The probable answer lies in one of Google's underground parking garages
in Mountain View. There, in a secret area off-limits even to regular
GoogleFolk, is a shipping container. But it isn't just any shipping
container. This shipping container is a prototype data center. Google
hired a pair of very bright industrial designers to figure out how to
cram the greatest number of CPUs, the most storage, memory and power
support into a 20- or 40-foot box. We're talking about 5000 Opteron
processors and 3.5 petabytes of disk storage that can be dropped-off
overnight by a tractor-trailer rig. The idea is to plant one of these
puppies anywhere Google owns access to fiber, basically turning the
entire Internet into a giant processing and storage grid.

While Google could put these containers anywhere, it makes the most
sense to place them at Internet peering points, of which there are about
300 worldwide.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Yousuf Khan typed this :
(removed cross-post - my question is OT for alt.invest.stocks.amd)
>The probable answer lies in one of Google's underground parking garages
>in Mountain View. There, in a secret area off-limits even to regular
>GoogleFolk, is a shipping container. But it isn't just any shipping
>container. This shipping container is a prototype data center. Google
>hired a pair of very bright industrial designers to figure out how to
>cram the greatest number of CPUs, the most storage, memory and power
>support into a 20- or 40-foot box. We're talking about 5000 Opteron
>processors and 3.5 petabytes of disk storage that can be dropped-off
>overnight by a tractor-trailer rig. The idea is to plant one of these
>puppies anywhere Google owns access to fiber, basically turning the
>entire Internet into a giant processing and storage grid.
>
>While Google could put these containers anywhere, it makes the most
>sense to place them at Internet peering points, of which there are about
>300 worldwide.
>http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html

How might it be cooled?
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:44:23 +0000, Roger Hunt <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>>http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html
>
>How might it be cooled?

I suppose the same way that containers holding fresh meat/vegs keep
the food chilled.

http://www.thaireefer.com/Refrigrated-Container_OK.gif
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, The little lost angel typed this :
>On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:44:23 +0000, Roger Hunt <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>>http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html
>>
>>How might it be cooled?
>
>I suppose the same way that containers holding fresh meat/vegs keep
>the food chilled.
>
>http://www.thaireefer.com/Refrigrated-Container_OK.gif

That's fine for keeping a bunch of frozen meat, but I was thinking as
much of the removal and disposal of heat from all the 5000 individual
CPUs and other components like RAM, in a confined space - quite a
challenge.
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The little lost angel wrote:
> I suppose the same way that containers holding fresh meat/vegs keep
> the food chilled.
>
> http://www.thaireefer.com/Refrigrated-Container_OK.gif

So the name of this website is "Thai Reefer"?

Yousuf Khan

Bitstring <(E-Mail Removed)>, from the wonderful
person Roger Hunt <(E-Mail Removed)> said
>On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, The little lost angel typed this :
>>On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:44:23 +0000, Roger Hunt <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html
>>>
>>>How might it be cooled?
>>
>>I suppose the same way that containers holding fresh meat/vegs keep
>>the food chilled.
>>
>>http://www.thaireefer.com/Refrigrated-Container_OK.gif
>
>That's fine for keeping a bunch of frozen meat, but I was thinking as
>much of the removal and disposal of heat from all the 5000 individual
>CPUs and other components like RAM, in a confined space - quite a
>challenge.

You pour half a waterfall into the top, pump it away at the bottom to
drop it 100ft down an evaporator tower, collect, and repeat .. at least
that what we used to do with dirty great big mainframes, which had whole
electricity substations just to themselves. 8>.

If you have a really, really confined space, you have a problem ..
maybe switch the water for something less corrosive/electrically
conductive, and just pump it straight through the whole shebang?

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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:27:48 -0500, Yousuf Khan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>The probable answer lies in one of Google's underground parking garages
>in Mountain View. There, in a secret area off-limits even to regular
>GoogleFolk, is a shipping container. But it isn't just any shipping
>container. This shipping container is a prototype data center. Google
>hired a pair of very bright industrial designers to figure out how to
>cram the greatest number of CPUs, the most storage, memory and power
>support into a 20- or 40-foot box. We're talking about 5000 Opteron
>processors and 3.5 petabytes of disk storage that can be dropped-off
>overnight by a tractor-trailer rig. The idea is to plant one of these
>puppies anywhere Google owns access to fiber, basically turning the
>entire Internet into a giant processing and storage grid.
>
>While Google could put these containers anywhere, it makes the most
>sense to place them at Internet peering points, of which there are about
>300 worldwide.
>
>http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051117.html

Hmm, so another myth bites the dust.... the one about "if AMD is so great,
why is Google an Intel-only shop"?

--
Rgds, George Macdonald

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:13:53 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote:

> You pour half a waterfall into the top, pump it away at the bottom to
> drop it 100ft down an evaporator tower, collect, and repeat .. at least
> that what we used to do with dirty great big mainframes, which had whole
> electricity substations just to themselves. 8>.
>

I remember back in the '70s I was working for Gulf Oil at their data
processing center in Houston. We had about 4 Sperry Univac mainframes
running at the time, and one day a construction crew working down the
street dug into and broke the city water main. After a few hours, we ran
out of water due to evaporation in the tower, and had to shut down all of
the mainframes, which was a very expensive proposition. The very next
week, a deep well was drilled on site. And of course, the electric motor
for the well was wired into the onsite emergency generators. Backups for
the backups -- it cost a LOT of money when those mainframes didn't run.

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Yousuf Khan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>The little lost angel wrote:
>> I suppose the same way that containers holding fresh meat/vegs keep
>> the food chilled.
>>
>> http://www.thaireefer.com/Refrigrated-Container_OK.gif
>
>So the name of this website is "Thai Reefer"?

"Reefer" is trucker jargon for "refrigerated trailer."

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:31:27 -0500, Yousuf Khan <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>> http://www.thaireefer.com/Refrigrated-Container_OK.gif
>
>So the name of this website is "Thai Reefer"?

No idea what the name means tho. I knew something like that existed so
I got it off google with an image search for refrigerated container :P
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