This is not a major issue but it is one that's
made me curious for several months.

When I examine my "Joe" user account's
Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
there's fewer programs in that folder than
appear when I check via Start > Programs.

Also checked the "Administrator" user's
Programs folder and it only contains a few
Win XP accessory programs -- and those
are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
programs folder.

I can't figure out where the extra programs
in Start > Programs are coming from. They
are all valid but arranged in folders
differently than in Joe's Programs folder.

Another mystery to me is that the
registry shows more applications than show
in my Add/Remove control panel. I
am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
those programs showing in the registry
but they're still there. I don't know how
to get rid of them. I've run several
registry utilities to "clean" the registry
but none have reported on the existence
of previously deleted applications being
in the registry.

Most start menu items are in the Documents & Settings All Users folder

"Uncle Joe" <Uncle (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is not a major issue but it is one that's
> made me curious for several months.
>
> When I examine my "Joe" user account's
> Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
> there's fewer programs in that folder than
> appear when I check via Start > Programs.
>
> Also checked the "Administrator" user's
> Programs folder and it only contains a few
> Win XP accessory programs -- and those
> are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
> programs folder.
>
> I can't figure out where the extra programs
> in Start > Programs are coming from. They
> are all valid but arranged in folders
> differently than in Joe's Programs folder.
>
> Another mystery to me is that the
> registry shows more applications than show
> in my Add/Remove control panel. I
> am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
> those programs showing in the registry
> but they're still there. I don't know how
> to get rid of them. I've run several
> registry utilities to "clean" the registry
> but none have reported on the existence
> of previously deleted applications being
> in the registry.
>
>

Turned out that I have two "All user" folders.
One is "All Users" and it had virtually nothing
in it, but "All users.Windows" had the vast
majority of programs I've installed. Thanks.

"bxb7668" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Most start menu items are in the Documents & Settings All Users
> folder
>
> "Uncle Joe" <Uncle (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> This is not a major issue but it is one that's
>> made me curious for several months.
>>
>> When I examine my "Joe" user account's
>> Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
>> there's fewer programs in that folder than
>> appear when I check via Start > Programs.
>>
>> Also checked the "Administrator" user's
>> Programs folder and it only contains a few
>> Win XP accessory programs -- and those
>> are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
>> programs folder.
>>
>> I can't figure out where the extra programs
>> in Start > Programs are coming from. They
>> are all valid but arranged in folders
>> differently than in Joe's Programs folder.
>>
>> Another mystery to me is that the
>> registry shows more applications than show
>> in my Add/Remove control panel. I
>> am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
>> those programs showing in the registry
>> but they're still there. I don't know how
>> to get rid of them. I've run several
>> registry utilities to "clean" the registry
>> but none have reported on the existence
>> of previously deleted applications being
>> in the registry.
>>
>>
>
>

"Uncle Joe" wrote:

> This is not a major issue but it is one that's
> made me curious for several months.
>
> When I examine my "Joe" user account's
> Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
> there's fewer programs in that folder than
> appear when I check via Start > Programs.
>
> Also checked the "Administrator" user's
> Programs folder and it only contains a few
> Win XP accessory programs -- and those
> are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
> programs folder.
>
> I can't figure out where the extra programs
> in Start > Programs are coming from. They
> are all valid but arranged in folders
> differently than in Joe's Programs folder.
>
> Another mystery to me is that the
> registry shows more applications than show
> in my Add/Remove control panel. I
> am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
> those programs showing in the registry
> but they're still there. I don't know how
> to get rid of them. I've run several
> registry utilities to "clean" the registry
> but none have reported on the existence
> of previously deleted applications being
> in the registry.


You will only see programs listed in the Add/Remove Programs section if they
are 100% compliant with MS Windows. There are also many Dos and Windows
based programs which don't modify the Registry.

So, just because a program has been installed on your system doesn't mean it
will appear in the System Registry or in the Add/Remove Programs section.

Cordially,
Wayne H. Wilhelm
Personal Web: http://www.quadracalc.com

Thanks, Wayne, for the informative post.
Right now, I'm more concerned about
what to do about all the old programs
that were previously deleted. Suppose
I should just let sleeping dogs lie, but
it concerns me that registry entries
for about 20 deleted programs remain
in the registry. Most were trials that
were deleted over a year ago. Guess
those app's uninstall code was faulty.

"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:E00AA331-7E9C-4CDB-849A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>
>> This is not a major issue but it is one that's
>> made me curious for several months.
>>
>> When I examine my "Joe" user account's
>> Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
>> there's fewer programs in that folder than
>> appear when I check via Start > Programs.
>>
>> Also checked the "Administrator" user's
>> Programs folder and it only contains a few
>> Win XP accessory programs -- and those
>> are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
>> programs folder.
>>
>> I can't figure out where the extra programs
>> in Start > Programs are coming from. They
>> are all valid but arranged in folders
>> differently than in Joe's Programs folder.
>>
>> Another mystery to me is that the
>> registry shows more applications than show
>> in my Add/Remove control panel. I
>> am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
>> those programs showing in the registry
>> but they're still there. I don't know how
>> to get rid of them. I've run several
>> registry utilities to "clean" the registry
>> but none have reported on the existence
>> of previously deleted applications being
>> in the registry.
>
>
> You will only see programs listed in the Add/Remove Programs section
> if they
> are 100% compliant with MS Windows. There are also many Dos and
> Windows
> based programs which don't modify the Registry.
>
> So, just because a program has been installed on your system doesn't
> mean it
> will appear in the System Registry or in the Add/Remove Programs
> section.
>
> Cordially,
> Wayne H. Wilhelm
> Personal Web: http://www.quadracalc.com
>
>

Try running 'RegSupreme' & see if that helps. It's quite safe as it creates
a Restore for everything deleted.
http://www.macecraft.com/

--

johnf

> Thanks, Wayne, for the informative post.
> Right now, I'm more concerned about
> what to do about all the old programs
> that were previously deleted. Suppose
> I should just let sleeping dogs lie, but
> it concerns me that registry entries
> for about 20 deleted programs remain
> in the registry. Most were trials that
> were deleted over a year ago. Guess
> those app's uninstall code was faulty.
>
> "Wayne H. Wilhelm" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:E00AA331-7E9C-4CDB-849A-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>>
>>> This is not a major issue but it is one that's
>>> made me curious for several months.
>>>
>>> When I examine my "Joe" user account's
>>> Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
>>> there's fewer programs in that folder than
>>> appear when I check via Start > Programs.
>>>
>>> Also checked the "Administrator" user's
>>> Programs folder and it only contains a few
>>> Win XP accessory programs -- and those
>>> are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
>>> programs folder.
>>>
>>> I can't figure out where the extra programs
>>> in Start > Programs are coming from. They
>>> are all valid but arranged in folders
>>> differently than in Joe's Programs folder.
>>>
>>> Another mystery to me is that the
>>> registry shows more applications than show
>>> in my Add/Remove control panel. I
>>> am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
>>> those programs showing in the registry
>>> but they're still there. I don't know how
>>> to get rid of them. I've run several
>>> registry utilities to "clean" the registry
>>> but none have reported on the existence
>>> of previously deleted applications being
>>> in the registry.
>>
>>
>> You will only see programs listed in the Add/Remove Programs section
>> if they
>> are 100% compliant with MS Windows. There are also many Dos and
>> Windows
>> based programs which don't modify the Registry.
>>
>> So, just because a program has been installed on your system doesn't
>> mean it
>> will appear in the System Registry or in the Add/Remove Programs
>> section.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Wayne H. Wilhelm
>> Personal Web: http://www.quadracalc.com

Or the old version by JV which is 1.3, IIRC.......I will have a peek.
OK..jv16 PowerTools, version 1.3.0.195. It too makes backups and was his
free version before he sold it to Macecraft. Try Googling for it. It may
be on www.oldversion.com as well.

Btw, BJ......can I use the old Microsoft RegClean 4.1 on XP?? I have it on
here, but had this gut hunch that I shouldn't use it.

Cheers, Figgs (who is still looking for an email from Oz, grin)

"johnf" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Try running 'RegSupreme' & see if that helps. It's quite safe as it
> creates a Restore for everything deleted.
> http://www.macecraft.com/
>
> --
>
> johnf
>
>> Thanks, Wayne, for the informative post.
>> Right now, I'm more concerned about
>> what to do about all the old programs
>> that were previously deleted. Suppose
>> I should just let sleeping dogs lie, but
>> it concerns me that registry entries
>> for about 20 deleted programs remain
>> in the registry. Most were trials that
>> were deleted over a year ago. Guess
>> those app's uninstall code was faulty.
>>
>> "Wayne H. Wilhelm" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message news:E00AA331-7E9C-4CDB-849A-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "Uncle Joe" wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is not a major issue but it is one that's
>>>> made me curious for several months.
>>>>
>>>> When I examine my "Joe" user account's
>>>> Document & Setting's "Programs" folder,
>>>> there's fewer programs in that folder than
>>>> appear when I check via Start > Programs.
>>>>
>>>> Also checked the "Administrator" user's
>>>> Programs folder and it only contains a few
>>>> Win XP accessory programs -- and those
>>>> are duplicated in my "Joe" account's
>>>> programs folder.
>>>>
>>>> I can't figure out where the extra programs
>>>> in Start > Programs are coming from. They
>>>> are all valid but arranged in folders
>>>> differently than in Joe's Programs folder.
>>>>
>>>> Another mystery to me is that the
>>>> registry shows more applications than show
>>>> in my Add/Remove control panel. I
>>>> am almost certain that I deleted 99% of
>>>> those programs showing in the registry
>>>> but they're still there. I don't know how
>>>> to get rid of them. I've run several
>>>> registry utilities to "clean" the registry
>>>> but none have reported on the existence
>>>> of previously deleted applications being
>>>> in the registry.
>>>
>>>
>>> You will only see programs listed in the Add/Remove Programs section
>>> if they
>>> are 100% compliant with MS Windows. There are also many Dos and
>>> Windows
>>> based programs which don't modify the Registry.
>>>
>>> So, just because a program has been installed on your system doesn't
>>> mean it
>>> will appear in the System Registry or in the Add/Remove Programs
>>> section.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Wayne H. Wilhelm
>>> Personal Web: http://www.quadracalc.com
>
>