believe you would be surprised at how this will help
> your image and reduce your activation costs. You may want to keep
> your activation system in place for places like China but your
> average American doesn't want to do anything illegal. I have some
> machines that still run your older systems (win98, ME) and would
> probably upgrade to XP or vista if the cost wasn't outrageous. Just
> something to think about.

Your supposition is based, probably, on your own experience and
inclinations. Microsoft's pricing strategy is based on literally billions of
experiences, bolstered by a stable of economists, capitalists, professors,
consultants, focus groups, customer feedback, sales levels, historical
averages, legal opinions, regulatory practices, memos, case studies, Monte
Carlo simulations, analysis of competitors, and God knows what else.

Carey Frisch [MVP Toady and Shill] wrote:
> If Microsoft could hire developers with advanced
> college degrees who will work for minimum wage,
> then they could lower the cost of their products.
>
>

Yeah, heaven forbid they should lower the cost of people like Ballmer
who make more than they could ever spend. The fact that MS made BILLIONS
during the pre activation days only destroys your stupid argument even more.

Alias

Your suggested prices are too high !

I would suggest 9.95 | 10.95 | 12.95 for Home, Premium and Ultimate,
respectively ! :-)

....as for MS's security measures, I have to disagree, there would no
"Windows" without them, - it would all have been completely destroyed by
theft, and we'd all have LINUX ....bwaaahahahaha <ROFL> !

....and hoping I'm not speaking too soon, I've never had any problems in
almost three decades - with OEM EULA's, and never had to go pleading to my
regional MS office here in the UK, over activation.
For example, during the past couple couple of days, I had to "pretty up"
an old SktA system box, to replace a "bodged-up" "heap of urbbish system
box - that had been sold for FAR too much money to a quite decent chap, (who
would simply not do something like that himself - to anyone else, like what
was done to him - over that sale!), ...and his XP Home SP1 went in, and
activated, and fully updated OK :-)

(...there are so many RIP-OFF artists out there, flogging ancient PC system
boxes to the "unaware," I'm pretty sure we need a law against it).

regards, Richard


"Draggonfodder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
>assuption that your customers are bad people. So you have all these
>security measures implemented that do nothing but screw up your operating
>system and alienate your customers. People aren't stealling your operating
>system, they are trying to get the cost down to a level so they can afford
>it. Most buy the software then try to put it on more than one machine to
>justify the cost. You have so many security measures in place that if you
>just replace your video card or upgrade your memory, you have to ask
>permission from microsoft or they shut down your computer. Thanks big
>brother. My solution is simple. Reduce the price of the operating system.
>You might think you would lose money but even you know that isn't true.
>Say, 29.95 for home edition, 39.95 for home priemium, 59.95 for ultimate
>etc. I believe you would be surprised at how this will help your image and
>reduce your activation costs. You may want to keep your activation system
>in place for places like China but your average American doesn't want to do
>anything illegal. I have some machines that still run your older systems
>(win98, ME) and would probably upgrade to XP or vista if the cost wasn't
>outrageous. Just something to think about.
>
> --
> I know that I am spitting into the wind. But hey, just wanted to get that
> off my chest.
>

HeyBub wrote:
> Draggonfodder wrote:
>> I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
>> assuption that your customers are bad people. So you have all these
>> security measures implemented that do nothing but screw up your
>> operating system and alienate your customers. People aren't
>> stealling your operating system, they are trying to get the cost down
>> to a level so they can afford it. Most buy the software then try to
>> put it on more than one machine to justify the cost. You have so
>> many security measures in place that if you just replace your video
>> card or upgrade your memory, you have to ask permission from
>> microsoft or they shut down your computer. Thanks big brother. My
>> solution is simple. Reduce the price of the operating system. You
>> might think you would lose money but even you know that isn't true.
>> Say, 29.95 for home edition, 39.95 for home priemium, 59.95 for
>> ultimate etc. I believe you would be surprised at how this will help
>> your image and reduce your activation costs. You may want to keep
>> your activation system in place for places like China but your
>> average American doesn't want to do anything illegal. I have some
>> machines that still run your older systems (win98, ME) and would
>> probably upgrade to XP or vista if the cost wasn't outrageous. Just
>> something to think about.
>
> Your supposition is based, probably, on your own experience and
> inclinations. Microsoft's pricing strategy is based on literally billions of
> experiences, bolstered by a stable of economists, capitalists, professors,
> consultants, focus groups, customer feedback, sales levels, historical
> averages, legal opinions, regulatory practices, memos, case studies, Monte
> Carlo simulations, analysis of competitors, and God knows what else.
>
>

You forgot to tell us how they figure in the multi million dollar
salaries and bonuses for Ballmer, Gates and the boys. You also forgot to
address the fact that MS made billions with the operating systems and
Office suites that didn't require activation. How long have you been an
MS ass kisser, bub?

Alias

Actually Windows cost less than what it probably cost you to fill up your
SUV with two tanks of gas and two or three tanks of gas can't get you very
far.

JS


"Draggonfodder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
>assuption that your customers are bad people. So you have all these
>security measures implemented that do nothing but screw up your operating
>system and alienate your customers. People aren't stealling your operating
>system, they are trying to get the cost down to a level so they can afford
>it. Most buy the software then try to put it on more than one machine to
>justify the cost. You have so many security measures in place that if you
>just replace your video card or upgrade your memory, you have to ask
>permission from microsoft or they shut down your computer. Thanks big
>brother. My solution is simple. Reduce the price of the operating system.
>You might think you would lose money but even you know that isn't true.
>Say, 29.95 for home edition, 39.95 for home priemium, 59.95 for ultimate
>etc. I believe you would be surprised at how this will help your image and
>reduce your activation costs. You may want to keep your activation system
>in place for places like China but your average American doesn't want to do
>anything illegal. I have some machines that still run your older systems
>(win98, ME) and would probably upgrade to XP or vista if the cost wasn't
>outrageous. Just something to think about.
>
> --
> I know that I am spitting into the wind. But hey, just wanted to get that
> off my chest.
>

As per the UK t.v. documentary aired a few years ago,

I wonder if MS still hires the "BEST" assembler programmers, so that no
other software companies get their hands on them, and then just leaves them
twiddling their thumbs - day in day out ?

regards, Richard


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> If Microsoft could hire developers with advanced
> college degrees who will work for minimum wage,
> then they could lower the cost of their products.
>
>

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:25:13 -0400, "Draggonfodder"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I think you have overthought all your problems and have come to the
> assuption that your customers are bad people. So you have all these
> security measures implemented that do nothing but screw up your operating
> system and alienate your customers.


You apparently think you are addressing Microsoft here, but you're
not.

This is a peer support newsgroup. We are all just Windows XP users
here, helping each other if and when we can. We are not Microsoft
employees (not even those of us with "Microsoft MVP" behind our names;
that's an honorary title for having provided consistently helpful
advice) except for an occasional employee who posts here unofficially
on his own time.

If you want to address Microsoft, you'll need to contact them
directly. Your rant above is just a waste of your (figurative) breath.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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