I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe. It's
just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run as a
startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it fails I can
get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event id.

Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but only in
the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in the system
tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up the
application and use it.

I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get some sort
of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
Any ideas would be great?

How To Create a User-Defined Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890

How to Create a Windows Service Using Sc.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192

John

Gonzo wrote:

> I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe. It's
> just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run as a
> startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it fails I can
> get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event id.
>
> Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but only in
> the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in the system
> tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up the
> application and use it.
>
> I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get some sort
> of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
> Any ideas would be great?
>
>

I don't understand. I have already done this and created the service part,
as explained in the post.


"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e%(E-Mail Removed)...
> How To Create a User-Defined Service
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890
>
> How to Create a Windows Service Using Sc.exe
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192
>
> John
>
> Gonzo wrote:
>
>> I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe. It's
>> just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run as
>> a startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it fails
>> I can get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event id.
>>
>> Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but only
>> in the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in the
>> system tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up the
>> application and use it.
>>
>> I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get some
>> sort of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
>> Any ideas would be great?
>

Sorry, I misread your post. As far as I know that has to be done with
the Shell_NotifyIcon API function, it has to be programmed. I don't
know how to do that other than perhaps using a third party helper
application.

John

Gonzo wrote:

> I don't understand. I have already done this and created the service part,
> as explained in the post.
>
>
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:e%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>How To Create a User-Defined Service
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890
>>
>>How to Create a Windows Service Using Sc.exe
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192
>>
>>John
>>
>>Gonzo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe. It's
>>>just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run as
>>>a startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it fails
>>>I can get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event id.
>>>
>>>Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but only
>>>in the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in the
>>>system tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up the
>>>application and use it.
>>>
>>>I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get some
>>>sort of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
>>>Any ideas would be great?
>>
>
>

What is a Shell_NotifyIcon API function? The thing is if I just run the
application fromthe desktop it puts this icon in the system tray, but not if
run as a service...


"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ehfR$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry, I misread your post. As far as I know that has to be done with the
> Shell_NotifyIcon API function, it has to be programmed. I don't know how
> to do that other than perhaps using a third party helper application.
>
> John
>
> Gonzo wrote:
>
>> I don't understand. I have already done this and created the service
>> part, as explained in the post.
>>
>>
>> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:e%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>How To Create a User-Defined Service
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890
>>>
>>>How to Create a Windows Service Using Sc.exe
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>Gonzo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe. It's
>>>>just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run as
>>>>a startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it fails
>>>>I can get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event id.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but only
>>>>in the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in the
>>>>system tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up
>>>>the application and use it.
>>>>
>>>>I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get some
>>>>sort of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
>>>>Any ideas would be great?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Does this program have network access? Did you create the service with
srvany.exe? I seem to remember that the srvany.exe that came with NT4 had
the limitation that the service could be either interactive or have netwok
access, but not both. I think there was a work around for this but I don't
recall what it was.
Louis

"Gonzo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> What is a Shell_NotifyIcon API function? The thing is if I just run the
> application fromthe desktop it puts this icon in the system tray, but not
if
> run as a service...
>
>
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ehfR$$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Sorry, I misread your post. As far as I know that has to be done with
the
> > Shell_NotifyIcon API function, it has to be programmed. I don't know
how
> > to do that other than perhaps using a third party helper application.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Gonzo wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand. I have already done this and created the service
> >> part, as explained in the post.
> >>
> >>
> >> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:e%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >>>How To Create a User-Defined Service
> >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890
> >>>
> >>>How to Create a Windows Service Using Sc.exe
> >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>>Gonzo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe.
It's
> >>>>just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run
as
> >>>>a startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it
fails
> >>>>I can get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event
id.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but
only
> >>>>in the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in
the
> >>>>system tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up
> >>>>the application and use it.
> >>>>
> >>>>I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get
some
> >>>>sort of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
> >>>>Any ideas would be great?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Shell_NotifyIcon is used in programing, it's written in the program.
Did you set your service to start when the computer starts, aka
"Automatic" start? What happens if you start the service after the
computer is started and the desktop is loaded?

John

Gonzo wrote:
> What is a Shell_NotifyIcon API function? The thing is if I just run the
> application fromthe desktop it puts this icon in the system tray, but not if
> run as a service...
>
>
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ehfR$$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Sorry, I misread your post. As far as I know that has to be done with the
>>Shell_NotifyIcon API function, it has to be programmed. I don't know how
>>to do that other than perhaps using a third party helper application.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Gonzo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I don't understand. I have already done this and created the service
>>>part, as explained in the post.
>>>
>>>
>>>"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:e%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>>>How To Create a User-Defined Service
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890
>>>>
>>>>How to Create a Windows Service Using Sc.exe
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251192
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Gonzo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have an old application that just ran as by clicking on its exe. It's
>>>>>just goes into the system tray by the desktop clock. It's always run as
>>>>>a startup item, but I want to get it to run as a service, so if it fails
>>>>>I can get it to restart and have MOM 2005 alert me due to it's event id.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway I have created the service and the application starts up but only
>>>>>in the background "processes > task manager". It doesn't show up in the
>>>>>system tray. It has to be there so I can double click it to bring up
>>>>>the application and use it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I tried the "allow service to interact with the desktop" but I get some
>>>>>sort of error saying this is not supported. It's like a loop.
>>>>>Any ideas would be great?
>>>>
>>>
>
>