Hi

I always find leaving the heatsink from a cpu a little worrying! Maybe I am
doing it wrong but following the instructions that come with the basic amd
xp hsf, I seem to need to put a lot of force on the spring clip to get it to
engage, it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip or i will
be damaging the motherboard by flexing it too much. It also seems that to
check the cpu hs compound on my a7n8x + Aopen h600 case i will need to
remove the motherboard

Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any chance
of it being quiet and good at cooling too?

Thanks
D

DS wrote:
> Hi
>
> I always find leaving the heatsink from a cpu a little worrying! Maybe I am
> doing it wrong but following the instructions that come with the basic amd
> xp hsf, I seem to need to put a lot of force on the spring clip to get it to
> engage, it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip

That's usually very bad (it's happened to me)

> or i will
> be damaging the motherboard by flexing it too much.

You can buy a thick and soft static matt and place the motherboard on
this. Then install the CPU. Do NOT install it on a motherboard already
mounted inside a case. Take the board OUT.

> It also seems that to
> check the cpu hs compound on my a7n8x + Aopen h600 case i will need to
> remove the motherboard

Why do you need to check this?

>
> Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any chance
> of it being quiet and good at cooling too?
>
> Thanks
> D
>
>
>
>


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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 09:23:01 +0100, DS wrote:

> Hi
>
> I always find leaving the heatsink from a cpu a little worrying! Maybe I am
> doing it wrong but following the instructions that come with the basic amd
> xp hsf, I seem to need to put a lot of force on the spring clip to get it to
> engage, it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip or i will
> be damaging the motherboard by flexing it too much. It also seems that to
> check the cpu hs compound on my a7n8x + Aopen h600 case i will need to
> remove the motherboard
>
> Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any chance
> of it being quiet and good at cooling too?
>
TR2-M1 (or M3, not M2). Cheap, under $10. Quiet, 21dba. Rated for up to
3400+. 3 prong clip that doesn't take much force to install and it has a
non slip slot for the screwdriver. So, it's cheap, quiet, performs very
good, and is easy to install. That makes it rate up at the top IMO.

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> it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip

That happened to me about three times while building a computer at work.
Fortunately, the MSI K7N2 motherboard kept the area of the board below
the heatsink clip free of components and traces. Good design move on
their part, if you ask me.

FWIW, and I apologize if this is obvious, but installing the CPU/HSF
before mounting the motherboard in the case will reduce flexing.

> Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any chance
> of it being quiet and good at cooling too?


Spire heatsinks have captive screwdriver recesses on mounting spring ends,
so it is impossible to slip screwdriver from spring and strike motherboard.
Screwdriver is used like a tyre spoon, to easily guide (with leverage)
mounting spring opening onto socket lug.
Kind regards!
Tadeusz

"DS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:chbu0o$3gr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> I always find leaving the heatsink from a cpu a little worrying! Maybe I
am
> doing it wrong but following the instructions that come with the basic amd
> xp hsf, I seem to need to put a lot of force on the spring clip to get it
to
> engage, it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip or i
will
> be damaging the motherboard by flexing it too much. It also seems that to
> check the cpu hs compound on my a7n8x + Aopen h600 case i will need to
> remove the motherboard
>
> Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any chance
> of it being quiet and good at cooling too?
>
> Thanks
> D
I'm sure this may draw fire, but it has worked for me. First, I remove
the spring, & bend it just a tad--lay it sideways on a piece of paper & mark
the original angle; then carefully bend it "flatter" so it won't take so
much force. Second,to protect the mobo from flexing, I use a piece of paper
towel, folded several times, & slide it under the mobo in an area that will
support the mobo from downward force when attaching hs/fan. Third, I took
a credit card & cut it so that it would just fit on top of the mobo to
hopefully catch the tip of the tool using to attach the clip. (I saw this
3rd idea of using a credit card posted on one of the newsgroups some months
back.) HTH & good luck, s

sdlomi2 wrote:

> "DS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:chbu0o$3gr$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I always find leaving the heatsink from a cpu a little worrying! Maybe I
>
> am
>
>>doing it wrong but following the instructions that come with the basic amd
>>xp hsf, I seem to need to put a lot of force on the spring clip to get it
>
> to
>
>>engage, it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip or i
>
> will
>
>>be damaging the motherboard by flexing it too much. It also seems that to
>>check the cpu hs compound on my a7n8x + Aopen h600 case i will need to
>>remove the motherboard
>>
>>Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any chance
>>of it being quiet and good at cooling too?
>>
>>Thanks
>>D
>
> I'm sure this may draw fire, but it has worked for me. First, I remove
> the spring, & bend it just a tad--lay it sideways on a piece of paper & mark
> the original angle; then carefully bend it "flatter" so it won't take so
> much force. Second,to protect the mobo from flexing, I use a piece of paper
> towel, folded several times, & slide it under the mobo in an area that will
> support the mobo from downward force when attaching hs/fan. Third, I took
> a credit card & cut it so that it would just fit on top of the mobo to
> hopefully catch the tip of the tool using to attach the clip. (I saw this
> 3rd idea of using a credit card posted on one of the newsgroups some months
> back.) HTH & good luck, s

You do realize there's a reason for the spring force on those things, right?

David Maynard <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> You do realize there's a reason for the spring force on those things, right?

To put out an eye?

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"David Maynard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> sdlomi2 wrote:
>
> > "DS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:chbu0o$3gr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I always find leaving the heatsink from a cpu a little worrying! Maybe I
> >
> > am
> >
> >>doing it wrong but following the instructions that come with the basic
amd
> >>xp hsf, I seem to need to put a lot of force on the spring clip to get
it
> >
> > to
> >
> >>engage, it always worries me that either my screwdriver will slip or i
> >
> > will
> >
> >>be damaging the motherboard by flexing it too much. It also seems that
to
> >>check the cpu hs compound on my a7n8x + Aopen h600 case i will need to
> >>remove the motherboard
> >>
> >>Is there a hsf that has an easier way of connecting to the cpu? Any
chance
> >>of it being quiet and good at cooling too?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>D
> >
> > I'm sure this may draw fire, but it has worked for me. First, I
remove
> > the spring, & bend it just a tad--lay it sideways on a piece of paper &
mark
> > the original angle; then carefully bend it "flatter" so it won't take so
> > much force. Second,to protect the mobo from flexing, I use a piece of
paper
> > towel, folded several times, & slide it under the mobo in an area that
will
> > support the mobo from downward force when attaching hs/fan. Third, I
took
> > a credit card & cut it so that it would just fit on top of the mobo to
> > hopefully catch the tip of the tool using to attach the clip. (I saw
this
> > 3rd idea of using a credit card posted on one of the newsgroups some
months
> > back.) HTH & good luck, s
>
> You do realize there's a reason for the spring force on those things,
right?
>
>
> Yes, and thanks for pointing that out to me. I just cannot see how
they justify as much force as is put on some. On the ones I've done, they
seem plenty tight when I finish; however, noticeably easier to install. And
I've watched the temps closely when 1st using them to ensure that parameter
is still quite in line.
I'm open to any differing opinions. Heaven knows I don't wish to lose
ANOTHER cpu to an inadequate h/s-fan. BTW, the only one I have felt the
need to loosen was the Vantec Aeroflow 7040 for AMD. I honestly think they
could re-design their clips with 25-30% less force and do just as good a
job--as long as we use a good h/s compound. s

Ronald Cole wrote:

> David Maynard <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>>You do realize there's a reason for the spring force on those things, right?
>
>
> To put out an eye?
>

Of course. It's all a vast conspiracy to destroy you along with the
motherboard and processor.

But back to reality, thermal transfer increases with increased contact
pressure, and that's why modern heatsinks have higher spring pressure for
the higher power CPUs.