I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about www.ontrack.co.uk/dell.
I am a student and I don't really want to pay for anything that I can
do myself. Is there any way I can connect the new drive and the old
drive to the laptop at the same time and recover my data? If I use
the Recovery Console on the installation CD, will that work? I have
coursework which I need to access. I have a USB port in the back of
my laptop. Is there any software I can download? I live in the UK.
I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.

"tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
> any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about
> www.ontrack.co.uk/dell. I am a student and I don't really want to pay
> for anything that I can do myself. Is there any way I can connect
> the new drive and the old drive to the laptop at the same time and
> recover my data? If I use the Recovery Console on the installation
> CD, will that work? I have coursework which I need to access. I
> have a USB port in the back of my laptop. Is there any software I
> can download? I live in the UK.
> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
> anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.

Oh no! The hard drive won't spin? Crap! The old trick was to turn the
hard drive like 90 to 180° really fast to start it going on its own. I
don't think they will work in this case though. If it does, buying an
USB external USB case is the usual way to do this. And if the hard drive
doesn't spin, ontrack isn't going to help you at all.

--
Bill

I guess next time you will backup?

If the hd doesnt spinup theres probably nothing you can do, other than
taking the hd apart in an attempt to fix it. But since I assume its a
warranty replacement that will invalidate it, and unless you are very
carefull may totally trash it
Ontrack or similar is the best bet - no recovery no fee.
Theres allways the bank of Mum & Dad - thats what my uni daughter relied on

"tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
> any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about www.ontrack.co.uk/dell.
> I am a student and I don't really want to pay for anything that I can
> do myself. Is there any way I can connect the new drive and the old
> drive to the laptop at the same time and recover my data? If I use
> the Recovery Console on the installation CD, will that work? I have
> coursework which I need to access. I have a USB port in the back of
> my laptop. Is there any software I can download? I live in the UK.
> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
> anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.
>

On May 9, 6:16 pm, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
> I guess next time you will backup?
>
> If the hd doesnt spinup theres probably nothing you can do, other than
> taking the hd apart in an attempt to fix it. But since I assume its a
> warranty replacement that will invalidate it, and unless you are very
> carefull may totally trash it
> Ontrack or similar is the best bet - no recovery no fee.
> Theres allways the bank of Mum & Dad - thats what my uni daughter relied on
>
> "tkbirdie" <tkbirdi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
> > There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
> > any way I can do it myself? Dell told me aboutwww.ontrack.co.uk/dell.
> > I am a student and I don't really want to pay for anything that I can
> > do myself. Is there any way I can connect the new drive and the old
> > drive to the laptop at the same time and recover my data? If I use
> > the Recovery Console on the installation CD, will that work? I have
> > coursework which I need to access. I have a USB port in the back of
> > my laptop. Is there any software I can download? I live in the UK.
> > I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
> > anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I had planned a backup after I had finished my coursework. I know
that I have to backup. The thing is if I give it back to Dell on
Monday without recovering my data, they will dispose of it. So,
basically I'm stuffed, right? I'm not getting any of it back. If
there was nothing important on it, I would not be bothered; but as it
is coursework, you can see my dilemma.

If the hard drive doesn't spin up your only option is to send it to a data
recovery center. They will (hopefully) be able to remove the drive platters
and put them in another unit in order to pull data off. This is NOT
something you would do on your own--the platters run at a high rate of speed
so the drives are vacuum-sealed. Getting dust between the read heads and
the platters can make the heads crash into the platter and physically damage
the disk drive. Data recovery centers typically do this type of thing in a
"clean room" to avoid this.

Data recovery software will do no good if the drive cannot be spun up and be
accessed. :/

Joe

"tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
> any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about www.ontrack.co.uk/dell.
> I am a student and I don't really want to pay for anything that I can
> do myself. Is there any way I can connect the new drive and the old
> drive to the laptop at the same time and recover my data? If I use
> the Recovery Console on the installation CD, will that work? I have
> coursework which I need to access. I have a USB port in the back of
> my laptop. Is there any software I can download? I live in the UK.
> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
> anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.
>

BillW50 wrote:
> "tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)
>> I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
>> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is
>> there any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about
>> www.ontrack.co.uk/dell. I am a student and I don't really want to pay
>> for anything that I can do myself. Is there any way I can connect
>> the new drive and the old drive to the laptop at the same time and
>> recover my data? If I use the Recovery Console on the installation
>> CD, will that work? I have coursework which I need to access. I
>> have a USB port in the back of my laptop. Is there any software I
>> can download? I live in the UK.
>> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is
>> there anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on
>> Monday.
>
> Oh no! The hard drive won't spin? Crap! The old trick was to turn the
> hard drive like 90 to 180° really fast to start it going on its own. I
> don't think they will work in this case though. If it does, buying an
> USB external USB case is the usual way to do this. And if the hard
> drive doesn't spin, ontrack isn't going to help you at all.

Where did he say it wouldn't spin up?

Pop`

"Poprivet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> BillW50 wrote:
>> "tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)
>>> I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
>>> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is
>>> there any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about
>>> www.ontrack.co.uk/dell. I am a student and I don't really want to
>>> pay for anything that I can do myself. Is there any way I can
>>> connect the new drive and the old drive to the laptop at the same
>>> time and recover my data? If I use the Recovery Console on the
>>> installation CD, will that work? I have coursework which I need to
>>> access. I have a USB port in the back of my laptop. Is there any
>>> software I can download? I live in the UK.
>>> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> there anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on
>>> Monday.
>>
>> Oh no! The hard drive won't spin? Crap! The old trick was to turn the
>> hard drive like 90 to 180° really fast to start it going on its own.
>> I don't think they will work in this case though. If it does, buying
>> an USB external USB case is the usual way to do this. And if the hard
>> drive doesn't spin, ontrack isn't going to help you at all.
>
> Where did he say it wouldn't spin up?
>
> Pop`

There you go!

--
Bill

tkbirdie wrote:
> I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
> any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about
> www.ontrack.co.uk/dell. I am a student and I don't really want to pay
> for anything that I can do myself. Is there any way I can connect
> the new drive and the old drive to the laptop at the same time and
> recover my data? If I use the Recovery Console on the installation
> CD, will that work? I have coursework which I need to access. I
> have a USB port in the back of my laptop. Is there any software I
> can download? I live in the UK.
> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
> anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.

Ouch! I didn't see the part about it not spinning up. If that's the case,
and if it's getting power (have you checked to see that it's firmly seated
in the laptop?) then you're pretty much dead in the water unless you want to
pay a specialist to recover it, and that's pretty expensive.

Actually, since it's probably trashed anyway, you could try seeing what you
could do to get at the motor mechanism and move it manually. Sometimes a
different position is enough to get them to spin up. Try the spinning of
the case as another mentioned; it works on some occasions if the bearings
are at all allowing it to turn.

Any chance you have a friend with a desktop you could plug it into? Then
you could move/rotate it around and if it gets spun up you could copy the
data off it for as long as it'll spin.
If you disassemble the drive to get at the motor mechanics, get the data
off if it'll spin up, but the hermetic seal is broken, so do not trust the
disc for any kind of use other than as maybe a paperweight.

HTH
Pop`

BillW50 wrote:
> "tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)
>> I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
>> There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is
>> there any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about
>> www.ontrack.co.uk/dell. I am a student and I don't really want to pay
>> for anything that I can do myself. Is there any way I can connect
>> the new drive and the old drive to the laptop at the same time and
>> recover my data? If I use the Recovery Console on the installation
>> CD, will that work? I have coursework which I need to access. I
>> have a USB port in the back of my laptop. Is there any software I
>> can download? I live in the UK.
>> I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is
>> there anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on
>> Monday.
>
> Oh no! The hard drive won't spin? Crap! The old trick was to turn the
> hard drive like 90 to 180° really fast to start it going on its own. I
> don't think they will work in this case though. If it does, buying an
> USB external USB case is the usual way to do this. And if the hard
> drive doesn't spin, ontrack isn't going to help you at all.

Sorry bout that! I see the spin up comment now!

Pop`

Hard drive have a partial vacuum.
The heads run on a thin layer of air.
http://www.pctechguide.com/31HardDisk_Construction.htm
--
Ronald Sommer

"Joe Grover" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: If the hard drive doesn't spin up your only option is to send it to a data
: recovery center. They will (hopefully) be able to remove the drive
platters
: and put them in another unit in order to pull data off. This is NOT
: something you would do on your own--the platters run at a high rate of
speed
: so the drives are vacuum-sealed. Getting dust between the read heads and
: the platters can make the heads crash into the platter and physically
damage
: the disk drive. Data recovery centers typically do this type of thing in
a
: "clean room" to avoid this.
:
: Data recovery software will do no good if the drive cannot be spun up and
be
: accessed. :/
:
: Joe
:
: "tkbirdie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:(E-Mail Removed)...
: >I have a unbootable laptop hard drive. Dell sent me a replacement.
: > There is data on the unbootable hard drive I need to access. Is there
: > any way I can do it myself? Dell told me about www.ontrack.co.uk/dell.
: > I am a student and I don't really want to pay for anything that I can
: > do myself. Is there any way I can connect the new drive and the old
: > drive to the laptop at the same time and recover my data? If I use
: > the Recovery Console on the installation CD, will that work? I have
: > coursework which I need to access. I have a USB port in the back of
: > my laptop. Is there any software I can download? I live in the UK.
: > I have recently found out that the hard drive does not spin. Is there
: > anything I can do? I have to return the hard drive to Dell on Monday.
: >
: