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      6th Nov 2006
I have a database in the US on a server. When this database is accessed from
a server in Gemany it will sometimes get corrupted. It appears that in times
of high traffic, the Access program will time out and the user will show
Program Not Responding in their task manager. When this happens, the next
user from the US will get the standard Database Corruption message. Is there
a way to extend the time for the program to open? Is there a way to fix the
corruption other than the Compact and Repair provided (This does not work).
Why would this corrupt the database? I know these are many questions & I
apologize.
Thanks for your help.
 
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      6th Nov 2006
JET databases are very suseptible to corruption from interrupted write
operations. There is a much higher probability of encountering corruption
when using a WAN (wide area network) versus the intended use which is a LAN
(local area network). Here are two articles on database corruption that are
good references:

Preventing Corruption (Allen Browne)
http://allenbrowne.com/ser-25.html

Corrupt Microsoft Access MDBs FAQ
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/corruptmdbs.htm

Here is an article on the use of WAN's with Access, written by Albert Kallal:

Using a wan with ms-access? How fast, how far?
http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal/Wan/Wans.html

I believe the only suitable solution, if you want to stay with the JET file
format, is to implement Terminal Server (TS). Albert's article discusses TS.
I suppose replication would also work, but I think support for replication
has been dropped in the new Access 2007, currently in beta. Oh, Sharepoint is
also a possible solution too, but one caveat is that one apparently has to
live without referential integrity (at least at the engine level) with a
solution that uses this technology.


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/ex...tributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
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"helplessinhawaii" wrote:

> I have a database in the US on a server. When this database is accessed from
> a server in Gemany it will sometimes get corrupted. It appears that in times
> of high traffic, the Access program will time out and the user will show
> Program Not Responding in their task manager. When this happens, the next
> user from the US will get the standard Database Corruption message. Is there
> a way to extend the time for the program to open? Is there a way to fix the
> corruption other than the Compact and Repair provided (This does not work).
> Why would this corrupt the database? I know these are many questions & I
> apologize.
> Thanks for your help.

 
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Douglas J. Steele
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      6th Nov 2006
Access isn't intended to be used over the WAN. Albert Kallal has a good
discussion of this at http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal//Wan/Wans.html

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)


"helplessinhawaii" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>I have a database in the US on a server. When this database is accessed
>from
> a server in Gemany it will sometimes get corrupted. It appears that in
> times
> of high traffic, the Access program will time out and the user will show
> Program Not Responding in their task manager. When this happens, the next
> user from the US will get the standard Database Corruption message. Is
> there
> a way to extend the time for the program to open? Is there a way to fix
> the
> corruption other than the Compact and Repair provided (This does not
> work).
> Why would this corrupt the database? I know these are many questions & I
> apologize.
> Thanks for your help.



 
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aaron.kempf@gmail.com
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      6th Nov 2006
ROFL

man you kids are hilarious

I used Access Data Projects across a WAN.. all day long; every day.
it works like a charm.

you kids really need to get a clue




Douglas J. Steele wrote:
> Access isn't intended to be used over the WAN. Albert Kallal has a good
> discussion of this at http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal//Wan/Wans.html
>
> --
> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> (no e-mails, please!)
>
>
> "helplessinhawaii" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:765EFD91-330A-466D-9CA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have a database in the US on a server. When this database is accessed
> >from
> > a server in Gemany it will sometimes get corrupted. It appears that in
> > times
> > of high traffic, the Access program will time out and the user will show
> > Program Not Responding in their task manager. When this happens, the next
> > user from the US will get the standard Database Corruption message. Is
> > there
> > a way to extend the time for the program to open? Is there a way to fix
> > the
> > corruption other than the Compact and Repair provided (This does not
> > work).
> > Why would this corrupt the database? I know these are many questions & I
> > apologize.
> > Thanks for your help.


 
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David W. Fenton
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      6th Nov 2006
Tom Wickerath <AOS168b AT comcast DOT net> wrote in
news:C514C37D-06B5-4962-BCBC-(E-Mail Removed):

> I believe the only suitable solution, if you want to stay with the
> JET file format, is to implement Terminal Server (TS). Albert's
> article discusses TS.


Terminal Server is a very good solution for supporting users at
multiple sites supported by a WAN.

> I suppose replication would also work, but I think support for
> replication has been dropped in the new Access 2007, currently in
> beta.


It hasn't been dropped. It is still available with A2K3-format (and
earlier) MDBs. It is not implemented in the new accdb format. This
means that it's in the same situation as DAO was starting with A2K
-- still quite usable though not being further developed.

> Oh, Sharepoint is
> also a possible solution too, but one caveat is that one
> apparently has to live without referential integrity (at least at
> the engine level) with a solution that uses this technology.


Sharepoint is no replacement at all for sharing real data, either
over TS or via replication.

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David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
 
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aaron.kempf@gmail.com
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      6th Nov 2006
or of course; you could use a FREEWARE database engine called MSDE or
SQL express.. and still use the forms and reports that you've already
developed

Access Data Projects are the best product to ever be released out of
Redmond.


-Aaron



David W. Fenton wrote:
> Tom Wickerath <AOS168b AT comcast DOT net> wrote in
> news:C514C37D-06B5-4962-BCBC-(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > I believe the only suitable solution, if you want to stay with the
> > JET file format, is to implement Terminal Server (TS). Albert's
> > article discusses TS.

>
> Terminal Server is a very good solution for supporting users at
> multiple sites supported by a WAN.
>
> > I suppose replication would also work, but I think support for
> > replication has been dropped in the new Access 2007, currently in
> > beta.

>
> It hasn't been dropped. It is still available with A2K3-format (and
> earlier) MDBs. It is not implemented in the new accdb format. This
> means that it's in the same situation as DAO was starting with A2K
> -- still quite usable though not being further developed.
>
> > Oh, Sharepoint is
> > also a possible solution too, but one caveat is that one
> > apparently has to live without referential integrity (at least at
> > the engine level) with a solution that uses this technology.

>
> Sharepoint is no replacement at all for sharing real data, either
> over TS or via replication.
>
> --
> David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
> usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/


 
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