"Tony Meloche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> VanguardLH wrote:
>> SANTANDER wrote:
>>
>>> could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can works
>>> with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor, Intel
>>> 845GV chipset)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>> Did you check the CDs that came with the unidentified motherboard if a
>> monitor utility was included? Did you check the software downloads at
>> the unidentified motherboard maker's web site for a monitor utility
>> (that says it works with whatever model motherboard of theirs that you
>> have)?
>>
>> Check if the mobo maker has a monitor utility. If not, try using
>> Speedfan. Besides monitoring temperatures, you may be able to use it to
>> regulate your fan speeds to reduce noise.
>
>
> I use one called "HDMonitor". It is free, and come with another tool
> called "CPUID". The latter tool is a "use once and you know" thing, but
> the HWMonitor is excellent for telling you both CPU temp and HD temp.
>
> Web page: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>
> Tony
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my motherboard model is P4i45GV R3.0 I noticed that CPU temperatue is
57C/134F , CPU FAN speed 3695 RPM Is this normal temperature, or there may
be problems?
Does the hot temperature will affect on CPU life?


thanks

"Tony Meloche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> SANTANDER wrote:
>>
>> "Tony Meloche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> SANTANDER wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can
>>>>> works
>>>>> with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor,
>>>>> Intel
>>>>> 845GV chipset)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Did you check the CDs that came with the unidentified motherboard if a
>>>> monitor utility was included? Did you check the software downloads at
>>>> the unidentified motherboard maker's web site for a monitor utility
>>>> (that says it works with whatever model motherboard of theirs that you
>>>> have)?
>>>>
>>>> Check if the mobo maker has a monitor utility. If not, try using
>>>> Speedfan. Besides monitoring temperatures, you may be able to use it
>>>> to
>>>> regulate your fan speeds to reduce noise.
>>>
>>>
>>> I use one called "HDMonitor". It is free, and come with another tool
>>> called "CPUID". The latter tool is a "use once and you know" thing, but
>>> the HWMonitor is excellent for telling you both CPU temp and HD temp.
>>>
>>> Web page: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>>>
>>> Tony
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>>
>> my motherboard model is P4i45GV R3.0 I noticed that CPU temperatue is
>> 57C/134F , CPU FAN speed 3695 RPM Is this normal temperature, or there
>> may be problems?
>> Does the hot temperature will affect on CPU life?
>>
>>
>> thanks
>
>
> Fan speed seems about normal. CPU temp is specific to your CPU, though I
> can tell you that the newer CPU's are designed to run hotter - or perhaps
> I should say "run at higher normal temperatures" than the ones of a few
> years ago. I THINK the maximum sustained temp should not go above 150F,
> but I'd like to see you get advice from someone who knows that area more
> intimately than me. Running "hot", but within *normal parameters* should
> not shorten the CPU's life. But running excessively hot shortens the life
> of any electrical component, yes. It's a matter of what "excessive" is
> for your chip.
>
> Tony
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CPU type is Intel Celeron D 330, 2666 MHz (20 x 133) (Socket 478) 533MHz
256k
I find that critical temperature for this CPU is 67°C
So it definitelly run at higher normal temperature?

Thanks

You'll soon know if it's too hot, software'll start locking up.
Thermal design for Intel Celeron D 330 posibly is, 5-67 deg.C :-
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celeron_D/Intel-Celeron%20D%20330%20-%20RK80546RE067256%20-%20NE80546RE067256%20(BX80546RE2667C).html
....so you are near the upper lmit. Cooler would be better,
check and, if necessary, improve airflow through the case.
check cpu heatsink and fan are not clogged with dust, clean if necessary,
and make sure that the heatsink is correctly fitted. (If using compressed
air, (or an old "dedicated" Electrolux vaccum cleaner as I do - with pipe
connected to exhaust ! ), do not allow the fans to spin up and generate
damaging voltages !!!!
Perhaps remove cpu h/s and clean the mating surfaces and apply a fresh thin
film of good quality thermal paste.
If it's a stock h/s, consider replacing it with a better quality
copper/heatpipe design h/s + fan, they're quite cheap nowadays.
I had 38deg.C. at idle on my D935, and around 45deg.C. under load using the
stock Intel h/s and fan.
Now with a cheap Akasa triple heatpipe +fan idle temp. is 32deg.C. ...(alway
quite cool out here in office),
and when under load never gets anywhere near 45deg.C. as it did with the
stock cooler.

When I removed my Stock Intel h/s it was evident that the pre-applied paste
had not spread out sufficiently, i.e. it had remained too thick, and I
suspect the "paste" was acting a more as a heat barrier, rather than
complimenting or assisting heat transfer from cpu lid to the base of the
heatsink.

regards, Richard


"SANTANDER" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Tony Meloche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>> SANTANDER wrote:
>>>
>>>> could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can
>>>> works
>>>> with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor,
>>>> Intel
>>>> 845GV chipset)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Did you check the CDs that came with the unidentified motherboard if a
>>> monitor utility was included? Did you check the software downloads at
>>> the unidentified motherboard maker's web site for a monitor utility
>>> (that says it works with whatever model motherboard of theirs that you
>>> have)?
>>>
>>> Check if the mobo maker has a monitor utility. If not, try using
>>> Speedfan. Besides monitoring temperatures, you may be able to use it to
>>> regulate your fan speeds to reduce noise.
>>
>>
>> I use one called "HDMonitor". It is free, and come with another tool
>> called "CPUID". The latter tool is a "use once and you know" thing, but
>> the HWMonitor is excellent for telling you both CPU temp and HD temp.
>>
>> Web page: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>>
>> Tony
>>
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>
> my motherboard model is P4i45GV R3.0 I noticed that CPU temperatue is
> 57C/134F , CPU FAN speed 3695 RPM Is this normal temperature, or there
> may be problems?
> Does the hot temperature will affect on CPU life?
>
>
> thanks

On Apr 20, 10:18*pm, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
> RJK wrote:
> > ...having said that, Speedfan voltage reports are quite inaccurate. *For
> > example, it claims that my Seasonic psu 12v *rail is providing only 8.4
> > volts, which wildly disagrees with my voltmeter !!
> > Temperature reports are okay though, ...if you can work out which one is
> > which !
>
> How is it Speedfan's fault that a motherboard sensor reports an
> incorrect value? *Have you rebooted into the BIOS screens to see what
> voltages are listed in its health screen? *Have you tried using the
> monitor program that your motherboard maker provides to see if it is
> accurate or jibes with Speedfan?

If the sensors are not reporting the correct values, I would blame the
motherboard / sensor / chipset makers. They "feel" that their
"sensors" reporting method is proprietary information. Because of
this, they are extremely reluctant to let any other company know about
the method of getting the values accurately even if the other company
a non-disclosure clause (NDC???)

"RJK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e7l$(E-Mail Removed)...
> You'll soon know if it's too hot, software'll start locking up.
> Thermal design for Intel Celeron D 330 posibly is, 5-67 deg.C :-
> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celeron_D/Intel-Celeron%20D%20330%20-%20RK80546RE067256%20-%20NE80546RE067256%20(BX80546RE2667C).html
> ...so you are near the upper lmit. Cooler would be better,
> check and, if necessary, improve airflow through the case.
> check cpu heatsink and fan are not clogged with dust, clean if necessary,
> and make sure that the heatsink is correctly fitted. (If using compressed
> air, (or an old "dedicated" Electrolux vaccum cleaner as I do - with pipe
> connected to exhaust ! ), do not allow the fans to spin up and generate
> damaging voltages !!!!
> Perhaps remove cpu h/s and clean the mating surfaces and apply a fresh
> thin film of good quality thermal paste.
> If it's a stock h/s, consider replacing it with a better quality
> copper/heatpipe design h/s + fan, they're quite cheap nowadays.
> I had 38deg.C. at idle on my D935, and around 45deg.C. under load using
> the stock Intel h/s and fan.
> Now with a cheap Akasa triple heatpipe +fan idle temp. is 32deg.C.
> ...(alway quite cool out here in office),
> and when under load never gets anywhere near 45deg.C. as it did with the
> stock cooler.
>
> When I removed my Stock Intel h/s it was evident that the pre-applied
> paste had not spread out sufficiently, i.e. it had remained too thick, and
> I suspect the "paste" was acting a more as a heat barrier, rather than
> complimenting or assisting heat transfer from cpu lid to the base of the
> heatsink.
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "SANTANDER" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Tony Meloche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> SANTANDER wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can
>>>>> works
>>>>> with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor,
>>>>> Intel
>>>>> 845GV chipset)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Did you check the CDs that came with the unidentified motherboard if a
>>>> monitor utility was included? Did you check the software downloads at
>>>> the unidentified motherboard maker's web site for a monitor utility
>>>> (that says it works with whatever model motherboard of theirs that you
>>>> have)?
>>>>
>>>> Check if the mobo maker has a monitor utility. If not, try using
>>>> Speedfan. Besides monitoring temperatures, you may be able to use it
>>>> to
>>>> regulate your fan speeds to reduce noise.
>>>
>>>
>>> I use one called "HDMonitor". It is free, and come with another tool
>>> called "CPUID". The latter tool is a "use once and you know" thing, but
>>> the HWMonitor is excellent for telling you both CPU temp and HD temp.
>>>
>>> Web page: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
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>> ===================
>>
>> my motherboard model is P4i45GV R3.0 I noticed that CPU temperatue is
>> 57C/134F , CPU FAN speed 3695 RPM Is this normal temperature, or there
>> may be problems?
>> Does the hot temperature will affect on CPU life?
>>
>>
>> thanks
-------------

this will require completely disassembly of PC and removal of motherboard
in order to clean fan or replace thermal paste?
Does the fan rotation can damage the processor? When I cleaned an old
computer, the vacuum cleaner very strongly tightened air and the CPU fan
rotated.

Santander

My tips were clear, if you're not proficent or competent working with PC
hardware, I'd leave it alone, and take it to a reputable Pc shop !!!!

regards, Richard


"SANTANDER" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "RJK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:e7l$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> You'll soon know if it's too hot, software'll start locking up.
>> Thermal design for Intel Celeron D 330 posibly is, 5-67 deg.C :-
>> http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celeron_D/Intel-Celeron%20D%20330%20-%20RK80546RE067256%20-%20NE80546RE067256%20(BX80546RE2667C).html
>> ...so you are near the upper lmit. Cooler would be better,
>> check and, if necessary, improve airflow through the case.
>> check cpu heatsink and fan are not clogged with dust, clean if necessary,
>> and make sure that the heatsink is correctly fitted. (If using
>> compressed air, (or an old "dedicated" Electrolux vaccum cleaner as I
>> do - with pipe connected to exhaust ! ), do not allow the fans to spin up
>> and generate damaging voltages !!!!
>> Perhaps remove cpu h/s and clean the mating surfaces and apply a fresh
>> thin film of good quality thermal paste.
>> If it's a stock h/s, consider replacing it with a better quality
>> copper/heatpipe design h/s + fan, they're quite cheap nowadays.
>> I had 38deg.C. at idle on my D935, and around 45deg.C. under load using
>> the stock Intel h/s and fan.
>> Now with a cheap Akasa triple heatpipe +fan idle temp. is 32deg.C.
>> ...(alway quite cool out here in office),
>> and when under load never gets anywhere near 45deg.C. as it did with the
>> stock cooler.
>>
>> When I removed my Stock Intel h/s it was evident that the pre-applied
>> paste had not spread out sufficiently, i.e. it had remained too thick,
>> and I suspect the "paste" was acting a more as a heat barrier, rather
>> than complimenting or assisting heat transfer from cpu lid to the base of
>> the heatsink.
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>> "SANTANDER" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> "Tony Meloche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>> SANTANDER wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> could someone recommend a CPU temperature monitor utility that can
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> with Celeron 2.66GHz CPU (MB is Socket 478 for Intel P4 processor,
>>>>>> Intel
>>>>>> 845GV chipset)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you check the CDs that came with the unidentified motherboard if a
>>>>> monitor utility was included? Did you check the software downloads at
>>>>> the unidentified motherboard maker's web site for a monitor utility
>>>>> (that says it works with whatever model motherboard of theirs that you
>>>>> have)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Check if the mobo maker has a monitor utility. If not, try using
>>>>> Speedfan. Besides monitoring temperatures, you may be able to use it
>>>>> to
>>>>> regulate your fan speeds to reduce noise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use one called "HDMonitor". It is free, and come with another tool
>>>> called "CPUID". The latter tool is a "use once and you know" thing,
>>>> but the HWMonitor is excellent for telling you both CPU temp and HD
>>>> temp.
>>>>
>>>> Web page: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
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>>>> News==----
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>>> ===================
>>>
>>> my motherboard model is P4i45GV R3.0 I noticed that CPU temperatue is
>>> 57C/134F , CPU FAN speed 3695 RPM Is this normal temperature, or there
>>> may be problems?
>>> Does the hot temperature will affect on CPU life?
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
> -------------
>
> this will require completely disassembly of PC and removal of motherboard
> in order to clean fan or replace thermal paste?
> Does the fan rotation can damage the processor? When I cleaned an old
> computer, the vacuum cleaner very strongly tightened air and the CPU fan
> rotated.
>
> Santander

"smlunatick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:230e147b-fc44-4703-a4eb-(E-Mail Removed)...
On Apr 20, 10:18 pm, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
> RJK wrote:
> > ...having said that, Speedfan voltage reports are quite inaccurate. For
> > example, it claims that my Seasonic psu 12v rail is providing only 8.4
> > volts, which wildly disagrees with my voltmeter !!
> > Temperature reports are okay though, ...if you can work out which one is
> > which !
>
> How is it Speedfan's fault that a motherboard sensor reports an
> incorrect value? Have you rebooted into the BIOS screens to see what
> voltages are listed in its health screen? Have you tried using the
> monitor program that your motherboard maker provides to see if it is
> accurate or jibes with Speedfan?

If the sensors are not reporting the correct values, I would blame the
motherboard / sensor / chipset makers. They "feel" that their
"sensors" reporting method is proprietary information. Because of
this, they are extremely reluctant to let any other company know about
the method of getting the values accurately even if the other company
a non-disclosure clause (NDC???)


Actually speedfan has dividers/multipliers/reading modifiers so you can
change the output to some extent.

This is useful for when your CPU fan speed is reported at some obviously
incorrect speed.

Haven't poked around with voltage settings though, so I don't know what's
available.

....just the one !

regards, Richard


"VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> RJK wrote:
>
>> Whilst hunting around for a motherboard sensor chip program a while ago,
>> I
>> noticed lots of people commenting that Speedfan doesn't report the
>> correct
>> psu voltages. Other temp. reporting progs. did not recognize my Winbond
>> W83627EHG chip - Speedfan did. However, I was only interested in the
>> temperature reports
>>
>> My main PC with a Seasonic 430 watt SII psu in it - Bios screen:-
>> Vcore 1.264-256
>> +3.30 3.312 V
>> +5.00 5.112 V
>> +12.00 12.302-355...which all agree with a quality digital Voltmeter
>>
>> Speedfan:-
>> Vcore: 1.27 V
>> +12V: 8.45V
>> AVcc: 3.25V
>>
>> ...so it seems that Speedfan is getting it wrong ! :-)
>
> It's possible. Tables are used to lookup the output from the chips to
> determine what the mean. Looks like the sensor on your mobo doesn't
> have a table in Speedfan or it is using the wrong table. Same thing
> happens in the Motherboard Monitor (MBM) utility.
>
> You might want to go under Configure -> Advanced and see what sensors
> are listed in the Chip drop-down list.