I am just starting to get into CSS layout and can't figure
out how to make it fail correctly. The templates I've
seen show clean, default-formatted text in the FP Normal
view, which is what I presume a non-CSS browser would show.
My page, on the other hand, shows a major mess in the
Normal view that is trying to follow the styles.
What am I missing? The page looks great in FP Preview, IE6
& NN7 and the CSS validates through W3C. FP 2000.

FP2000 has some issues with CSS in normal view. I would recommend that
you upgrade to FP2003.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
Posted At: 29. juli 2004 20:37
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: CSS layout degrading
Subject: CSS layout degrading


I am just starting to get into CSS layout and can't figure out how to
make it fail correctly. The templates I've seen show clean,
default-formatted text in the FP Normal view, which is what I presume a
non-CSS browser would show.
My page, on the other hand, shows a major mess in the Normal view that
is trying to follow the styles.
What am I missing? The page looks great in FP Preview, IE6 & NN7 and the
CSS validates through W3C. FP 2000.

I'm actually going to get Go Live (whether I like it or
not).

I always post messages to these forums and then figure out
the answer 30 seconds later.

The fix, for FP at least, is to bring the styles in with
this type of statement.

< style type="text/css"
media="screen">@import "css/fonts.css";</style>

As opposed to this:

< link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"
href="css/fonts.css">

I guess it's the media="screen"


>-----Original Message-----
>FP2000 has some issues with CSS in normal view. I would
recommend that
>you upgrade to FP2003.
>
>Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nicholas
[private.php?do=newpm&u=]
>Posted At: 29. juli 2004 20:37
>Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
>Conversation: CSS layout degrading
>Subject: CSS layout degrading
>
>
>I am just starting to get into CSS layout and can't
figure out how to
>make it fail correctly. The templates I've seen show
clean,
>default-formatted text in the FP Normal view, which is
what I presume a
>non-CSS browser would show.
>My page, on the other hand, shows a major mess in the
Normal view that
>is trying to follow the styles.
>What am I missing? The page looks great in FP Preview,
IE6 & NN7 and the
>CSS validates through W3C. FP 2000.
>
>.
>

It's not the media type, it's the @import that older browsers don't support
- see http://www.eskimo.com/~bloo/indexdot...es/atrules.htm
and
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/topics/media.htm

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"Nicholas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:6ca701c475b3$e81e4470$(E-Mail Removed)...
| I'm actually going to get Go Live (whether I like it or
| not).
|
| I always post messages to these forums and then figure out
| the answer 30 seconds later.
|
| The fix, for FP at least, is to bring the styles in with
| this type of statement.
|
| < style type="text/css"
| media="screen">@import "css/fonts.css";</style>
|
| As opposed to this:
|
| < link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"
| href="css/fonts.css">
|
| I guess it's the media="screen"
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >FP2000 has some issues with CSS in normal view. I would
| recommend that
| >you upgrade to FP2003.
| >
| >Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
| >
| >-----Original Message-----
| >From: Nicholas
| [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
| >Posted At: 29. juli 2004 20:37
| >Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
| >Conversation: CSS layout degrading
| >Subject: CSS layout degrading
| >
| >
| >I am just starting to get into CSS layout and can't
| figure out how to
| >make it fail correctly. The templates I've seen show
| clean,
| >default-formatted text in the FP Normal view, which is
| what I presume a
| >non-CSS browser would show.
| >My page, on the other hand, shows a major mess in the
| Normal view that
| >is trying to follow the styles.
| >What am I missing? The page looks great in FP Preview,
| IE6 & NN7 and the
| >CSS validates through W3C. FP 2000.
| >
| >.
| >

I've done it where you use the @media to hide the .css from old browsers.
the idea is you put a line of text at the bottom of every page like "you're
seeing an unformatted version of this page because the .css file failed to
load due to technical difficulties, or you're using a very old browser" then
make the text a span like .warning {display:none;} on the style sheet. so
if the .css loads no warning, if it doesn't, warning visible.

HTH

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"Nicholas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6ca701c475b3$e81e4470$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm actually going to get Go Live (whether I like it or
> not).
>
> I always post messages to these forums and then figure out
> the answer 30 seconds later.
>
> The fix, for FP at least, is to bring the styles in with
> this type of statement.
>
> < style type="text/css"
> media="screen">@import "css/fonts.css";</style>
>
> As opposed to this:
>
> < link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"
> href="css/fonts.css">
>
> I guess it's the media="screen"
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >FP2000 has some issues with CSS in normal view. I would
> recommend that
> >you upgrade to FP2003.
> >
> >Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nicholas
> [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> >Posted At: 29. juli 2004 20:37
> >Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
> >Conversation: CSS layout degrading
> >Subject: CSS layout degrading
> >
> >
> >I am just starting to get into CSS layout and can't
> figure out how to
> >make it fail correctly. The templates I've seen show
> clean,
> >default-formatted text in the FP Normal view, which is
> what I presume a
> >non-CSS browser would show.
> >My page, on the other hand, shows a major mess in the
> Normal view that
> >is trying to follow the styles.
> >What am I missing? The page looks great in FP Preview,
> IE6 & NN7 and the
> >CSS validates through W3C. FP 2000.
> >
> >.
> >