For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a " Copying"
window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they passed
19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
"windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I do
have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt folders.dbx
file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)

After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing it
now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a
copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ? I'm
asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's related to
the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a
problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs or
the biggest messages I should delete ?

Thanks for any pointers

- Bobb - wrote:
> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a " Copying"
> window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they passed
> 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
> "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I do
> have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt folders.dbx
> file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)
>
> After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing it
> now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a
> copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ? I'm
> asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's related to
> the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a
> problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs or
> the biggest messages I should delete ?
>
> Thanks for any pointers

It's an update for Outlook Express. If you look in the recycle bin, you
will see a bunch of .bak files, which are back ups for your messages.

That said, do not store messages in any of the default folders such as
Inbox or Sent Items. Create new folders for storage.

Alias

Thanks Alias for adding to my knowledge on this latest change. Given
the size of dbx files it emphasises the need to empty the recycle bin
after compacting and defragment.
--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alias wrote:
> - Bobb - wrote:
>> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
>> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
>> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a "
>> Copying" window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb
>> so they passed 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to
>> a recent XP "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which
>> I feared. I do have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a
>> corrupt folders.dbx file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild
>> the
>> nested structures.) After compaction , everything is OK, but
>> wondering ... why seeing it
>> now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make
>> a
>> copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ?
>> I'm asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's
>> related to the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size
>> ? Is it a problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it
>> # of msgs or the biggest messages I should delete ?
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers
>
> It's an update for Outlook Express. If you look in the recycle bin,
> you will see a bunch of .bak files, which are back ups for your
> messages.
> That said, do not store messages in any of the default folders such
> as
> Inbox or Sent Items. Create new folders for storage.
>
> Alias

See the Notes section of http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 for an
explanation of sorts.

Also see http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


- Bobb - wrote:
> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a " Copying"
> window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they passed
> 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
> "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I do
> have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt folders.dbx
> file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)
>
> After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing it
> now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a
> copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ? I'm
> asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's related to
> the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a
> problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs or
> the biggest messages I should delete ?
>
> Thanks for any pointers

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
That had it exactly - thanks very much.
Do you folks get a "Copying box" for each folder or only on "big ones"
?
I get it only on those 3 .

PS re the auto-compact every 100 times ... several times I have done
"compact all folders" manually and when I exited , or later that day,
was prompted with the prompt to "autocompact ?". So, in spite of what
the article said, I can tell you from experience (XP SP2 - up to date
with updates) that the counter must not get reset immediately -
otherwise that would not have happened to me - several times. Maybe it's
at shutdown time ???

Thanks again - at least now I know it's not just me.
Bobb


"PA Bear" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> See the Notes section of http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 for
> an explanation of sorts.
>
> Also see http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>
>
> - Bobb - wrote:
>> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
>> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
>> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a "
>> Copying"
>> window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they
>> passed
>> 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
>> "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I
>> do
>> have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt
>> folders.dbx
>> file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)
>>
>> After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing it
>> now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a
>> copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ?
>> I'm
>> asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's related
>> to
>> the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a
>> problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs
>> or
>> the biggest messages I should delete ?
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers
>

I don't always see the copying message. It might be based on how long
the copying is taking or expected to take as to whether or not it is
displayed.

When was the last time you got the compact prompt after recently doing a
manual compact? The change to reset the counter on a compact all
folders is new.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
> That had it exactly - thanks very much.
> Do you folks get a "Copying box" for each folder or only on "big
> ones" ?
> I get it only on those 3 .
>
> PS re the auto-compact every 100 times ... several times I have done
> "compact all folders" manually and when I exited , or later that day,
> was prompted with the prompt to "autocompact ?". So, in spite of what
> the article said, I can tell you from experience (XP SP2 - up to date
> with updates) that the counter must not get reset immediately -
> otherwise that would not have happened to me - several times. Maybe
> it's at shutdown time ???
>
> Thanks again - at least now I know it's not just me.
> Bobb
>
>
> "PA Bear" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> See the Notes section of http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069
>> for an explanation of sorts.
>>
>> Also see http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>
>>
>> - Bobb - wrote:
>>> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
>>> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
>>> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a "
>>> Copying"
>>> window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they
>>> passed
>>> 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
>>> "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I
>>> do
>>> have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt
>>> folders.dbx
>>> file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)
>>>
>>> After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing
>>> it
>>> now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a
>>> copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ?
>>> I'm
>>> asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's
>>> related to
>>> the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a
>>> problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs
>>> or
>>> the biggest messages I should delete ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any pointers
>>
>

- Bobb - wrote:
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
> That had it exactly - thanks very much.

YW.

> Do you folks get a "Copying box" for each folder or only on "big ones"?
> I get it only on those 3.

The number of Copying boxes one seex appears to depend on the overall size
of your message store. I'm pretty sure I've seen more than 3 on several
occasions.

> PS re the auto-compact every 100 times ... several times I have done
> "compact all folders" manually and when I exited , or later that day,
> was prompted with the prompt to "autocompact ?". So, in spite of what
> the article said, I can tell you from experience (XP SP2 - up to date
> with updates) that the counter must not get reset immediately -
> otherwise that would not have happened to me - several times. Maybe it's
> at shutdown time ???

When did you install 923694? Have you seen the autocompact prompt since (1)
installing 923694 and (2) after having compacted manually at least once?
--
~PA Bear

> "PA Bear" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> See the Notes section of http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 for
>> an explanation of sorts.
>>
>> Also see http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>
>>
>> - Bobb - wrote:
>>> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems
>>> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files
>>> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a "
>>> Copying"
>>> window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they
>>> passed
>>> 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
>>> "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I
>>> do
>>> have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt
>>> folders.dbx
>>> file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)
>>>
>>> After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing it
>>> now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a
>>> copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ?
>>> I'm
>>> asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's related
>>> to
>>> the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a
>>> problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs
>>> or
>>> the biggest messages I should delete ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any pointers

Bear

The time taken by each copying flash on my machine is variable. I
think I get more than 3, probably because my newsgroup folders are
large containing all bodies and up to 6 weeks messages.

Bob

You need to use Compact All to reset the counter. I am not sure about
shutting down but my computer is not left on overnight.

--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



PA Bear wrote:
>
>> Do you folks get a "Copying box" for each folder or only on "big
>> ones"? I get it only on those 3.
>
> The number of Copying boxes one seex appears to depend on the
> overall
> size of your message store. I'm pretty sure I've seen more than 3
> on
> several occasions.
>
>> PS re the auto-compact every 100 times ... several times I have
>> done
>> "compact all folders" manually and when I exited , or later that
>> day,
>> was prompted with the prompt to "autocompact ?". So, in spite of
>> what
>> the article said, I can tell you from experience (XP SP2 - up to
>> date
>> with updates) that the counter must not get reset immediately -
>> otherwise that would not have happened to me - several times. Maybe
>> it's at shutdown time ???
>
> When did you install 923694? Have you seen the autocompact prompt
> since (1) installing 923694 and (2) after having compacted manually
> at least once?
>> "PA Bear" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> See the Notes section of http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069
>>> for an explanation of sorts.
>>>
>>> Also see http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Bobb - wrote:
>>>> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it
>>>> seems
>>>> related to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx
>>>> files
>>>> bigger than 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a "
>>>> Copying"
>>>> window appear then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they
>>>> passed
>>>> 19mb long ago , so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP
>>>> "windowsupdate" as opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared.
>>>> I
>>>> do
>>>> have a few backups of my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt
>>>> folders.dbx
>>>> file burnt me years ago and I had to rebuild the nested
>>>> structures.) After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering
>>>> ... why seeing
>>>> it now ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now
>>>> "make a copy of the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a
>>>> folder ? I'm
>>>> asking since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's
>>>> related to
>>>> the NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it
>>>> a
>>>> problem - should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of
>>>> msgs
>>>> or
>>>> the biggest messages I should delete ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any pointers

"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065
> That had it exactly - thanks very much.
> Do you folks get a "Copying box" for each folder or only on "big ones" ?
> I get it only on those 3 .
>
> PS re the auto-compact every 100 times ... several times I have done
> "compact all folders" manually and when I exited , or later that day, was
> prompted with the prompt to "autocompact ?". So, in spite of what the
> article said, I can tell you from experience (XP SP2 - up to date with
> updates) that the counter must not get reset immediately - otherwise that
> would not have happened to me - several times. Maybe it's at shutdown time
> ???


Until the latest update OE did not reset the counter when you did a manual
compact. Now it does.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

You will probably only see the copying message if the file is large.

steve

"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> For a week now I thought I had a folders issue, but today it seems related
> to the size of the specific dbx file. I've got 3 dbx files bigger than
> 19mb and while 'compacting all folders' I see a " Copying" window appear
> then disappear. My Sent and Inbox are 30+mb so they passed 19mb long ago ,
> so I'm thinking that it's related to a recent XP "windowsupdate" as
> opposed to folder corruption ( which I feared. I do have a few backups of
> my Data Store Folder, since a corrupt folders.dbx file burnt me years ago
> and I had to rebuild the nested structures.)
>
> After compaction , everything is OK, but wondering ... why seeing it now
> ? Is this a bug or just that a recent update has it now "make a copy of
> the folder bigger than 19mb" before compacting a folder ? I'm asking
> since 19mb seems like a strange number - or maybe it's related to the
> NUMBER of messages contained and not the folder size ? Is it a problem -
> should I delete a bunch of the messages ? Is it # of msgs or the biggest
> messages I should delete ?
>
> Thanks for any pointers