I wasn't expecting the damn cpu to come out with the heatsink. The cpu
retention arm was still secure afterward.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3320/1000362t.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/97/1000363yr.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9982/1000364g.jpg

That old grease was like dried molassas.

ShadowTek wrote:
> I wasn't expecting the damn cpu to come out with the heatsink. The cpu
> retention arm was still secure afterward.
> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3320/1000362t.jpg
> http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/97/1000363yr.jpg
> http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9982/1000364g.jpg
>
> That old grease was like dried molassas.

Heating up the CPU, before you pull it, sometimes helps.

Followed by, a little bit of a twisting motion, to try to "break
the vacuum".

I've pulled one out like that before, and it didn't seem
to damage the socket at all. ZIFs (zero insertion force)
seem to be a pretty good socket concept. Never had a problem.

Paul

ShadowTek wrote:

> I wasn't expecting the damn cpu to come out with the heatsink. The cpu
> retention arm was still secure afterward.

ZIF (zero insertion force) sockets are designed for no insertion force
to *insert* the processor. They are NOT intended to be used as
permament sockets to forcibly retain the chip in the socket. The chip
is not somehow automagically soldered into the socket when the arm is
locked in place. They do not somehow lock the chip into the socket. It
is just /friction/ against the pins when the arm is locked down to hold
the chip in the socket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_insertion_force

A "zero insertion force socket" is not a "high extraction force" socket.

> That old grease was like dried molassas.

Some users, jobbers, or companies use thermal *adhesive* instead of
thermal paste. Either they don't know the difference or they really did
want a permanent attachment of the heatsink on the chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_adhesive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_grease

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, ShadowTek <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I wasn't expecting the damn cpu to come out with the heatsink. The cpu
>retention arm was still secure afterward.
>http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3320/1000362t.jpg
>http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/97/1000363yr.jpg
>http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9982/1000364g.jpg
>
>That old grease was like dried molassas.
Is that cigarette smoke and tar in the heatsink?

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:59:39 GMT, (E-Mail Removed)
(GMAN) wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, ShadowTek <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>I wasn't expecting the damn cpu to come out with the heatsink. The cpu
>>retention arm was still secure afterward.
>>http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3320/1000362t.jpg
>>http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/97/1000363yr.jpg
>>http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9982/1000364g.jpg
>>
>>That old grease was like dried molassas.
>Is that cigarette smoke and tar in the heatsink?

And what are those two tubes?

On 2010-09-30, Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> Followed by, a little bit of a twisting motion, to try to "break
> the vacuum".

The heatsink retainer squared in the hs in suck a way that I could only
get about a milimeter of twist in either direction.

That damn heatsink retainer is a joke. It only has two little lips on
either side to keep the hs from falling out. Even with it fully engaged,
it's so loose that you can still twist it back and forth for that mm or
so.

> I've pulled one out like that before, and it didn't seem
> to damage the socket at all.

After replacing the grease (the pupose of the exercise), I loaded both
cores with burnK6 and never got any errors.

On 2010-09-30, GMAN <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Is that cigarette smoke and tar in the heatsink?

Yep lol

When I first got it home and turned it on, the fans filled my house with that
particular oder in a short time.

I had the clean the case, the inside of the power supply, and every
single fan blade with alchohol, paper towels, and cotton swabs. That tar
was drying up and flaking off on my worktable (tv tray), and I kept
laughing because it looked just like I was cleaning out a big ass bong.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, ShadowTek <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On 2010-09-30, GMAN <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Is that cigarette smoke and tar in the heatsink?
>
>Yep lol
>
>When I first got it home and turned it on, the fans filled my house with that
>particular oder in a short time.
>
>I had the clean the case, the inside of the power supply, and every
>single fan blade with alchohol, paper towels, and cotton swabs. That tar
>was drying up and flaking off on my worktable (tv tray), and I kept
>laughing because it looked just like I was cleaning out a big ass bong.
LOL!!! In the situation you were in, i would have just ran the case through
the dishwasher. Empty of course.

And manually cleaned off the motherboard and drives.