I want to create a filter for Yahoogroup emails that I receive. Specifically I
want to be able to mark my own emails that I post to the group as "read" and to
move them to the deleted items folder.

I created one that filters on specific text in the recipient's email address.
ie. part of my email address. Then I filtered on specific text in the subject
field, which is the group that is inserted into the subject text.

I then tell the filter to "delete it". There's a "delete permanently" option.
I'm assuming that the first one merely moves it to the Deleted Items folder. If
so, that's good. At least then I can see if it's working properly before I
change to delete permanently.

It'll be a while before I can see if it's working as it's quiet on weekends. But
should the above filter work?

Thanks.


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yes, it should work. Either use delete it or move it to a different folder
(can be deleted items or a folder you create to verify its working as
designed) then once you are sure its working, change it to delete or
permanently delete.

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"Snapper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I want to create a filter for Yahoogroup emails that I receive.
> Specifically I
> want to be able to mark my own emails that I post to the group as "read"
> and to
> move them to the deleted items folder.
>
> I created one that filters on specific text in the recipient's email
> address.
> ie. part of my email address. Then I filtered on specific text in the
> subject
> field, which is the group that is inserted into the subject text.
>
> I then tell the filter to "delete it". There's a "delete permanently"
> option.
> I'm assuming that the first one merely moves it to the Deleted Items
> folder. If
> so, that's good. At least then I can see if it's working properly before I
> change to delete permanently.
>
> It'll be a while before I can see if it's working as it's quiet on
> weekends. But
> should the above filter work?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> A Meltdown? One of those annoying buzzwords. We prefer to think of it as
> an
> unrequested fission surplus!

Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote...

> yes, it should work. Either use delete it or move it to a different folder
> (can be deleted items or a folder you create to verify its working as
> designed) then once you are sure its working, change it to delete or
> permanently delete.

I've got spams going into the Deleted Items folder which have the "delete"
option set in the rule. They show up in the folder list as having unread
messages in there.

I can't find how to make sure that it marks them as read. In any case I changed
the setting from "delete" to "permanently delete". I'll see how that goes.

I have two rules. One for spam. My ISP's mail server inserts "[SPAM]" into a
subject header when it detects spam. The rule looks for this text string in the
header and then applies the rule.

The other rule is to delete my posts to a yahoogroup mailing list. I don't want
to receive my own messages and there doesn't appear to be any setting in the
Yahoogroup to allow this to occur. So I apply a rule.

It was this rule that I was asking you guys about.

Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote...

> yes, it should work. Either use delete it or move it to a different folder
> (can be deleted items or a folder you create to verify its working as
> designed) then once you are sure its working, change it to delete or
> permanently delete.

Unfortunately the filter doesn't work. I am still receiving my own posts to that
Yahoogroup in Outlook.

It'd be handy if the Yahoogroup had an option "do not receive own posts".

Another one. How do I filter on domains based on country?

In the filter rules if I enter a domain it asks for the whole domain such as
spamalot.com.it or spammers_r_us.co.uk or spammed.com.nl.

I'd like to be able to filter purely on the .nl, .ru, .it etc. domains but it
won't let me.

I've created a rule to filter on specific text.

eg:

".ru" or ".nl"

as it appears in the dialog box. I don't know if this will work, though.

Which version of Outlook? 2003 and 2007 let you block top levels in tools,
options, junk email.

Use the method here: http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/rules.htm - use .ru
format, not just ru to reduce the risk of false positives. But I prefer to
do it by charset (to get what the junk filter for domains misses) - look for
words in the header and use the words that identify the charset.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" - for this chinese charset, I'd
look for GB2312 in the header.


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"Snapper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote...
>
>> yes, it should work. Either use delete it or move it to a different
>> folder
>> (can be deleted items or a folder you create to verify its working as
>> designed) then once you are sure its working, change it to delete or
>> permanently delete.
>
> Unfortunately the filter doesn't work. I am still receiving my own posts
> to that
> Yahoogroup in Outlook.
>
> It'd be handy if the Yahoogroup had an option "do not receive own posts".
>
> Another one. How do I filter on domains based on country?
>
> In the filter rules if I enter a domain it asks for the whole domain such
> as
> spamalot.com.it or spammers_r_us.co.uk or spammed.com.nl.
>
> I'd like to be able to filter purely on the .nl, .ru, .it etc. domains but
> it
> won't let me.
>
> I've created a rule to filter on specific text.
>
> eg:
>
> ".ru" or ".nl"
>
> as it appears in the dialog box. I don't know if this will work, though.
>

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote...

> Which version of Outlook? 2003 and 2007 let you block top levels in tools,
> options, junk email.

2003.

I'll check out the link below.

Thanks.


> Use the method here: http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/rules.htm - use .ru

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote...

> Use the method here: http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/rules.htm - use .ru

That appears to be for a whole domain. I want to filter on the country suffix,
not just the domain.

ie. ALL domains from Russia, the Netherlands, etc. to be filtered on.

> format, not just ru to reduce the risk of false positives. But I prefer to
> do it by charset (to get what the junk filter for domains misses) - look for
> words in the header and use the words that identify the charset.

That's another way. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to view the headers.
Outlook doesn't make it easy to do even the simplest things for those such as
myself who aren't rocket scientists.

I'll keep on looking.

Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote...

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" - for this chinese charset, I'd
> look for GB2312 in the header.

None of the current spate of spams that I'm getting have this. Below is a sample
with some info edited out.

Return-Path: <(E-Mail Removed)>
Delivered-To: (E-Mail Removed)
Received: from localhost (localhost.xxx.net.au [127.0.0.1])
by mail.xxx.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A236412DFA
for <(E-Mail Removed)>; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:23:47 +1000 (EST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xxx.net.au
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 3.595
X-Spam-Level: ***
X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.595 tagged_above=-999 required=7
tests=[DCC_CHECK=1.37, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.509,
RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=1.615, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1]
Received: from mail.xxx.net.au ([127.0.0.1])
by localhost (mail.xxx.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with LMTP id 59RYemTrTiqm for <(E-Mail Removed)>;
Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:23:42 +1000 (EST)
X-Greylist: delayed 00:05:02.416503 by SQLgrey-1.6.8
Received: from ptugc.arcor-ip.net (dslb-088-064-221-106.pools.arcor-ip.net
[88.64.221.106])
by mail.xxx.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id EF4B612DE2
for <(E-Mail Removed)>; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:23:41 +1000 (EST)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:23:40 +0000
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Snapper <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> That appears to be for a whole domain. I want to filter on the
> country suffix, not just the domain.
>
> ie. ALL domains from Russia, the Netherlands, etc. to be filtered on.

Actions>Junk E-mail>Junk E-mail Options>International>Blocked Top-Level
Domain List.
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so, just use the method to enter just the .ru part.

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"Snapper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote...
>
>> Use the method here: http://www.outlook-tips.net/howto/rules.htm - use
>> .ru
>
> That appears to be for a whole domain. I want to filter on the country
> suffix,
> not just the domain.
>
> ie. ALL domains from Russia, the Netherlands, etc. to be filtered on.
>
>> format, not just ru to reduce the risk of false positives. But I prefer
>> to
>> do it by charset (to get what the junk filter for domains misses) - look
>> for
>> words in the header and use the words that identify the charset.
>
> That's another way. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to view the
> headers.
> Outlook doesn't make it easy to do even the simplest things for those such
> as
> myself who aren't rocket scientists.
>
> I'll keep on looking.