I have a 1 TB Sata drive near full with large 2 and 3 gig video files
that PerfectDisk is reporting needs a serious defragging... and it will
take days to do it right. I have deleted files and added files over many
weeks and thus trhe need for the house cleaning.

Question: If I copy this entire drive to another 1TB Sata drive can I
assume the files will now be put back together so no defragging is
necessary?

Thanks!

In article <maRyl.27158$(E-Mail Removed)>, tfg1
@mindspring.com says...
> I have a 1 TB Sata drive near full with large 2 and 3 gig video files
> that PerfectDisk is reporting needs a serious defragging... and it will
> take days to do it right. I have deleted files and added files over many
> weeks and thus trhe need for the house cleaning.
>
> Question: If I copy this entire drive to another 1TB Sata drive can I
> assume the files will now be put back together so no defragging is
> necessary?

No, not always true.

Copy the files to another location, defrag the first disk, copy them
back. There may be a LITTLE fragmentation, but it should not be serious.

In the case of really bad fragmentation, if you delete the files you can
defrag the drive very quickly, then restore the fragged files and they
should be in a much better shape.

If all you do is copy them, the destination could still fragment them as
well as when you copy them back.

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Leythos wrote:

> No, not always true.
>
> Copy the files to another location, defrag the first disk, copy them
> back. There may be a LITTLE fragmentation, but it should not be serious.
>
> In the case of really bad fragmentation, if you delete the files you can
> defrag the drive very quickly, then restore the fragged files and they
> should be in a much better shape.
>
> If all you do is copy them, the destination could still fragment them as
> well as when you copy them back.
>

WHAT?

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:59:44 -0400, scooterspal <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I have a 1 TB Sata drive near full with large 2 and 3 gig video files
>that PerfectDisk is reporting needs a serious defragging... and it will
>take days to do it right. I have deleted files and added files over many
>weeks and thus trhe need for the house cleaning.
>
>Question: If I copy this entire drive to another 1TB Sata drive can I
>assume the files will now be put back together so no defragging is
>necessary?
>
>Thanks!

No .

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > No, not always true.
> >
> > Copy the files to another location, defrag the first disk, copy them
> > back. There may be a LITTLE fragmentation, but it should not be serious.
> >
> > In the case of really bad fragmentation, if you delete the files you can
> > defrag the drive very quickly, then restore the fragged files and they
> > should be in a much better shape.
> >
> > If all you do is copy them, the destination could still fragment them as
> > well as when you copy them back.
> >
>
> WHAT?
>

What do you mean What? What part don't you comprehend?

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Leythos wrote:
>>> No, not always true.
>>> Copy the files to another location, defrag the first disk, copy them
>>> back. There may be a LITTLE fragmentation, but it should not be
>>> serious.
>>> In the case of really bad fragmentation, if you delete the files you
>>> can defrag the drive very quickly, then restore the fragged files and
>>> they should be in a much better shape.
>>> If all you do is copy them, the destination could still fragment them
>>> as well as when you copy them back.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> WHAT?

Leythos wrote:
> What do you mean What? What part don't you comprehend?

LOL. Probably "the destination could still fragment them".
(*I* understand what you mean, but still ...)

In article <OP4D$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Leythos wrote:
> >>> No, not always true.
> >>> Copy the files to another location, defrag the first disk, copy them
> >>> back. There may be a LITTLE fragmentation, but it should not be
> >>> serious.
> >>> In the case of really bad fragmentation, if you delete the files you
> >>> can defrag the drive very quickly, then restore the fragged files and
> >>> they should be in a much better shape.
> >>> If all you do is copy them, the destination could still fragment them
> >>> as well as when you copy them back.
>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> >> WHAT?
>
> Leythos wrote:
> > What do you mean What? What part don't you comprehend?
>
> LOL. Probably "the destination could still fragment them".
> (*I* understand what you mean, but still ...)

If the destination drive is fragmented, there is a very good chance that
the file will be fragmented when moved from Source to Dest.

If you then defrag the source drive there is still a chance the file
will fragment when moved from the Dest to Source drive, but it should
have a LOT LESS fragments than before you moved it.

The only thing that moving highly fragmented files to another drive does
is make it quicker to defrag the source drive.

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"scooterspal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:maRyl.27158$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a 1 TB Sata drive near full with large 2 and 3 gig video files that
>PerfectDisk is reporting needs a serious defragging... and it will take
>days to do it right. I have deleted files and added files over many
> weeks and thus trhe need for the house cleaning.
>
> Question: If I copy this entire drive to another 1TB Sata drive can I
> assume the files will now be put back together so no defragging is
> necessary?
>
> Thanks!

What you seem to be looking for are contiguous files. That's not needed in
the specific instance you noted.

If you insist on such, decide what you want in advance without need of
deletions, and defrag much more often. Need for such "housecleaning" is the
user's opinion. And being so, should be done in process instead of waiting
until its time-expensive.
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Hi,
I have twin 37GB hard-disks on my machine and after defragging them only
one, quite large, file is reported as being still fragmented. The file is
an (.ima) image file of 983 MB and is left being reported as having 4,098
file fragments. Even if I copy it to the second drive, defragment the first
so that there are no fragmented files left, copy it back and do a Defragment
"Analyse" on it and it's back again with, more or less, exactly the same
number of fragments (i.e. in about 4,000 parts). So this goes to show that
when copying files to other drives they do seem to retain the number of
fragmented parts as I think "Leythos" was trying to say
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"Lil' Dave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "scooterspal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:maRyl.27158$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a 1 TB Sata drive near full with large 2 and 3 gig video files that
>>PerfectDisk is reporting needs a serious defragging... and it will take
>>days to do it right. I have deleted files and added files over many
>> weeks and thus trhe need for the house cleaning.
>>
>> Question: If I copy this entire drive to another 1TB Sata drive can I
>> assume the files will now be put back together so no defragging is
>> necessary?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> What you seem to be looking for are contiguous files. That's not needed
> in the specific instance you noted.
>
> If you insist on such, decide what you want in advance without need of
> deletions, and defrag much more often. Need for such "housecleaning" is
> the user's opinion. And being so, should be done in process instead of
> waiting until its time-expensive.
> --
> Dave
> Confront and fight Obama zombieism
>

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> What about if you MOVE them over and then back again? I did this a few years ago (circa Win 95) and it completely
> defraged the moved files without me defragging the source drive before returning them.
>

That would only actually work if your source drive was reasonably
unfragmented to start with.

Windows fills sectors on a first come basis - so if you have gaps that
are smaller than the final size, it will fragment the files.

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