(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> This should have been included in service pack 2. We
> already payed $200 for windows XP pro, we shouldn't have
> to pay any more.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>free until at least June (or was that July?)
>>After that MS hasn't decided yet whether they will
>
> charge a fee or offer
>
>>this service for free.
>>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>
> message
>
>>news:0e6e01c4f40e$f40c68f0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Does anyone know if the versons after beta will be free
>>>as well?
>>
>>
>>.
>>

IMHO

It should be part of the Security Center (sic) on Windows XP SP 2.5...

Perhaps along with the forthcoming MS Anti Virus package!

I have to disagree with you, I hardly would call this
"Great". I say be weary of any beta, let alone one from
Microsoft.

"Spybot and AdAware will not be true competitors unless
they get a major upgrade. Most of the new spyware is not
detected or removed by them. Many of you are going to be
very surprised when you get a look at all the things on
your computer that the free scanners missed."

This Beta is free of charge yet you put down Spybot and AA
but you call Microsoft's Great? I franky like removing
spyware manually and then running one of those to remove
extra junk that doesn't really do much except for take up
space. So I say, do a search to remove what you are
infected with and remove manually and then run a scanner of
your choice.


>-----Original Message-----
>
>"Interested" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message
>news:005201c4f420$b6591a00$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> They should in order to keep it competitive with already
>> free produces like Ad-Aware (basic) and Spybot.
>
>Spybot and AdAware will not be true competitors unless
they get a major
>upgrade. Most of the new spyware is not detected or
removed by them. Many
>of you are going to be very surprised when you get a look
at all the things
>on your computer that the free scanners missed.
>
>The spyware detection/removal field is very fluid right
now. I doubt
>whether Microsoft knows exactly what it will do in June or
July.
>
>Sunbelt says they may make their product, CounterSpy,
which is a clone of
>the Microsoft product, free for home users but sell the
enterprise version.
>They seem to have co ownership (?) of the antispyware code
until 2007 (?).
>
>Anyway 6 months is 2 internet years. Who knows what will
happen.
>
>We have been given a great gift by Microsoft. Use it.
>
>{don}
>
>
>.
>

Aww man Mark, that would be like asking for the moon-----But it would indeed
be great

--
Lee Nichols [550991]
"Mark Gendall" <markgendall@_DELETETHIS_hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> This should have been included in service pack 2. We already payed $200
>> for windows XP pro, we shouldn't have to pay any more.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>free until at least June (or was that July?)
>>>After that MS hasn't decided yet whether they will
>>
>> charge a fee or offer
>>>this service for free.
>>>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>
>> message
>>>news:0e6e01c4f40e$f40c68f0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>>Does anyone know if the versons after beta will be free
>>>>as well?
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
> IMHO
>
> It should be part of the Security Center (sic) on Windows XP SP 2.5...
>
> Perhaps along with the forthcoming MS Anti Virus package!

In article <005201c4f420$b6591a00$(E-Mail Removed)>, Interested wrote:
> They should in order to keep it competitive with already
> free produces like Ad-Aware (basic) and Spybot.

M$ doesn't "compete" with free products. They don't need to have
anti-spyware working in order to sell Windows. It may be usable to sell
upgrades, but not neccessary to selling Windows. If they include it free,
are they just trying to put everyone else out? Spybot is developed by a
team of people who do the work in their free time and while it's a great
product, has it's flaws and one cannot readily complain to the people
donating their time.

What I'd like to see is the Anti-Spyware package included in the Pro
version of the software. Although this is unlikely, in a corporate
environment, this sort of thing is really needed yet difficult to manage.
It would give home users an incentive to upgrade.

(Damn, I should work in marketing.)

--
Seth H Holmes
My sig file is not longer than my response

Just had to say "Hi" to my friend Lee. Good to see you are still around.
This winter is eating up my coal supply. Any chance of a shipment soon?

"Lee Nichols" <annomus@discussion> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Aww man Mark, that would be like asking for the moon-----But it would
> indeed be great
>
> --
> Lee Nichols [550991]
> "Mark Gendall" <markgendall@_DELETETHIS_hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>> This should have been included in service pack 2. We already payed $200
>>> for windows XP pro, we shouldn't have to pay any more.
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>free until at least June (or was that July?)
>>>>After that MS hasn't decided yet whether they will
>>>
>>> charge a fee or offer
>>>>this service for free.
>>>>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>>
>>> message
>>>>news:0e6e01c4f40e$f40c68f0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know if the versons after beta will be free
>>>>>as well?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>
>> IMHO
>>
>> It should be part of the Security Center (sic) on Windows XP SP 2.5...
>>
>> Perhaps along with the forthcoming MS Anti Virus package!
>
>

I agree. Thanks again, MSFT!
"{don}" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Interested" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:005201c4f420$b6591a00$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> They should in order to keep it competitive with already
>> free produces like Ad-Aware (basic) and Spybot.
>
> Spybot and AdAware will not be true competitors unless they get a major
> upgrade. Most of the new spyware is not detected or removed by them.
> Many
> of you are going to be very surprised when you get a look at all the
> things
> on your computer that the free scanners missed.
>
> The spyware detection/removal field is very fluid right now. I doubt
> whether Microsoft knows exactly what it will do in June or July.
>
> Sunbelt says they may make their product, CounterSpy, which is a clone of
> the Microsoft product, free for home users but sell the enterprise
> version.
> They seem to have co ownership (?) of the antispyware code until 2007 (?).
>
> Anyway 6 months is 2 internet years. Who knows what will happen.
>
> We have been given a great gift by Microsoft. Use it.
>
> {don}
>
>