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Bhargav Shukla
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      28th Oct 2003
Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been going down.
I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes unanswered. I
get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is critical.
Thanks for all help in advance.

All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users started
getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.

When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
\\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try accessing the same
files using direct share \\server1\... it works!

For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails when they
try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com

For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them solved the
problem. For others nothing worked!

All help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Bhargav Shukla



 
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Sto RageŠ
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      28th Oct 2003
Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that mean dfsroot
is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
\\server1\share ?

Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
\\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How many
servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS redirection?
What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename, directory
name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"

May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for you.
BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our environment
and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me awake all night
hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have put a lot of
effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the long run.
-G


"Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been going

down.
> I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes unanswered.

I
> get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is critical.
> Thanks for all help in advance.
>
> All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users started
> getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
>
> When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try accessing the

same
> files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
>
> For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails when they
> try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
>
> For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them solved the
> problem. For others nothing worked!
>
> All help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bhargav Shukla
>
>
>



 
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Bhargav Shukla
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      29th Oct 2003
Thanks for your response.

All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use standalone
roots.

Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose actual names
due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on \\server1\share and
\\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS roots and
replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started and
automatic service.

Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level support so we
don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the dfs share
when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share. They sure can
access the files when they use \\server1\share or \\server2\share. From one
of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.

For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right. That's why these
groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see what's
going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are proactive.

We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make out. If you
are interested in more details, post here and I will share.

Thanks,
Bhargav

"Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that mean

dfsroot
> is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> \\server1\share ?
>
> Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How many
> servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS redirection?
> What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename, directory
> name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
>
> May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for you.
> BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our environment
> and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me awake all

night
> hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have put a lot of
> effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the long run.
> -G
>
>
> "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been going

> down.
> > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes

unanswered.
> I
> > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is

critical.
> > Thanks for all help in advance.
> >
> > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users started
> > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> >
> > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try accessing the

> same
> > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> >
> > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails when

they
> > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> >
> > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them solved

the
> > problem. For others nothing worked!
> >
> > All help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bhargav Shukla
> >
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Daniel Billingsley
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      29th Oct 2003
First, you probably shouldn't have replication explicitly turned on for the
roots. I learned the hard way about that.

Second, I believe the syntax is \\domain\dfsroot - I don't know what you
meant by \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share

"Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for your response.
>
> All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use standalone
> roots.
>
> Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose actual names
> due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on \\server1\share and
> \\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS roots and
> replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started and
> automatic service.
>
> Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level support so we
> don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the dfs share
> when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share. They sure can
> access the files when they use \\server1\share or \\server2\share. From

one
> of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.
>
> For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right. That's why

these
> groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see what's
> going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are

proactive.
>
> We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make out. If you
> are interested in more details, post here and I will share.
>
> Thanks,
> Bhargav
>
> "Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> > by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that mean

> dfsroot
> > is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> > \\server1\share ?
> >
> > Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How many
> > servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS redirection?
> > What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename, directory
> > name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
> >
> > May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for you.
> > BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our

environment
> > and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me awake all

> night
> > hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have put a lot

of
> > effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the long

run.
> > -G
> >
> >
> > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been going

> > down.
> > > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes

> unanswered.
> > I
> > > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is

> critical.
> > > Thanks for all help in advance.
> > >
> > > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users started
> > > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> > >
> > > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try accessing the

> > same
> > > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> > >
> > > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails when

> they
> > > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> > >
> > > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them solved

> the
> > > problem. For others nothing worked!
> > >
> > > All help is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bhargav Shukla
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Bhargav Shukla
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      29th Oct 2003
Sorry about the confusion. In my second post I have it corrected to
\\company.parent.com (FQDN) or \\company (NetBIOS) which represents domain.

I did not understand the first part... about replication policy. If you can
explain a bit it will be helpful. Sorry if I'm asking stupid question.
Thanks for all your help.


"Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:O2YeV$(E-Mail Removed)...
> First, you probably shouldn't have replication explicitly turned on for

the
> roots. I learned the hard way about that.
>
> Second, I believe the syntax is \\domain\dfsroot - I don't know what you
> meant by \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share
>
> "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks for your response.
> >
> > All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use standalone
> > roots.
> >
> > Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose actual

names
> > due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on \\server1\share and
> > \\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS roots and
> > replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started and
> > automatic service.
> >
> > Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level support so we
> > don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the dfs

share
> > when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share. They sure

can
> > access the files when they use \\server1\share or \\server2\share. From

> one
> > of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.
> >
> > For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right. That's why

> these
> > groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see what's
> > going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are

> proactive.
> >
> > We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make out. If

you
> > are interested in more details, post here and I will share.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bhargav
> >
> > "Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> > > by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that mean

> > dfsroot
> > > is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> > > \\server1\share ?
> > >
> > > Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How many
> > > servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS redirection?
> > > What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename,

directory
> > > name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
> > >
> > > May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for you.
> > > BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our

> environment
> > > and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me awake all

> > night
> > > hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have put a

lot
> of
> > > effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the long

> run.
> > > -G
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been

going
> > > down.
> > > > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes

> > unanswered.
> > > I
> > > > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is

> > critical.
> > > > Thanks for all help in advance.
> > > >
> > > > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users

started
> > > > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> > > >
> > > > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try accessing

the
> > > same
> > > > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> > > >
> > > > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails when

> > they
> > > > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> > > >
> > > > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them

solved
> > the
> > > > problem. For others nothing worked!
> > > >
> > > > All help is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Bhargav Shukla
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Daniel Billingsley
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Posts: n/a
 
      30th Oct 2003
Well, here's a couple of points about roots I learned the hard way

- you should not use the root for storing any files. It is only the
"placeholder" for the links.
- when you create a second root target, the placeholder information will
replicate automatically. you do not need to explicitly "turn on"
replication like you do on a link. Doing so will likely cause major
problems. (And it gets really nasty if you combine these two!)

They've changed the terminology a bit with Windows 2003 to make this a
little clearer.

"Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:epdh$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry about the confusion. In my second post I have it corrected to
> \\company.parent.com (FQDN) or \\company (NetBIOS) which represents

domain.
>
> I did not understand the first part... about replication policy. If you

can
> explain a bit it will be helpful. Sorry if I'm asking stupid question.
> Thanks for all your help.
>
>
> "Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O2YeV$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > First, you probably shouldn't have replication explicitly turned on for

> the
> > roots. I learned the hard way about that.
> >
> > Second, I believe the syntax is \\domain\dfsroot - I don't know what you
> > meant by \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share
> >
> > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Thanks for your response.
> > >
> > > All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use

standalone
> > > roots.
> > >
> > > Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose actual

> names
> > > due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on \\server1\share

and
> > > \\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS roots and
> > > replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started and
> > > automatic service.
> > >
> > > Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level support so

we
> > > don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the dfs

> share
> > > when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share. They sure

> can
> > > access the files when they use \\server1\share or \\server2\share.

From
> > one
> > > of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.
> > >
> > > For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right. That's why

> > these
> > > groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see

what's
> > > going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are

> > proactive.
> > >
> > > We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make out. If

> you
> > > are interested in more details, post here and I will share.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bhargav
> > >
> > > "Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> > > > by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that mean
> > > dfsroot
> > > > is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> > > > \\server1\share ?
> > > >
> > > > Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How

many
> > > > servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS redirection?
> > > > What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename,

> directory
> > > > name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
> > > >
> > > > May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for

you.
> > > > BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our

> > environment
> > > > and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me awake

all
> > > night
> > > > hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have put a

> lot
> > of
> > > > effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the

long
> > run.
> > > > -G
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been

> going
> > > > down.
> > > > > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes
> > > unanswered.
> > > > I
> > > > > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is
> > > critical.
> > > > > Thanks for all help in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users

> started
> > > > > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> > > > >
> > > > > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try accessing

> the
> > > > same
> > > > > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> > > > >
> > > > > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails

when
> > > they
> > > > > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> > > > >
> > > > > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them

> solved
> > > the
> > > > > problem. For others nothing worked!
> > > > >
> > > > > All help is appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Bhargav Shukla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Bhargav Shukla
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      30th Oct 2003
Daniel,

Thanks for pointers.

You are right, we do not put any data in root itself. It's used only as a
placeholder.

Thanks,
Bhargav

"Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, here's a couple of points about roots I learned the hard way
>
> - you should not use the root for storing any files. It is only the
> "placeholder" for the links.
> - when you create a second root target, the placeholder information will
> replicate automatically. you do not need to explicitly "turn on"
> replication like you do on a link. Doing so will likely cause major
> problems. (And it gets really nasty if you combine these two!)
>
> They've changed the terminology a bit with Windows 2003 to make this a
> little clearer.
>
> "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:epdh$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Sorry about the confusion. In my second post I have it corrected to
> > \\company.parent.com (FQDN) or \\company (NetBIOS) which represents

> domain.
> >
> > I did not understand the first part... about replication policy. If you

> can
> > explain a bit it will be helpful. Sorry if I'm asking stupid question.
> > Thanks for all your help.
> >
> >
> > "Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
> > news:O2YeV$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > First, you probably shouldn't have replication explicitly turned on

for
> > the
> > > roots. I learned the hard way about that.
> > >
> > > Second, I believe the syntax is \\domain\dfsroot - I don't know what

you
> > > meant by \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share
> > >
> > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Thanks for your response.
> > > >
> > > > All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use

> standalone
> > > > roots.
> > > >
> > > > Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose actual

> > names
> > > > due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on \\server1\share

> and
> > > > \\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS roots

and
> > > > replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started and
> > > > automatic service.
> > > >
> > > > Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level support so

> we
> > > > don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the dfs

> > share
> > > > when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share. They

sure
> > can
> > > > access the files when they use \\server1\share or \\server2\share.

> From
> > > one
> > > > of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.
> > > >
> > > > For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right. That's

why
> > > these
> > > > groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see

> what's
> > > > going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are
> > > proactive.
> > > >
> > > > We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make out.

If
> > you
> > > > are interested in more details, post here and I will share.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Bhargav
> > > >
> > > > "Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> > > > > by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that

mean
> > > > dfsroot
> > > > > is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> > > > > \\server1\share ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How

> many
> > > > > servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS redirection?
> > > > > What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename,

> > directory
> > > > > name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
> > > > >
> > > > > May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for

> you.
> > > > > BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our
> > > environment
> > > > > and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me awake

> all
> > > > night
> > > > > hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have put

a
> > lot
> > > of
> > > > > effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the

> long
> > > run.
> > > > > -G
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has been

> > going
> > > > > down.
> > > > > > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes
> > > > unanswered.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue is
> > > > critical.
> > > > > > Thanks for all help in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users

> > started
> > > > > > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try

accessing
> > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but fails

> when
> > > > they
> > > > > > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating them

> > solved
> > > > the
> > > > > > problem. For others nothing worked!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All help is appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Bhargav Shukla
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Daniel Vollmer
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      3rd Nov 2003
Hi,

which operating systems do you use for your clients? If not Windows 2000 and
higher, do you use the "active directory client extensions" on the clients?

Are the now used target servers always used since the start of dfs. Were
there other servers in place, which are deactivated now?

Do you have a fully functional name resolution and Active Directory
Replication?

Are the clients in other subnets than the servers?

If you have multiple domains, can the clients, which reside in a subdomain,
resolve names of the root domain? I ask, because certain service records
like global catalogs are only stored in the dns root domain zone.

Greetings,
Daniel

"Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Daniel,
>
> Thanks for pointers.
>
> You are right, we do not put any data in root itself. It's used only as a
> placeholder.
>
> Thanks,
> Bhargav
>
> "Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Well, here's a couple of points about roots I learned the hard way
> >
> > - you should not use the root for storing any files. It is only the
> > "placeholder" for the links.
> > - when you create a second root target, the placeholder information will
> > replicate automatically. you do not need to explicitly "turn on"
> > replication like you do on a link. Doing so will likely cause major
> > problems. (And it gets really nasty if you combine these two!)
> >
> > They've changed the terminology a bit with Windows 2003 to make this a
> > little clearer.
> >
> > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:epdh$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Sorry about the confusion. In my second post I have it corrected to
> > > \\company.parent.com (FQDN) or \\company (NetBIOS) which represents

> > domain.
> > >
> > > I did not understand the first part... about replication policy. If

you
> > can
> > > explain a bit it will be helpful. Sorry if I'm asking stupid question.
> > > Thanks for all your help.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> > > news:O2YeV$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > First, you probably shouldn't have replication explicitly turned on

> for
> > > the
> > > > roots. I learned the hard way about that.
> > > >
> > > > Second, I believe the syntax is \\domain\dfsroot - I don't know what

> you
> > > > meant by \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share
> > > >
> > > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Thanks for your response.
> > > > >
> > > > > All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use

> > standalone
> > > > > roots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose

actual
> > > names
> > > > > due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on

\\server1\share
> > and
> > > > > \\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS roots

> and
> > > > > replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started

and
> > > > > automatic service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level support

so
> > we
> > > > > don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the

dfs
> > > share
> > > > > when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share. They

> sure
> > > can
> > > > > access the files when they use \\server1\share or \\server2\share.

> > From
> > > > one
> > > > > of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.
> > > > >
> > > > > For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right. That's

> why
> > > > these
> > > > > groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see

> > what's
> > > > > going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are
> > > > proactive.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make

out.
> If
> > > you
> > > > > are interested in more details, post here and I will share.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Bhargav
> > > > >
> > > > > "Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> > > > > > by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does that

> mean
> > > > > dfsroot
> > > > > > is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> > > > > > \\server1\share ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> > > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 . How

> > many
> > > > > > servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS

redirection?
> > > > > > What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename,
> > > directory
> > > > > > name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them for

> > you.
> > > > > > BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our
> > > > environment
> > > > > > and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me

awake
> > all
> > > > > night
> > > > > > hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have

put
> a
> > > lot
> > > > of
> > > > > > effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on the

> > long
> > > > run.
> > > > > > -G
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has

been
> > > going
> > > > > > down.
> > > > > > > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts goes
> > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue

is
> > > > > critical.
> > > > > > > Thanks for all help in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network. Users
> > > started
> > > > > > > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > > > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try

> accessing
> > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but

fails
> > when
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating

them
> > > solved
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > problem. For others nothing worked!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All help is appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Bhargav Shukla
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Bhargav Shukla
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      4th Nov 2003
Hi,

"Daniel Vollmer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> which operating systems do you use for your clients? If not Windows 2000

and
> higher, do you use the "active directory client extensions" on the

clients?
>


All W2K and WinXP machines.

> Are the now used target servers always used since the start of dfs. Were
> there other servers in place, which are deactivated now?
>


Same Servers.

> Do you have a fully functional name resolution and Active Directory
> Replication?
>


Yes.

> Are the clients in other subnets than the servers?
>


Yes.

> If you have multiple domains, can the clients, which reside in a

subdomain,
> resolve names of the root domain? I ask, because certain service records
> like global catalogs are only stored in the dns root domain zone.
>


Yes.

> Greetings,
> Daniel



For some reason, the error disappeared. We still don't know what caused the
problem and what solved it. We had open support incident with Microsoft
(which is closed now) which did not help because we can't reproduce the
error.

Thanks for all your help.

Bhargav

>
> "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Daniel,
> >
> > Thanks for pointers.
> >
> > You are right, we do not put any data in root itself. It's used only as

a
> > placeholder.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bhargav
> >
> > "Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
> > news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Well, here's a couple of points about roots I learned the hard way
> > >
> > > - you should not use the root for storing any files. It is only the
> > > "placeholder" for the links.
> > > - when you create a second root target, the placeholder information

will
> > > replicate automatically. you do not need to explicitly "turn on"
> > > replication like you do on a link. Doing so will likely cause major
> > > problems. (And it gets really nasty if you combine these two!)
> > >
> > > They've changed the terminology a bit with Windows 2003 to make this a
> > > little clearer.
> > >
> > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:epdh$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Sorry about the confusion. In my second post I have it corrected to
> > > > \\company.parent.com (FQDN) or \\company (NetBIOS) which represents
> > > domain.
> > > >
> > > > I did not understand the first part... about replication policy. If

> you
> > > can
> > > > explain a bit it will be helpful. Sorry if I'm asking stupid

question.
> > > > Thanks for all your help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Daniel Billingsley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> > message
> > > > news:O2YeV$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > First, you probably shouldn't have replication explicitly turned

on
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > roots. I learned the hard way about that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Second, I believe the syntax is \\domain\dfsroot - I don't know

what
> > you
> > > > > meant by \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Thanks for your response.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All referenced in my post are Domain DFS roots. We do not use
> > > standalone
> > > > > > roots.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our dfs layout is \\company.parent.com\share (won't disclose

> actual
> > > > names
> > > > > > due to obvious reasons). The share has 2 replicas on

> \\server1\share
> > > and
> > > > > > \\server2\share they are not DCs. Since they are domain DFS

roots
> > and
> > > > > > replicas and we have replication enabled on them, FRS is started

> and
> > > > > > automatic service.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Users are reporting different errors and we are 3rd level

support
> so
> > > we
> > > > > > don't know exact errors. Most of them just can't get thru to the

> dfs
> > > > share
> > > > > > when they use \\company.parent.com\share or \\company\share.

They
> > sure
> > > > can
> > > > > > access the files when they use \\server1\share or

\\server2\share.
> > > From
> > > > > one
> > > > > > of the tickets "The network path not found" is the error.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For your concern about your infrastructure, you are right.

That's
> > why
> > > > > these
> > > > > > groups comes handy. They are good resource and helps just to see
> > > what's
> > > > > > going on with others and it helps us avoid many issues if we are
> > > > > proactive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have opened incidense with microsoft. Let's see how we make

> out.
> > If
> > > > you
> > > > > > are interested in more details, post here and I will share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Bhargav
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Sto RageŠ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > Is this a domain based DFS root or a standalone?
> > > > > > > by what you are saying it looks like a standalone, so does

that
> > mean
> > > > > > dfsroot
> > > > > > > is the name of your server? which has a link that points to
> > > > > > > \\server1\share ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you give us your DFS layout? i.e some thing like
> > > > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com\share1 points to \\server1\share1 .

How
> > > many
> > > > > > > servers are involved? are you using FRS ? or just DFS

> redirection?
> > > > > > > What is the exact error they get? "access denied"; "filename,
> > > > directory
> > > > > > > name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > May be these answers will trigger the experts to answer them

for
> > > you.
> > > > > > > BTW, I am no expert on DFS, just begun implementing it in our
> > > > > environment
> > > > > > > and every time someone brings up a DFS problem, it keeps me

> awake
> > > all
> > > > > > night
> > > > > > > hoping I don't get into a similar issue at my site We have

> put
> > a
> > > > lot
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > effort to get DFS implemented and hope to benefit from it on

the
> > > long
> > > > > run.
> > > > > > > -G
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Bhargav Shukla" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > > Looks like the participation of experts in MS newsgrups has

> been
> > > > going
> > > > > > > down.
> > > > > > > > I use the groups regularly and noticed nowadays my posts

goes
> > > > > > unanswered.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > get no answers for many days. Sorry for repost but the issue

> is
> > > > > > critical.
> > > > > > > > Thanks for all help in advance.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All of a sudden this started cropping up in our network.

Users
> > > > started
> > > > > > > > getting errors with DFS shares. Here is what happens.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When user tries to open the DFS location they get the error
> > > > > > > > \\dfsroot.mydomain.com could not be found. When they try

> > accessing
> > > > the
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > files using direct share \\server1\... it works!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For some users it even works when they type \\dfsroot but

> fails
> > > when
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > try \\dfsroot.mydomain.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For some users deleting the shortcut to DFS and recreating

> them
> > > > solved
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > problem. For others nothing worked!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All help is appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Bhargav Shukla
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

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