I have just updated the drivers for my MSI K8T Neo mobo, updated my BIOS and
updated the MSI "CoreCenter" monitoring software.

CoreCenter and the BIOS both give me temperature readings for my CPU. Before
the updates the BIOS and CoreCenter reported my CPU as having temperatures
of between 39C and 51C depending on the room temp and what I was doing. This
seemed a fairly normal temperature and I was satisfied with it.

However since the updates my CPU temperature has went way down according to
this software. When I go into the BIOS it's reporting the temp as 19C. When
I'm sitting idle in Windows XP - as I am now - it's sitting at 13C! I tested
it by encoding a large MP3 and it went up to 27C after 5 mins of encoding.

I have CoolNQuiet (http://www.amdboard.com/coolnquiet.html) switched on and
an Athlon-64 3400 Clawhammer (2.2GHz) with a Arctic Cooling Silencer 64 fan.
Can this be real? I'm concerned that the temps are being misreported...

Jack wrote:
> I have just updated the drivers for my MSI K8T Neo mobo, updated my BIOS and
> updated the MSI "CoreCenter" monitoring software.
>
> CoreCenter and the BIOS both give me temperature readings for my CPU. Before
> the updates the BIOS and CoreCenter reported my CPU as having temperatures
> of between 39C and 51C depending on the room temp and what I was doing. This
> seemed a fairly normal temperature and I was satisfied with it.
>
> However since the updates my CPU temperature has went way down according to
> this software. When I go into the BIOS it's reporting the temp as 19C. When
> I'm sitting idle in Windows XP - as I am now - it's sitting at 13C! I tested
> it by encoding a large MP3 and it went up to 27C after 5 mins of encoding.
>
> I have CoolNQuiet (http://www.amdboard.com/coolnquiet.html) switched on and
> an Athlon-64 3400 Clawhammer (2.2GHz) with a Arctic Cooling Silencer 64 fan.
> Can this be real? I'm concerned that the temps are being misreported...
>
>

Have you checked the release notes for the BIOS and CoreCenter updates
that you installed? It could be that the old versions were misreporting
the temps.

Parish

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> Have you checked the release notes for the BIOS and CoreCenter updates
> that you installed? It could be that the old versions were misreporting
> the temps.

I just did and one of the fixes was a misreported CPU temperature.

Jack wrote:
> "Parish" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Have you checked the release notes for the BIOS and CoreCenter updates
>> that you installed? It could be that the old versions were misreporting
>> the temps.
>
> I just did and one of the fixes was a misreported CPU temperature.
>
>

Well AMD must have done some good design work with the 64 then if it
only hots 27C after 5 mins of MP3 encoding. Athlon XPs were very hot
chips - my dual MP2800s idle at 45-50 depending on room temp, although
they don't get much hotter when worked hard, thankfully :-)

Parish

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> Jack wrote:
>> "Parish" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> Have you checked the release notes for the BIOS and CoreCenter updates
>>> that you installed? It could be that the old versions were misreporting
>>> the temps.
>>
>> I just did and one of the fixes was a misreported CPU temperature.
>
> Well AMD must have done some good design work with the 64 then if it only
> hots 27C after 5 mins of MP3 encoding. Athlon XPs were very hot chips - my
> dual MP2800s idle at 45-50 depending on room temp, although they don't get
> much hotter when worked hard, thankfully :-)

Hence the reason for my concern. I previously had an Athlon XP 2000 and it
ran anywhere between 40C and 60C - therefore my new chip running at 13C is
worryingly low for me... I find it hard to believe it's correct.

"Jack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Parish" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> Have you checked the release notes for the BIOS and CoreCenter updates
>> that you installed? It could be that the old versions were misreporting
>> the temps.
>
> I just did and one of the fixes was a misreported CPU temperature.
Of all the PC's I've built, the only ones to consistently misreport temps
are the ones based on MSI boards!

SteveH

> Hence the reason for my concern. I previously had an Athlon XP 2000 and it
> ran anywhere between 40C and 60C - therefore my new chip running at 13C is
> worryingly low for me... I find it hard to believe it's correct.

What's your ambient temperature? If it's above 13°C (very likely) and you are
not using Peltier or phase change cooling then a false temperature reading is
the only possibility left I would say.

David

Jack wrote:

> "Parish" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Jack wrote:
> >> "Parish" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >
> >>> Have you checked the release notes for the BIOS and CoreCenter
> updates >>> that you installed? It could be that the old versions
> were misreporting >>> the temps.
> > >
> >> I just did and one of the fixes was a misreported CPU temperature.
>
> >
> > Well AMD must have done some good design work with the 64 then if
> > it only hots 27C after 5 mins of MP3 encoding. Athlon XPs were very
> > hot chips - my dual MP2800s idle at 45-50 depending on room temp,
> > although they don't get much hotter when worked hard, thankfully :-)
>
> Hence the reason for my concern. I previously had an Athlon XP 2000
> and it ran anywhere between 40C and 60C - therefore my new chip
> running at 13C is worryingly low for me... I find it hard to believe
> it's correct.

You're not the only one! I've got a 64 3500 on an Abit AV8 which idles
at 36C with Cool'n'Quiet clocking the multiplier at 5. Under load it
goes up to 68C. That's with a fairly mild overclock of 216FSB & all
voltages at their standard settings. Abit & MSI must read the temps in
very different ways...

One thing that threw me when I first started using Cool'n'Quiet was how
some apps didn't make the temps go up despite causing 100% CPU usage.
Then I discovered that the multiplier stays at 5 if the app uses a task
priority of 'Low'.

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>> Hence the reason for my concern. I previously had an Athlon XP 2000 and
>> it
>> ran anywhere between 40C and 60C - therefore my new chip running at 13C
>> is
>> worryingly low for me... I find it hard to believe it's correct.
>
> What's your ambient temperature?

Above 13C.

> If it's above 13°C (very likely) and you are
> not using Peltier or phase change cooling then a false temperature reading
> is
> the only possibility left I would say.

Yeah. I'll look out for another BIOS update then...

On 30 Jan 2005 11:14:01 GMT, "Jack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have CoolNQuiet (http://www.amdboard.com/coolnquiet.html)

Anything like this for a none 64 Bit Xp chip, I'd love to get mine
down a bit in the shuttle ?

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