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Cummulative Update for IE 6.0 won't update (KB832894)

 
 
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      9th May 2007
I've had this problem before with our W2000 machine.

W2000 updates come down but won't update and cycle forrrreeeevvvveeerr in a
loop.

Is there a common fix for this under W2000 and XP? Or, are they different
fixes?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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      10th May 2007
X-post to Win2K General newsgroup from WinXP General.

First off, 832894 (Apr-04) has been superseded by 931768 (May-07):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768. IOW, you don't /need/ 832894 if a
later Cumulative Update for IE is already installed.

To address the "hanging", try the following, courtesy of MVP Emeritus Ottmar
Freudenberger:

First, install this fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891

Now install the newly released 'standalone' version of Windows Update Agent
3.0, v.
7.0.6000.374, for 32 bit machines (*not* Vista or any x64 version of
Windows!):
http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7...gent30-x86.exe

The MS update team believes that this solves all three svchost problems that
folks have been experiencing. See
http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archiv...update-on.aspx

Also see
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blog...showentry=1071
(First try the steps posted May 4th at the beginning of the article.)

Workaround: Change the default from Microsoft Update to Windows Update: Go
to Microsoft Update > Click on Change Settings in left pane > Scroll to
bottom of page > To Stop Using Microsoft Update > Disable Microsoft Update
software and let me use Windows Update only (check). cf.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901037

With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check in at Office
Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

Canonman wrote:
> I've had this problem before with our W2000 machine.
>
> W2000 updates come down but won't update and cycle forrrreeeevvvveeerr in
> a
> loop.
>
> Is there a common fix for this under W2000 and XP? Or, are they different
> fixes?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.


 
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      11th May 2007
Hello PA Bear and thank you very much for your reply.

See, The thing is this patch KB832894 has come out of the blue somewhere,
some how.

It appears in the update history as having updated 'successfully' 4 times on
May 10th.

KB931768 has already been applied on May 8th.

This old patch 'appears' as ready to update at 'zero' bytes each time I
access the MS Update site, and while I can delete it from the WINNT
SoftwareDistribution directory, it keeps coming back from 'somewhere' even
without communicating with the MS Update web page.

I have two machines that are acting up in this way. Neither one hangs as you
have alluded to.

Can I guess that the reason that KB832894 doesn't apply during the update is
because the software is smart enough to know that this would effectively be a
rollback and prevents it from completing?

If that is true, the software is also reporting a false positive because it
continues to report that the KB832894 update applied successfully (4 times no
less!)

I can try to follow the steps as outlined (much appreciated) but it seems to
me that something on the MS site is out of sync, and I have no idea why.
Alternatively, I can ignore the update by flipping on the 'ignore' bit in the
customer update dialogue box.

Canonman

"PA Bear" wrote:

> X-post to Win2K General newsgroup from WinXP General.
>
> First off, 832894 (Apr-04) has been superseded by 931768 (May-07):
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768. IOW, you don't /need/ 832894 if a
> later Cumulative Update for IE is already installed.
>
> To address the "hanging", try the following, courtesy of MVP Emeritus Ottmar
> Freudenberger:
>
> First, install this fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891
>
> Now install the newly released 'standalone' version of Windows Update Agent
> 3.0, v.
> 7.0.6000.374, for 32 bit machines (*not* Vista or any x64 version of
> Windows!):
> http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7...gent30-x86.exe
>
> The MS update team believes that this solves all three svchost problems that
> folks have been experiencing. See
> http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archiv...update-on.aspx
>
> Also see
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blog...showentry=1071
> (First try the steps posted May 4th at the beginning of the article.)
>
> Workaround: Change the default from Microsoft Update to Windows Update: Go
> to Microsoft Update > Click on Change Settings in left pane > Scroll to
> bottom of page > To Stop Using Microsoft Update > Disable Microsoft Update
> software and let me use Windows Update only (check). cf.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901037
>
> With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check in at Office
> Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
> Canonman wrote:
> > I've had this problem before with our W2000 machine.
> >
> > W2000 updates come down but won't update and cycle forrrreeeevvvveeerr in
> > a
> > loop.
> >
> > Is there a common fix for this under W2000 and XP? Or, are they different
> > fixes?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.

>
>

 
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      11th May 2007
Meant to say Custom update dialogue box.

"Canonman" wrote:

> Hello PA Bear and thank you very much for your reply.
>
> See, The thing is this patch KB832894 has come out of the blue somewhere,
> some how.
>
> It appears in the update history as having updated 'successfully' 4 times on
> May 10th.
>
> KB931768 has already been applied on May 8th.
>
> This old patch 'appears' as ready to update at 'zero' bytes each time I
> access the MS Update site, and while I can delete it from the WINNT
> SoftwareDistribution directory, it keeps coming back from 'somewhere' even
> without communicating with the MS Update web page.
>
> I have two machines that are acting up in this way. Neither one hangs as you
> have alluded to.
>
> Can I guess that the reason that KB832894 doesn't apply during the update is
> because the software is smart enough to know that this would effectively be a
> rollback and prevents it from completing?
>
> If that is true, the software is also reporting a false positive because it
> continues to report that the KB832894 update applied successfully (4 times no
> less!)
>
> I can try to follow the steps as outlined (much appreciated) but it seems to
> me that something on the MS site is out of sync, and I have no idea why.
> Alternatively, I can ignore the update by flipping on the 'ignore' bit in the
> customer update dialogue box.
>
> Canonman
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
> > X-post to Win2K General newsgroup from WinXP General.
> >
> > First off, 832894 (Apr-04) has been superseded by 931768 (May-07):
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768. IOW, you don't /need/ 832894 if a
> > later Cumulative Update for IE is already installed.
> >
> > To address the "hanging", try the following, courtesy of MVP Emeritus Ottmar
> > Freudenberger:
> >
> > First, install this fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891
> >
> > Now install the newly released 'standalone' version of Windows Update Agent
> > 3.0, v.
> > 7.0.6000.374, for 32 bit machines (*not* Vista or any x64 version of
> > Windows!):
> > http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7...gent30-x86.exe
> >
> > The MS update team believes that this solves all three svchost problems that
> > folks have been experiencing. See
> > http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archiv...update-on.aspx
> >
> > Also see
> > http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blog...showentry=1071
> > (First try the steps posted May 4th at the beginning of the article.)
> >
> > Workaround: Change the default from Microsoft Update to Windows Update: Go
> > to Microsoft Update > Click on Change Settings in left pane > Scroll to
> > bottom of page > To Stop Using Microsoft Update > Disable Microsoft Update
> > software and let me use Windows Update only (check). cf.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901037
> >
> > With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check in at Office
> > Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> > AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >
> > Canonman wrote:
> > > I've had this problem before with our W2000 machine.
> > >
> > > W2000 updates come down but won't update and cycle forrrreeeevvvveeerr in
> > > a
> > > loop.
> > >
> > > Is there a common fix for this under W2000 and XP? Or, are they different
> > > fixes?
> > >
> > > Any help would be appreciated.

> >
> >

 
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      11th May 2007
[Why have you crossposted to WinXP newsgroup?]

Word is that MS have fixed/adjusted the problem on their end and you should
no longer be offered 832894 or any other older update (that you probably
already had installed).

If the problem persists, please reply to this thread, elminating the
crosspost to WinXP General, please.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Canonman wrote:
> Hello PA Bear and thank you very much for your reply.
>
> See, The thing is this patch KB832894 has come out of the blue somewhere,
> some how.
>
> It appears in the update history as having updated 'successfully' 4 times
> on
> May 10th.
>
> KB931768 has already been applied on May 8th.
>
> This old patch 'appears' as ready to update at 'zero' bytes each time I
> access the MS Update site, and while I can delete it from the WINNT
> SoftwareDistribution directory, it keeps coming back from 'somewhere' even
> without communicating with the MS Update web page.
>
> I have two machines that are acting up in this way. Neither one hangs as
> you
> have alluded to.
>
> Can I guess that the reason that KB832894 doesn't apply during the update
> is
> because the software is smart enough to know that this would effectively
> be
> a rollback and prevents it from completing?
>
> If that is true, the software is also reporting a false positive because
> it
> continues to report that the KB832894 update applied successfully (4 times
> no less!)
>
> I can try to follow the steps as outlined (much appreciated) but it seems
> to
> me that something on the MS site is out of sync, and I have no idea why.
> Alternatively, I can ignore the update by flipping on the 'ignore' bit in
> the customer update dialogue box.
>
> Canonman
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> X-post to Win2K General newsgroup from WinXP General.
>>
>> First off, 832894 (Apr-04) has been superseded by 931768 (May-07):
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768. IOW, you don't /need/ 832894 if
>> a
>> later Cumulative Update for IE is already installed.
>>
>> To address the "hanging", try the following, courtesy of MVP Emeritus
>> Ottmar Freudenberger:
>>
>> First, install this fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891
>>
>> Now install the newly released 'standalone' version of Windows Update
>> Agent
>> 3.0, v.
>> 7.0.6000.374, for 32 bit machines (*not* Vista or any x64 version of
>> Windows!):
>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7...gent30-x86.exe
>>
>> The MS update team believes that this solves all three svchost problems
>> that folks have been experiencing. See
>> http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archiv...update-on.aspx
>>
>> Also see
>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blog...showentry=1071
>> (First try the steps posted May 4th at the beginning of the article.)
>>
>> Workaround: Change the default from Microsoft Update to Windows Update:
>> Go
>> to Microsoft Update > Click on Change Settings in left pane > Scroll to
>> bottom of page > To Stop Using Microsoft Update > Disable Microsoft
>> Update
>> software and let me use Windows Update only (check). cf.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901037
>>
>> With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check in at Office
>> Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>
>> Canonman wrote:
>>> I've had this problem before with our W2000 machine.
>>>
>>> W2000 updates come down but won't update and cycle forrrreeeevvvveeerr
>>> in
>>> a
>>> loop.
>>>
>>> Is there a common fix for this under W2000 and XP? Or, are they
>>> different
>>> fixes?
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.


 
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      12th May 2007
PA Bear,

Thank you again for your reply.

I originally posted under XP, because: we run XP at home, I have used this
forum several times for like issues and I couldn't find the Windows 2000
group for some reason.

I don't know how to un-cross-reference this post. I thought perhaps you had
placed it in the Windows 2000 group, but more likely the moderator has done
so, and therefore we will have to rely on his/her kindness and ability to
comply with your request.

Have a great day.

"PA Bear" wrote:

> [Why have you crossposted to WinXP newsgroup?]
>
> Word is that MS have fixed/adjusted the problem on their end and you should
> no longer be offered 832894 or any other older update (that you probably
> already had installed).
>
> If the problem persists, please reply to this thread, elminating the
> crosspost to WinXP General, please.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
>
> Canonman wrote:
> > Hello PA Bear and thank you very much for your reply.
> >
> > See, The thing is this patch KB832894 has come out of the blue somewhere,
> > some how.
> >
> > It appears in the update history as having updated 'successfully' 4 times
> > on
> > May 10th.
> >
> > KB931768 has already been applied on May 8th.
> >
> > This old patch 'appears' as ready to update at 'zero' bytes each time I
> > access the MS Update site, and while I can delete it from the WINNT
> > SoftwareDistribution directory, it keeps coming back from 'somewhere' even
> > without communicating with the MS Update web page.
> >
> > I have two machines that are acting up in this way. Neither one hangs as
> > you
> > have alluded to.
> >
> > Can I guess that the reason that KB832894 doesn't apply during the update
> > is
> > because the software is smart enough to know that this would effectively
> > be
> > a rollback and prevents it from completing?
> >
> > If that is true, the software is also reporting a false positive because
> > it
> > continues to report that the KB832894 update applied successfully (4 times
> > no less!)
> >
> > I can try to follow the steps as outlined (much appreciated) but it seems
> > to
> > me that something on the MS site is out of sync, and I have no idea why.
> > Alternatively, I can ignore the update by flipping on the 'ignore' bit in
> > the customer update dialogue box.
> >
> > Canonman
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> X-post to Win2K General newsgroup from WinXP General.
> >>
> >> First off, 832894 (Apr-04) has been superseded by 931768 (May-07):
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768. IOW, you don't /need/ 832894 if
> >> a
> >> later Cumulative Update for IE is already installed.
> >>
> >> To address the "hanging", try the following, courtesy of MVP Emeritus
> >> Ottmar Freudenberger:
> >>
> >> First, install this fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891
> >>
> >> Now install the newly released 'standalone' version of Windows Update
> >> Agent
> >> 3.0, v.
> >> 7.0.6000.374, for 32 bit machines (*not* Vista or any x64 version of
> >> Windows!):
> >> http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7...gent30-x86.exe
> >>
> >> The MS update team believes that this solves all three svchost problems
> >> that folks have been experiencing. See
> >> http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archiv...update-on.aspx
> >>
> >> Also see
> >> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blog...showentry=1071
> >> (First try the steps posted May 4th at the beginning of the article.)
> >>
> >> Workaround: Change the default from Microsoft Update to Windows Update:
> >> Go
> >> to Microsoft Update > Click on Change Settings in left pane > Scroll to
> >> bottom of page > To Stop Using Microsoft Update > Disable Microsoft
> >> Update
> >> software and let me use Windows Update only (check). cf.
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901037
> >>
> >> With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check in at Office
> >> Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >>
> >> Canonman wrote:
> >>> I've had this problem before with our W2000 machine.
> >>>
> >>> W2000 updates come down but won't update and cycle forrrreeeevvvveeerr
> >>> in
> >>> a
> >>> loop.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a common fix for this under W2000 and XP? Or, are they
> >>> different
> >>> fixes?
> >>>
> >>> Any help would be appreciated.

>
>

 
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