That is odd. I just copied the link from this message into the address bar
of explorer, and it works for me. Also clicking on the link in the message
(using Outlook Express) works fine.
Can you see sourceforge at all? I've never had a problem opening
sourceForge.
http://sourceforge.net/
You can also do a search for "Dbobjecter" from the main sourceForge page.
Why not generate code? It gets the base framework of your application
written in a consistent and fully tested manner all within seconds.
Assuming you have used a particular template before, you know the code works
as you expect.
Where your skills are really needed is in determining HOW your application
should handle data access, not the details of copy pasting the same method
for all of your tables over and over. How is data access going to be
logically different between a "Customer" and an "Employee" table? The
difference is in what query strings look like, what properties the business
classes will have, the names of any stored procedures, etc... A good
generator should be able to handle these kinds of differences between
tables.
With Db Object-er you create code for data access for ONE of your tables.
Create all the classes required to do data access for one table, then turn
it into a template and generate the code for the rest of the tables using
the exact same logic as the first table. Then your expert skills are
required again to add custom business validation to the business layer for
each object. Don't worry it won't make you lose your job.
Michael Lang, MCSD
"Thomas Tomicek [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yep, Dbobjecter - so open source that the link returns 404 :-)
>
> Why ae so many people behind code generators? Things like OlyMars and
> other's are one of the most stupid ways to handle persistence that I have
> ever seen.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Thomas Tomiczek
> THONA Software & Consulting Ltd.
> (Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)
>
> "Michael Lang" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:e%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I don't know about that generator, but I noticed you are missing a good
> FREE
> > one. It is open source, so you can add features to it if you want.
> >
> > Db Object-er
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbobjecter/
> > Db Object-er is a code generation program. It generates code for an
> > application based on database contents. It also includes basic sample
> > templates for generating each tier of an application.
> >
> > It comes with templates written in C#, but it will also generate VB.NET
> code
> > given a template ending in .vb which contains VB.NET code. I've found
it
> to
> > be easier to create templates than RapTier. I have not looked into the
> > others yet.
> >
> > "Ralf Hermanns" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I am evaluation some of the different DAL-Generators on the market. I
> have
> > > looked into ORM, Objectz.NET, DeKlarit, LLBLGEN, RapTierGen, nTierGen
to
> > > name a few products I have seen.
> > >
> > > What I have just now are Microsofts "products", namely the OlyMars
> > > Generator, which seems to be of french origin. I also just found the
> "Data
> > > Application Block" offered by Microsoft. Since it seems not that big,
I
> > will
> > > evaluate myself.
> > >
> > > But this OlyMars tools looks so HUGE on the first impression, I wonder
> if
> > > someone used it before and can answer me the following two quick
> Questions
> > > before I spend much time looking into it:
> > > 1)
> > > Can it generate VB code?
> > > My first quick look suggests it only does C#. I could life with that,
or
> > > even better let it die and have VB inherit from! (<- no flame
intended,
> > > SCNR)
> > >
> > > 2)
> > > Does it create "real" objects and collections? By "real" objects I
mean
> > > objects that do not inherit from datarow, have properties for the
> columns,
> > > and have the childtables matched into collections that can be
enumerated
> > and
> > > intellisensed through.
> > > Or does it just wrap all into typed datasets and add some load/save
> > > procedures, as many others do?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ralf
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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