Hello,

i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much attention,
it's not my intention to spam or anything.

i changed my ip a few times and then released it
i disconnected the internet cable
i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
(rebooted when nessecairy)

when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
- immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
- after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:

Messenger-Service
Message from MICROSOFT to USER
Critical Error
The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application from:
www.fixed-pc.com
To fix your system immediatly

<<a few seconds later>>

Messenger-Service
Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.

<< every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
no other hd's are connected
i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected

now there's no point updating winxp or msi
installing NIS & updating also makes no difference

At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled so
much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains numbers
only.
The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff instead
of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment i do
not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance should be
free of charge.
Luckely there a free forums like this.
I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.

thnx in advance
omi

I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections

These are known as Messenger service SPAM.

Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
Messenger service.

[[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam and
other potential threats.

The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However, some
advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
virus.]]
Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx

[[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
[[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks inbound
NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
[[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904

Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp

Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904

How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089

Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm

[[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows® Messenger
from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to prevent a long
delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed or
disabled.]]
Remove Windows Messenger
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
> Hello,
>
> i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much attention,
> it's not my intention to spam or anything.
>
> i changed my ip a few times and then released it
> i disconnected the internet cable
> i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
> installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
> installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
> (rebooted when nessecairy)
>
> when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
> - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
> - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
>
> Messenger-Service
> Message from MICROSOFT to USER
> Critical Error
> The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
> computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application
> from: www.fixed-pc.com
> To fix your system immediatly
>
> <<a few seconds later>>
>
> Messenger-Service
> Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
> Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
> Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
> www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
>
> << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
> i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
> i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
> no other hd's are connected
> i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
> those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
>
> now there's no point updating winxp or msi
> installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
>
> At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled so
> much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains
> numbers only.
> The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff instead

> of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment i
> do not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance
> should be free of charge.
> Luckely there a free forums like this.
> I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
>
> thnx in advance
> omi
>
> I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections

thnx for those links,

I assume i have to remove/disable messenger before connecting to the internet?
in that case i have to format & reinstall again, MS-key office closes in a
few hours, so i'll do this first thing tomorrow morning.

I downloaded the VBScript to remove messenger but i got following error:
>> Advanced INF Install
>> Error while undoing registration of OCX 16422

I tried START-RUN
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\inf\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
>> Same error

Maybe this won't occur if i perform those actions after a fresh install
without connecting to the net... i will see tomorrow

i was able to perform the action described at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
i also was able to change the registry to prevent messenger from running

hopefully i can post a good news thread tomorrow
thumbs up
omi

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
>
> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
> Messenger service.
>
> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam and
> other potential threats.
>
> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However, some
> advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
> virus.]]
> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
>
> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks inbound
> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>
> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
>
> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>
> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
>
> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
>
> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows® Messenger
> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to prevent a long
> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed or
> disabled.]]
> Remove Windows Messenger
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much attention,
> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
> >
> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
> > i disconnected the internet cable
> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
> >
> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
> >
> > Messenger-Service
> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
> > Critical Error
> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application
> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
> > To fix your system immediatly
> >
> > <<a few seconds later>>
> >
> > Messenger-Service
> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
> >
> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
> > no other hd's are connected
> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
> >
> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
> >
> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled so
> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains
> > numbers only.
> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff instead
>
> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment i
> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance
> > should be free of charge.
> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
> >
> > thnx in advance
> > omi
> >
> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
>
>

question, u say:
>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will help

omi

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
>
> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
> Messenger service.
>
> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam and
> other potential threats.
>
> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However, some
> advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
> virus.]]
> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
>
> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks inbound
> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>
> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
>
> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>
> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
>
> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
>
> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows® Messenger
> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to prevent a long
> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed or
> disabled.]]
> Remove Windows Messenger
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much attention,
> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
> >
> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
> > i disconnected the internet cable
> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
> >
> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
> >
> > Messenger-Service
> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
> > Critical Error
> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application
> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
> > To fix your system immediatly
> >
> > <<a few seconds later>>
> >
> > Messenger-Service
> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
> >
> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
> > no other hd's are connected
> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
> >
> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
> >
> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled so
> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains
> > numbers only.
> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff instead
>
> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment i
> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance
> > should be free of charge.
> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
> >
> > thnx in advance
> > omi
> >
> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
>
>

Omi

You do not have to update before turning on the Windows XP firewall.. either
go to Control Panel and look for the Windows Firewall icon there, or click
on START - Settings - Network Connections, locate your ISP connection icon,
right click and select Properties, click on the Advanced tab and check the
box to activate the firewall..

The Windows Messaging Service is NOT the same as Windows Messenger, so you
do not have to remove Windows Messenger..

Re. NIS.. any protection is better than none at all.. you should ALWAYS
install whatever security program you have in your possession BEFORE
connecting to the internet.. personally, I think that you would be better
off without NIS.. better to install Zonealarm free firewall, and AVG or
Avast free anti-virus if funds are tight for you..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:EB348B4A-8D89-434D-8E3E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> question, u say:
>>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
> How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
> There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
> I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
> i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will help
>
> omi
>
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>
>> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
>>
>> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
>> Messenger service.
>>
>> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
>> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
>> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
>> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam
>> and
>> other potential threats.
>>
>> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
>> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However,
>> some
>> advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
>> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
>> virus.]]
>> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
>>
>> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
>> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks
>> inbound
>> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
>> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
>> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>>
>> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
>>
>> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>>
>> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based
>> computer
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
>>
>> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
>>
>> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows® Messenger
>> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to prevent a
>> long
>> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed or
>> disabled.]]
>> Remove Windows Messenger
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
>> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much
>> > attention,
>> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
>> >
>> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
>> > i disconnected the internet cable
>> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
>> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
>> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
>> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
>> >
>> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
>> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
>> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
>> >
>> > Messenger-Service
>> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
>> > Critical Error
>> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
>> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application
>> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
>> > To fix your system immediatly
>> >
>> > <<a few seconds later>>
>> >
>> > Messenger-Service
>> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
>> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
>> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
>> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
>> >
>> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
>> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
>> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
>> > no other hd's are connected
>> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
>> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
>> >
>> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
>> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
>> >
>> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled
>> > so
>> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains
>> > numbers only.
>> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff
>> > instead
>>
>> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment
>> > i
>> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance
>> > should be free of charge.
>> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
>> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
>> >
>> > thnx in advance
>> > omi
>> >
>> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
>>
>>

Again it didn't went as it should
leaking mb's again
ZoneAlarm is stopping those MSN popups
and blockes a lot of attempts
tracking down the ip's shows 90% is coming from china

i give up, next time i reinstall i'll be having a NAT router
MS should include one when buying a winxp cd-rom that's what i think
or at least advise customers that their software is full of holes, like
Swiss cheese

thnx to everyone who invested their time and effort to try and help me
cheers
omi


"omi" wrote:

> thnx,
>
> i thought the win-firewall was only in SP2
> this might solve a lot
> about messenger, i'm so spooked right now that i prefer to completely delete
> this program from my system at next install, i'll find other ways to chat
> with my friends, plenty of options. I just hope that messenger won't be
> reinstalled when i install SP2 or something, but for safety i'll make the
> adjustments to prevent messenger from running also.
>
> I hear almost nothing but critism about NIS, i guess it became the victim of
> it's own popularity eh, a cooperation that big looks like the ultimate target
> for hackers, like infiltrating into the fbi's office or something.
>
> Thnx for the ZoneAlarm tip !!
> I had it on my 1st pc a few years ago but have forgotten the excistance
> It'll be installed at next installation.
> I'm testing it now and the Messenger pop-ups are being blocked by it
> it's a start
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
> > Omi
> >
> > You do not have to update before turning on the Windows XP firewall.. either
> > go to Control Panel and look for the Windows Firewall icon there, or click
> > on START - Settings - Network Connections, locate your ISP connection icon,
> > right click and select Properties, click on the Advanced tab and check the
> > box to activate the firewall..
> >
> > The Windows Messaging Service is NOT the same as Windows Messenger, so you
> > do not have to remove Windows Messenger..
> >
> > Re. NIS.. any protection is better than none at all.. you should ALWAYS
> > install whatever security program you have in your possession BEFORE
> > connecting to the internet.. personally, I think that you would be better
> > off without NIS.. better to install Zonealarm free firewall, and AVG or
> > Avast free anti-virus if funds are tight for you..
> >
> > --
> > Mike Hall
> > MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >
> >
> > "omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:EB348B4A-8D89-434D-8E3E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > question, u say:
> > >>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
> > > How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
> > > There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
> > > I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
> > > i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will help
> > >
> > > omi
> > >
> > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> > >
> > >> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
> > >>
> > >> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
> > >> Messenger service.
> > >>
> > >> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
> > >> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
> > >> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
> > >> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam
> > >> and
> > >> other potential threats.
> > >>
> > >> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
> > >> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However,
> > >> some
> > >> advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
> > >> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
> > >> virus.]]
> > >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
> > >>
> > >> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
> > >> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks
> > >> inbound
> > >> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
> > >> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
> > >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
> > >>
> > >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
> > >>
> > >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
> > >>
> > >> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based
> > >> computer
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
> > >>
> > >> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
> > >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
> > >>
> > >> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows® Messenger
> > >> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to prevent a
> > >> long
> > >> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed or
> > >> disabled.]]
> > >> Remove Windows Messenger
> > >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> > >>
> > >> Wes
> > >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> > >>
> > >> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
> > >> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much
> > >> > attention,
> > >> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
> > >> >
> > >> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
> > >> > i disconnected the internet cable
> > >> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
> > >> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
> > >> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
> > >> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
> > >> >
> > >> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
> > >> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
> > >> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
> > >> >
> > >> > Messenger-Service
> > >> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
> > >> > Critical Error
> > >> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
> > >> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application
> > >> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
> > >> > To fix your system immediatly
> > >> >
> > >> > <<a few seconds later>>
> > >> >
> > >> > Messenger-Service
> > >> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
> > >> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
> > >> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
> > >> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
> > >> >
> > >> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
> > >> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
> > >> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
> > >> > no other hd's are connected
> > >> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
> > >> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
> > >> >
> > >> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
> > >> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
> > >> >
> > >> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled
> > >> > so
> > >> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains
> > >> > numbers only.
> > >> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff
> > >> > instead
> > >>
> > >> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment
> > >> > i
> > >> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance
> > >> > should be free of charge.
> > >> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
> > >> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
> > >> >
> > >> > thnx in advance
> > >> > omi
> > >> >
> > >> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

In news:2BCCC2C0-85DD-43E0-B9F0-(E-Mail Removed),
omi <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> Again it didn't went as it should
> leaking mb's again
> ZoneAlarm is stopping those MSN popups
> and blockes a lot of attempts
> tracking down the ip's shows 90% is coming from china
>
> i give up, next time i reinstall i'll be having a NAT router
> MS should include one when buying a winxp cd-rom that's what i think
> or at least advise customers that their software is full of holes,
> like Swiss cheese
>
> thnx to everyone who invested their time and effort to try and help me
> cheers
> omi

How would anyone provide a NAT *router* on a CD? That's hardware.

You *have* a firewall. In fact, when you set up Windows XP with SP2
slipstreamed, the firewall is on by default. Do not connect your computer to
the Internet without a firewall....a separate NAT/firewall appliance is a
good thing to have as well, but if you aren't going to get one, do not
connect your computer before enabling your firewall. MS includes one in XP
even without SP2. Or use ZA. Your choice - but it's your job to protect your
computer, and you've been given the built-in tools with which to do so.



>
>
> "omi" wrote:
>
>> thnx,
>>
>> i thought the win-firewall was only in SP2
>> this might solve a lot
>> about messenger, i'm so spooked right now that i prefer to
>> completely delete this program from my system at next install, i'll
>> find other ways to chat with my friends, plenty of options. I just
>> hope that messenger won't be reinstalled when i install SP2 or
>> something, but for safety i'll make the adjustments to prevent
>> messenger from running also.
>>
>> I hear almost nothing but critism about NIS, i guess it became the
>> victim of it's own popularity eh, a cooperation that big looks like
>> the ultimate target for hackers, like infiltrating into the fbi's
>> office or something.
>>
>> Thnx for the ZoneAlarm tip !!
>> I had it on my 1st pc a few years ago but have forgotten the
>> excistance It'll be installed at next installation.
>> I'm testing it now and the Messenger pop-ups are being blocked by it
>> it's a start
>>
>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>
>>> Omi
>>>
>>> You do not have to update before turning on the Windows XP
>>> firewall.. either go to Control Panel and look for the Windows
>>> Firewall icon there, or click on START - Settings - Network
>>> Connections, locate your ISP connection icon, right click and
>>> select Properties, click on the Advanced tab and check the box to
>>> activate the firewall..
>>>
>>> The Windows Messaging Service is NOT the same as Windows Messenger,
>>> so you do not have to remove Windows Messenger..
>>>
>>> Re. NIS.. any protection is better than none at all.. you should
>>> ALWAYS install whatever security program you have in your
>>> possession BEFORE connecting to the internet.. personally, I think
>>> that you would be better off without NIS.. better to install
>>> Zonealarm free firewall, and AVG or Avast free anti-virus if funds
>>> are tight for you..
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall
>>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>> "omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:EB348B4A-8D89-434D-8E3E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> question, u say:
>>>>>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
>>>> How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
>>>> There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
>>>> I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
>>>> i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will
>>>> help
>>>>
>>>> omi
>>>>
>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or
>>>>> remove the Messenger service.
>>>>>
>>>>> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window
>>>>> titled Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not
>>>>> secure. You should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and
>>>>> disable the Messenger Service in Windows XP to help protect your
>>>>> computer from unwanted spam and
>>>>> other potential threats.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
>>>>> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks.
>>>>> However, some
>>>>> advertisers have started using this service to send information
>>>>> via the Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to
>>>>> distribute a virus.]]
>>>>> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
>>>>> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks
>>>>> inbound
>>>>> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
>>>>> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
>>>>> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement
>>>>> appears
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>>>>>
>>>>> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement
>>>>> appears
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>>>>>
>>>>> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows
>>>>> XP-based computer
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
>>>>>
>>>>> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
>>>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows®
>>>>> Messenger from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System
>>>>> Registry to prevent a long
>>>>> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is
>>>>> removed or disabled.]]
>>>>> Remove Windows Messenger
>>>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wes
>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>
>>>>> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
>>>>> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much
>>>>>> attention,
>>>>>> it's not my intention to spam or anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i changed my ip a few times and then released it
>>>>>> i disconnected the internet cable
>>>>>> i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
>>>>>> installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
>>>>>> installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
>>>>>> (rebooted when nessecairy)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
>>>>>> - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
>>>>>> - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Messenger-Service
>>>>>> Message from MICROSOFT to USER
>>>>>> Critical Error
>>>>>> The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries
>>>>>> and your computer will crash. Please download the Windows
>>>>>> registry application from: www.fixed-pc.com
>>>>>> To fix your system immediatly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <<a few seconds later>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Messenger-Service
>>>>>> Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
>>>>>> Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be
>>>>>> infected. Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner
>>>>>> at www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system
>>>>>> registry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
>>>>>> i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
>>>>>> i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
>>>>>> no other hd's are connected
>>>>>> i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp &
>>>>>> msi) those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now there's no point updating winxp or msi
>>>>>> installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have
>>>>>> reinstalled so
>>>>>> much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which
>>>>>> contains numbers only.
>>>>>> The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical
>>>>>> staff instead
>>>>>
>>>>>> of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my
>>>>>> invalid-payment i
>>>>>> do not have the money to do so, although i find that such
>>>>>> assistance should be free of charge.
>>>>>> Luckely there a free forums like this.
>>>>>> I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thnx in advance
>>>>>> omi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections

Omi

Where did Zonealarm come in?... your original post talked of NIS and the
Windows firewall..

The hits that Zonealarm is recording shows that it is doing it's job.. we
all get hits continually from port scanners around the world.. what you
should do is turn off all alerts other than critical..

Installation of Zonealarm will automatically turn off Windows firewall,
because one does not require two firewalls running..

Windows should include a NAT router?.. why?.. Windows is software.. NAT
routers are hardware..

Have you tried looking in the Zonealarm help files?.. or any help files at
all?..

Coming in here with the attitude that MS should advise that there OS is full
of holes like Swiss cheese will get attitude reflected back at you.. they
are the words of the ill-informed and technically challenged.. many people
run Windows operating systems without problems, and when they get any, they
come here and ask nicely.. none of this 'every body knows that M$ Windoze
is crap' jive..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:2BCCC2C0-85DD-43E0-B9F0-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Again it didn't went as it should
> leaking mb's again
> ZoneAlarm is stopping those MSN popups
> and blockes a lot of attempts
> tracking down the ip's shows 90% is coming from china
>
> i give up, next time i reinstall i'll be having a NAT router
> MS should include one when buying a winxp cd-rom that's what i think
> or at least advise customers that their software is full of holes, like
> Swiss cheese
>
> thnx to everyone who invested their time and effort to try and help me
> cheers
> omi
>
>
> "omi" wrote:
>
>> thnx,
>>
>> i thought the win-firewall was only in SP2
>> this might solve a lot
>> about messenger, i'm so spooked right now that i prefer to completely
>> delete
>> this program from my system at next install, i'll find other ways to chat
>> with my friends, plenty of options. I just hope that messenger won't be
>> reinstalled when i install SP2 or something, but for safety i'll make the
>> adjustments to prevent messenger from running also.
>>
>> I hear almost nothing but critism about NIS, i guess it became the victim
>> of
>> it's own popularity eh, a cooperation that big looks like the ultimate
>> target
>> for hackers, like infiltrating into the fbi's office or something.
>>
>> Thnx for the ZoneAlarm tip !!
>> I had it on my 1st pc a few years ago but have forgotten the excistance
>> It'll be installed at next installation.
>> I'm testing it now and the Messenger pop-ups are being blocked by it
>> it's a start
>>
>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>
>> > Omi
>> >
>> > You do not have to update before turning on the Windows XP firewall..
>> > either
>> > go to Control Panel and look for the Windows Firewall icon there, or
>> > click
>> > on START - Settings - Network Connections, locate your ISP connection
>> > icon,
>> > right click and select Properties, click on the Advanced tab and check
>> > the
>> > box to activate the firewall..
>> >
>> > The Windows Messaging Service is NOT the same as Windows Messenger, so
>> > you
>> > do not have to remove Windows Messenger..
>> >
>> > Re. NIS.. any protection is better than none at all.. you should ALWAYS
>> > install whatever security program you have in your possession BEFORE
>> > connecting to the internet.. personally, I think that you would be
>> > better
>> > off without NIS.. better to install Zonealarm free firewall, and AVG or
>> > Avast free anti-virus if funds are tight for you..
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mike Hall
>> > MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >
>> >
>> > "omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:EB348B4A-8D89-434D-8E3E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > question, u say:
>> > >>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
>> > > How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
>> > > There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
>> > > I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
>> > > i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will help
>> > >
>> > > omi
>> > >
>> > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
>> > >>
>> > >> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or
>> > >> remove the
>> > >> Messenger service.
>> > >>
>> > >> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
>> > >> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure.
>> > >> You
>> > >> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the
>> > >> Messenger
>> > >> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted
>> > >> spam
>> > >> and
>> > >> other potential threats.
>> > >>
>> > >> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
>> > >> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks.
>> > >> However,
>> > >> some
>> > >> advertisers have started using this service to send information via
>> > >> the
>> > >> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute
>> > >> a
>> > >> virus.]]
>> > >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
>> > >>
>> > >> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
>> > >> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks
>> > >> inbound
>> > >> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
>> > >> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
>> > >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement
>> > >> appears
>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>> > >>
>> > >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
>> > >>
>> > >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement
>> > >> appears
>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>> > >>
>> > >> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based
>> > >> computer
>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
>> > >>
>> > >> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
>> > >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
>> > >>
>> > >> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows®
>> > >> Messenger
>> > >> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to
>> > >> prevent a
>> > >> long
>> > >> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed
>> > >> or
>> > >> disabled.]]
>> > >> Remove Windows Messenger
>> > >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>> > >>
>> > >> Wes
>> > >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>> > >>
>> > >> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
>> > >> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
>> > >> > Hello,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much
>> > >> > attention,
>> > >> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
>> > >> > i disconnected the internet cable
>> > >> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
>> > >> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
>> > >> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
>> > >> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
>> > >> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
>> > >> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Messenger-Service
>> > >> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
>> > >> > Critical Error
>> > >> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and
>> > >> > your
>> > >> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry
>> > >> > application
>> > >> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
>> > >> > To fix your system immediatly
>> > >> >
>> > >> > <<a few seconds later>>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Messenger-Service
>> > >> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
>> > >> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be
>> > >> > infected.
>> > >> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
>> > >> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
>> > >> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
>> > >> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
>> > >> > no other hd's are connected
>> > >> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp &
>> > >> > msi)
>> > >> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
>> > >> >
>> > >> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
>> > >> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
>> > >> >
>> > >> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have
>> > >> > reinstalled
>> > >> > so
>> > >> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which
>> > >> > contains
>> > >> > numbers only.
>> > >> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff
>> > >> > instead
>> > >>
>> > >> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my
>> > >> > invalid-payment
>> > >> > i
>> > >> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such
>> > >> > assistance
>> > >> > should be free of charge.
>> > >> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
>> > >> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > thnx in advance
>> > >> > omi
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

Right on. No one has said about windows being Fort Knox in terms of
security. There always a trade off of ease of use, responsiveness against
security that can easily mitigated with a little external help on security.

Right now connecting to internet without proper protection is like having
your doors open inviting intruders into your home.

Besides, back in those days of designing XP, the internet was quite a bit
more friendly, and has a lot less crooks.

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Omi
>
> Where did Zonealarm come in?... your original post talked of NIS and the
> Windows firewall..
>
> The hits that Zonealarm is recording shows that it is doing it's job.. we
> all get hits continually from port scanners around the world.. what you
> should do is turn off all alerts other than critical..
>
> Installation of Zonealarm will automatically turn off Windows firewall,
> because one does not require two firewalls running..
>
> Windows should include a NAT router?.. why?.. Windows is software.. NAT
> routers are hardware..
>
> Have you tried looking in the Zonealarm help files?.. or any help files at
> all?..
>
> Coming in here with the attitude that MS should advise that there OS is
> full of holes like Swiss cheese will get attitude reflected back at you..
> they are the words of the ill-informed and technically challenged.. many
> people run Windows operating systems without problems, and when they get
> any, they come here and ask nicely.. none of this 'every body knows that
> M$ Windoze is crap' jive..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:2BCCC2C0-85DD-43E0-B9F0-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Again it didn't went as it should
>> leaking mb's again
>> ZoneAlarm is stopping those MSN popups
>> and blockes a lot of attempts
>> tracking down the ip's shows 90% is coming from china
>>
>> i give up, next time i reinstall i'll be having a NAT router
>> MS should include one when buying a winxp cd-rom that's what i think
>> or at least advise customers that their software is full of holes, like
>> Swiss cheese
>>
>> thnx to everyone who invested their time and effort to try and help me
>> cheers
>> omi
>>
>>
>> "omi" wrote:
>>
>>> thnx,
>>>
>>> i thought the win-firewall was only in SP2
>>> this might solve a lot
>>> about messenger, i'm so spooked right now that i prefer to completely
>>> delete
>>> this program from my system at next install, i'll find other ways to
>>> chat
>>> with my friends, plenty of options. I just hope that messenger won't be
>>> reinstalled when i install SP2 or something, but for safety i'll make
>>> the
>>> adjustments to prevent messenger from running also.
>>>
>>> I hear almost nothing but critism about NIS, i guess it became the
>>> victim of
>>> it's own popularity eh, a cooperation that big looks like the ultimate
>>> target
>>> for hackers, like infiltrating into the fbi's office or something.
>>>
>>> Thnx for the ZoneAlarm tip !!
>>> I had it on my 1st pc a few years ago but have forgotten the excistance
>>> It'll be installed at next installation.
>>> I'm testing it now and the Messenger pop-ups are being blocked by it
>>> it's a start
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>>
>>> > Omi
>>> >
>>> > You do not have to update before turning on the Windows XP firewall..
>>> > either
>>> > go to Control Panel and look for the Windows Firewall icon there, or
>>> > click
>>> > on START - Settings - Network Connections, locate your ISP connection
>>> > icon,
>>> > right click and select Properties, click on the Advanced tab and check
>>> > the
>>> > box to activate the firewall..
>>> >
>>> > The Windows Messaging Service is NOT the same as Windows Messenger, so
>>> > you
>>> > do not have to remove Windows Messenger..
>>> >
>>> > Re. NIS.. any protection is better than none at all.. you should
>>> > ALWAYS
>>> > install whatever security program you have in your possession BEFORE
>>> > connecting to the internet.. personally, I think that you would be
>>> > better
>>> > off without NIS.. better to install Zonealarm free firewall, and AVG
>>> > or
>>> > Avast free anti-virus if funds are tight for you..
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mike Hall
>>> > MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> > news:EB348B4A-8D89-434D-8E3E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > > question, u say:
>>> > >>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
>>> > > How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
>>> > > There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
>>> > > I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
>>> > > i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will
>>> > > help
>>> > >
>>> > > omi
>>> > >
>>> > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or
>>> > >> remove the
>>> > >> Messenger service.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
>>> > >> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure.
>>> > >> You
>>> > >> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the
>>> > >> Messenger
>>> > >> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted
>>> > >> spam
>>> > >> and
>>> > >> other potential threats.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
>>> > >> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks.
>>> > >> However,
>>> > >> some
>>> > >> advertisers have started using this service to send information via
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to
>>> > >> distribute a
>>> > >> virus.]]
>>> > >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>>> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
>>> > >>
>>> > >> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
>>> > >> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks
>>> > >> inbound
>>> > >> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
>>> > >> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
>>> > >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement
>>> > >> appears
>>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
>>> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement
>>> > >> appears
>>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
>>> > >>
>>> > >> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based
>>> > >> computer
>>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
>>> > >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
>>> > >>
>>> > >> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows®
>>> > >> Messenger
>>> > >> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to
>>> > >> prevent a
>>> > >> long
>>> > >> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is
>>> > >> removed or
>>> > >> disabled.]]
>>> > >> Remove Windows Messenger
>>> > >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Wes
>>> > >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> > >>
>>> > >> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
>>> > >> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
>>> > >> > Hello,
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much
>>> > >> > attention,
>>> > >> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
>>> > >> > i disconnected the internet cable
>>> > >> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
>>> > >> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
>>> > >> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
>>> > >> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
>>> > >> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
>>> > >> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Messenger-Service
>>> > >> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
>>> > >> > Critical Error
>>> > >> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries
>>> > >> > and your
>>> > >> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry
>>> > >> > application
>>> > >> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
>>> > >> > To fix your system immediatly
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > <<a few seconds later>>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Messenger-Service
>>> > >> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
>>> > >> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be
>>> > >> > infected.
>>> > >> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
>>> > >> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
>>> > >> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
>>> > >> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
>>> > >> > no other hd's are connected
>>> > >> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp &
>>> > >> > msi)
>>> > >> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
>>> > >> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have
>>> > >> > reinstalled
>>> > >> > so
>>> > >> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which
>>> > >> > contains
>>> > >> > numbers only.
>>> > >> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical
>>> > >> > staff
>>> > >> > instead
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my
>>> > >> > invalid-payment
>>> > >> > i
>>> > >> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such
>>> > >> > assistance
>>> > >> > should be free of charge.
>>> > >> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
>>> > >> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > thnx in advance
>>> > >> > omi
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>
>

thnx,

i thought the win-firewall was only in SP2
this might solve a lot
about messenger, i'm so spooked right now that i prefer to completely delete
this program from my system at next install, i'll find other ways to chat
with my friends, plenty of options. I just hope that messenger won't be
reinstalled when i install SP2 or something, but for safety i'll make the
adjustments to prevent messenger from running also.

I hear almost nothing but critism about NIS, i guess it became the victim of
it's own popularity eh, a cooperation that big looks like the ultimate target
for hackers, like infiltrating into the fbi's office or something.

Thnx for the ZoneAlarm tip !!
I had it on my 1st pc a few years ago but have forgotten the excistance
It'll be installed at next installation.
I'm testing it now and the Messenger pop-ups are being blocked by it
it's a start

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Omi
>
> You do not have to update before turning on the Windows XP firewall.. either
> go to Control Panel and look for the Windows Firewall icon there, or click
> on START - Settings - Network Connections, locate your ISP connection icon,
> right click and select Properties, click on the Advanced tab and check the
> box to activate the firewall..
>
> The Windows Messaging Service is NOT the same as Windows Messenger, so you
> do not have to remove Windows Messenger..
>
> Re. NIS.. any protection is better than none at all.. you should ALWAYS
> install whatever security program you have in your possession BEFORE
> connecting to the internet.. personally, I think that you would be better
> off without NIS.. better to install Zonealarm free firewall, and AVG or
> Avast free anti-virus if funds are tight for you..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "omi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:EB348B4A-8D89-434D-8E3E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > question, u say:
> >>> Make sure a firewall is turned on.
> > How can i turn on a firewall the first time i connect to the net ??
> > There's no software that is updated, both NIS as winxp
> > I have to update first before i can turn on the firewall.
> > i can turn on an unupdated NIS firewall but i doubt if this will help
> >
> > omi
> >
> > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >
> >> These are known as Messenger service SPAM.
> >>
> >> Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
> >> Messenger service.
> >>
> >> [[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
> >> Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
> >> should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
> >> Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam
> >> and
> >> other potential threats.
> >>
> >> The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
> >> administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However,
> >> some
> >> advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
> >> Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
> >> virus.]]
> >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx
> >>
> >> [[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
> >> [[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks
> >> inbound
> >> NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
> >> [[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
> >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
> >>
> >> Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp
> >>
> >> Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;330904
> >>
> >> How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based
> >> computer
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089
> >>
> >> Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
> >>
> >> [[This is a Visual Basic Script file which will remove Windows® Messenger
> >> from Windows® XP. It will also adjust your System Registry to prevent a
> >> long
> >> delay when opening Outlook Express when Windows Messenger is removed or
> >> disabled.]]
> >> Remove Windows Messenger
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>
> >> Wes
> >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> In news:94F6817B-494A-4C18-9F1B-(E-Mail Removed),
> >> omi <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > i start this thread because i assume old threats don't get much
> >> > attention,
> >> > it's not my intention to spam or anything.
> >> >
> >> > i changed my ip a few times and then released it
> >> > i disconnected the internet cable
> >> > i formatted my drive twice (normal & fast)
> >> > installed winxp-home (original cd-rom)
> >> > installed msi-mainboard (original cd-rom)
> >> > (rebooted when nessecairy)
> >> >
> >> > when i inserted the internet cable to activate winxp:
> >> > - immediatly i have a constant up-& downstream
> >> > - after a minute or so i get following pop-up messages:
> >> >
> >> > Messenger-Service
> >> > Message from MICROSOFT to USER
> >> > Critical Error
> >> > The Microsoft Windows system contains invalid registry entries and your
> >> > computer will crash. Please download the Windows registry application
> >> > from: www.fixed-pc.com
> >> > To fix your system immediatly
> >> >
> >> > <<a few seconds later>>
> >> >
> >> > Messenger-Service
> >> > Message from Microsoft to inform you about a virus detection.
> >> > Critical System Error ! The Windows registry appears to be infected.
> >> > Please go to the Universal Registry Infection Cleaner at
> >> > www.cleanmyharddrive.com to scan and repair the system registry.
> >> >
> >> > << every now and then i get diverse popups like this>>
> >> > i did not install the 35,3Mb NIS, so that's not it
> >> > i only installed the original winxp & msi mainboard
> >> > no other hd's are connected
> >> > i did not load any files except the 2 i mentioned above (winxp & msi)
> >> > those 2 are on original cd-roms so they can't be infected
> >> >
> >> > now there's no point updating winxp or msi
> >> > installing NIS & updating also makes no difference
> >> >
> >> > At this time my winxp-key is blocked by MS because i have reinstalled
> >> > so
> >> > much, i have to phone them every time to get a new key which contains
> >> > numbers only.
> >> > The dude on the other side advised me to phone the technical staff
> >> > instead
> >>
> >> > of reinstalling all the time... because i live from my invalid-payment
> >> > i
> >> > do not have the money to do so, although i find that such assistance
> >> > should be free of charge.
> >> > Luckely there a free forums like this.
> >> > I hope you guys can help me out with this problem.
> >> >
> >> > thnx in advance
> >> > omi
> >> >
> >> > I tried scanning with all known security progs, no infections
> >>
> >>
>
>
>