Which of those USB drives would you go for for use with Linux, if it
really matters:


USB2 CORSAIR 4096MB FLASH DRIVE $69.00 (CAN)


Storage Capacity 4 GB
Compatibility Non-specific
Interface Type Hi-Speed USB
Features Waterproof
Expansion / Connectivity
Interfaces 1 x USB - 4 pin USB Type A
Miscellaneous
Included Accessories USB cable, lanyard
Compliant Standards Plug and Play
Software / System Requirements
Software Included Drivers & Utilities
OS Required Apple MacOS X / MacOS 9, Linux 2.4 or later, Microsoft
Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
Service & Support 10 years warranty


DRIVE USB2 KINGSTON 4096MB DT $59.00 (CAN)


Storage Capacity 4 GB
Compatibility Non-specific
Interface Type Hi-Speed USB
Expansion / Connectivity
Interfaces 1 x Hi-Speed USB - 4 pin USB Type A
Software / System Requirements
OS Required Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP SP1 or later,
Apple MacOS X 10.x or later, Microsoft Windows Vista
Service & Support 5 years warranty
Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 5 years

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:48:51 -0500, Yugo wrote:

> Which of those USB drives would you go for for use with Linux, if it
> really matters:
>
>
> USB2 CORSAIR 4096MB FLASH DRIVE $69.00 (CAN)
>
>
> Storage Capacity 4 GB
> Compatibility Non-specific
> Interface Type Hi-Speed USB
> Features Waterproof
> Expansion / Connectivity
> Interfaces 1 x USB - 4 pin USB Type A
> Miscellaneous
> Included Accessories USB cable, lanyard
> Compliant Standards Plug and Play
> Software / System Requirements
> Software Included Drivers & Utilities
> OS Required Apple MacOS X / MacOS 9, Linux 2.4 or later, Microsoft
> Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
> Service & Support 10 years warranty
>
>
> DRIVE USB2 KINGSTON 4096MB DT $59.00 (CAN)
>
>
> Storage Capacity 4 GB
> Compatibility Non-specific
> Interface Type Hi-Speed USB
> Expansion / Connectivity
> Interfaces 1 x Hi-Speed USB - 4 pin USB Type A
> Software / System Requirements
> OS Required Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP SP1 or later,
> Apple MacOS X 10.x or later, Microsoft Windows Vista
> Service & Support 5 years warranty
> Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 5 years

So what's the problem - $10 is $10.

Yugo wrote:
> Which of those USB drives would you go for for use with Linux, if it
> really matters:
>

Either should be fine. I think Kingston is a better brand but that is
only my opinion...

Yugo wrote:

> Which of those USB drives would you go for for use with Linux, if it
> really matters:
>
>
> USB2 CORSAIR 4096MB FLASH DRIVE $69.00 (CAN)

> Features Waterproof

> OS Required Apple MacOS X / MacOS 9, Linux 2.4 or later, Microsoft
> Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
> Service & Support 10 years warranty
>
>
> DRIVE USB2 KINGSTON 4096MB DT $59.00 (CAN)

> OS Required Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP SP1 or later,
> Apple MacOS X 10.x or later, Microsoft Windows Vista
> Service & Support 5 years warranty

I don't think that it matters, but you may want to find out which USB-
flash interface chip each one uses. I suspect that the Corsair uses
an NEC chip because of the support for Windows 98, and NEC USB chips
seem to be among the least troublesome as far as compatibility goes.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:48:51 -0500, Yugo
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Which of those USB drives would you go for for use with Linux, if it
>really matters:
>
>
>USB2 CORSAIR 4096MB FLASH DRIVE $69.00 (CAN)
>
>
>Storage Capacity 4 GB
>Compatibility Non-specific
>Interface Type Hi-Speed USB
>Features Waterproof
>Expansion / Connectivity
>Interfaces 1 x USB - 4 pin USB Type A
>Miscellaneous
>Included Accessories USB cable, lanyard
>Compliant Standards Plug and Play
>Software / System Requirements
>Software Included Drivers & Utilities
>OS Required Apple MacOS X / MacOS 9, Linux 2.4 or later, Microsoft
>Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
>Service & Support 10 years warranty
>
>
>DRIVE USB2 KINGSTON 4096MB DT $59.00 (CAN)
>
>
>Storage Capacity 4 GB
>Compatibility Non-specific
>Interface Type Hi-Speed USB
>Expansion / Connectivity
>Interfaces 1 x Hi-Speed USB - 4 pin USB Type A
>Software / System Requirements
>OS Required Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP SP1 or later,
>Apple MacOS X 10.x or later, Microsoft Windows Vista
>Service & Support 5 years warranty
>Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 5 years

You left out the most important detail - the rated read and
write speeds. If the manufacturers don't even list the read
and write speeds, assume they are incredibly slow compared
to most modern USB drives, and that you should find another
alternative that has a good write speed (since write speed
is a larger variable, some may have similar read speeds but
writing may be a larger difference among different drives).

For a 4GB drive, those prices look high but I realize that's
Canadian $, what does it translate into in USD?

If the exchange rate is around 1.55:1, in the US we can get
a 4GB drive with 15MB/s write for about $34 after rebate
which is about $40 CAN?.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227145

I would use that as a reference point, plus with a drive
that large it would take quite a long time to utilize all
that space if the write and read speeds aren't fairly high.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 02:58:56 -0400, kony <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:


>If the exchange rate is around 1.55:1, in the US we can get
>a 4GB drive with 15MB/s write for about $34 after rebate
>which is about $40 CAN?.

Edit: meant exchange rate of 1.15:1

Yugo <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> kony wrote:
>
>> You left out the most important detail - the rated read and write
>> speeds.
>
> Aren't they standard for USB2 ?

You're thinking of the interface speed. The read/write speed of the
actual chips can be much lower.

Another thing to look at is the actual capacities of the units. The
real storage capacity is usually 10-15% under the labeled amount, even
if 1k=1000.

--
Måns Rullgård
(E-Mail Removed)

kony wrote:

> You left out the most important detail - the rated read and
> write speeds.

Aren't they standard for USB2 ?

> If the exchange rate is around 1.55:1, in the US we can get
> a 4GB drive with 15MB/s write for about $34 after rebate
> which is about $40 CAN?.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227145

It's not Corsair or Kingston, tough.

larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> Yugo wrote:
>
>
>>Which of those USB drives would you go for for use with Linux, if it
>>really matters:
>>
>>
>>USB2 CORSAIR 4096MB FLASH DRIVE $69.00 (CAN)
>
>
>>Features Waterproof
>
>
>>OS Required Apple MacOS X / MacOS 9, Linux 2.4 or later, Microsoft
>>Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
>>Service & Support 10 years warranty
>>
>>
>>DRIVE USB2 KINGSTON 4096MB DT $59.00 (CAN)
>
>
>>OS Required Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP SP1 or later,
>>Apple MacOS X 10.x or later, Microsoft Windows Vista
>>Service & Support 5 years warranty
>
>
> I don't think that it matters, but you may want to find out which USB-
> flash interface chip each one uses. I suspect that the Corsair uses
> an NEC chip because of the support for Windows 98, and NEC USB chips
> seem to be among the least troublesome as far as compatibility goes.

To tell the truth, I'm not very interested in Win98 compatibility. I'd
rather keep $10 in my pocket.

Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Yugo <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>
>>kony wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You left out the most important detail - the rated read and write
>>>speeds.
>>
>>Aren't they standard for USB2 ?
>
>
> You're thinking of the interface speed. The read/write speed of the
> actual chips can be much lower.

Oopsie, daisy, I didn't knwo that. I'll check. What is considered a
good R/W spped ?

> Another thing to look at is the actual capacities of the units. The
> real storage capacity is usually 10-15% under the labeled amount, even
> if 1k=1000.

1k=1000 bytes seems pretty standard... for disks now, but how is the
additional 10-15% justified?