In the default location C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook I had
3 pst files

Outlook.pst
plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email accounts I
check through Outlook.

I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then renamed the
old one outlook.old

At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where still
pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the .pst's
corresponding to my email accounts?

If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that I cannot
then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can click inside
the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any changes.

You should change the path(s) while Outlook is closed in Control Panel |
Mail | Data Files.

camotto wrote:
> In the default location C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook I had
> 3 pst files
>
> Outlook.pst
> plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email accounts I
> check through Outlook.
>
> I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then renamed the
> old one outlook.old
>
> At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where still
> pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the .pst's
> corresponding to my email accounts?
>
> If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that I cannot
> then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can click inside
> the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any changes.

I had tried it both ways...doesn't work.

Just to be clear:
The outlook.pst file is pointing to the new location

The 2 email accounts that I check, even though I ALSO copied them to the new
location, are still pointing to the default (old) folder.

So when I go into Mail from the control panel I see

outlook.pst set as default, pointing to the new location
But both email accounts say that new email is being delivered to the old
location

I cannot change the path...


"Pat Willener" wrote:

> You should change the path(s) while Outlook is closed in Control Panel |
> Mail | Data Files.
>
> camotto wrote:
> > In the default location C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook I had
> > 3 pst files
> >
> > Outlook.pst
> > plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email accounts I
> > check through Outlook.
> >
> > I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then renamed the
> > old one outlook.old
> >
> > At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where still
> > pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the .pst's
> > corresponding to my email accounts?
> >
> > If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that I cannot
> > then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can click inside
> > the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any changes.
>

Copy all pst's from default location to Documents, rename pst's in default
location as appropriate (all with Outlook closed)
When you start outlook it will complain, simply point it to the new location

PS you cause some confusion by refering to email accounts, the email account
is that which is shown within Outlook under Accounts. Generally if you use
different pst's you would have seperate Profiles for each individual mail
account together with its specific pst.

"camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7320C6C0-E0E5-4BA0-BBB8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I had tried it both ways...doesn't work.
>
> Just to be clear:
> The outlook.pst file is pointing to the new location
>
> The 2 email accounts that I check, even though I ALSO copied them to the
> new
> location, are still pointing to the default (old) folder.
>
> So when I go into Mail from the control panel I see
>
> outlook.pst set as default, pointing to the new location
> But both email accounts say that new email is being delivered to the old
> location
>
> I cannot change the path...
>
>
> "Pat Willener" wrote:
>
>> You should change the path(s) while Outlook is closed in Control Panel |
>> Mail | Data Files.
>>
>> camotto wrote:
>> > In the default location C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
>> > I had
>> > 3 pst files
>> >
>> > Outlook.pst
>> > plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email accounts
>> > I
>> > check through Outlook.
>> >
>> > I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then renamed
>> > the
>> > old one outlook.old
>> >
>> > At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where
>> > still
>> > pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the .pst's
>> > corresponding to my email accounts?
>> >
>> > If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that I
>> > cannot
>> > then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can click
>> > inside
>> > the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any
>> > changes.
>>

DL, I'm sorry about the confusion.

I don't particularly understand psts.

I just knew I wanted to change all my outlook data files to the documents
folder so I could back them up easier. So i went into the default location
and looked for anything that had the pst after it.

Originally, I moved the outlook.pst only, restarted outlook, and repointed
it to the new location. I thought that it automatically create the other two
pst's - and by that I mean the other two files ending with pst that have to
do with the email accounts. I am sure this explanation shows where I'm not
undrstanding the basics of pst's.

Anyway - it was only AFTER I realized that the two email accounts were still
pointing to the old location in their data files that I copied them into the
new location. And now I cannot change the path to point to that new location.

I don't know if this helps anyone see where I went wrong - I'm thinking
maybe it was not copying ALL of the files at the same time, before reopening
outlook and pointing it to the new location. If that is the case though is
there an easy workaround.

"DL" wrote:

> Copy all pst's from default location to Documents, rename pst's in default
> location as appropriate (all with Outlook closed)
> When you start outlook it will complain, simply point it to the new location
>
> PS you cause some confusion by refering to email accounts, the email account
> is that which is shown within Outlook under Accounts. Generally if you use
> different pst's you would have seperate Profiles for each individual mail
> account together with its specific pst.
>
> "camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:7320C6C0-E0E5-4BA0-BBB8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I had tried it both ways...doesn't work.
> >
> > Just to be clear:
> > The outlook.pst file is pointing to the new location
> >
> > The 2 email accounts that I check, even though I ALSO copied them to the
> > new
> > location, are still pointing to the default (old) folder.
> >
> > So when I go into Mail from the control panel I see
> >
> > outlook.pst set as default, pointing to the new location
> > But both email accounts say that new email is being delivered to the old
> > location
> >
> > I cannot change the path...
> >
> >
> > "Pat Willener" wrote:
> >
> >> You should change the path(s) while Outlook is closed in Control Panel |
> >> Mail | Data Files.
> >>
> >> camotto wrote:
> >> > In the default location C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
> >> > I had
> >> > 3 pst files
> >> >
> >> > Outlook.pst
> >> > plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email accounts
> >> > I
> >> > check through Outlook.
> >> >
> >> > I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then renamed
> >> > the
> >> > old one outlook.old
> >> >
> >> > At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where
> >> > still
> >> > pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the .pst's
> >> > corresponding to my email accounts?
> >> >
> >> > If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that I
> >> > cannot
> >> > then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can click
> >> > inside
> >> > the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any
> >> > changes.
> >>
>
>
>

Trying to bring more clarity to my question...

Under Mail Folders, in the Navigation Pane, the Personal Folders and each of
the two email accounts (one is AOL) have always been parent folders. So that
it's something like this:

Personal Folders
Deleted Items
Drafts
Inbox etc...
Email Account #1 (aol)
Drafts
Inbox
Sent
Spam
Email Account #2 (not aol)
Inbox, etc.

My email comes in to each one of those email account's inbox - never to the
Personal Folders, Inbox.

I hope this helps better clarify any confusion...



"camotto" wrote:

> DL, I'm sorry about the confusion.
>
> I don't particularly understand psts.
>
> I just knew I wanted to change all my outlook data files to the documents
> folder so I could back them up easier. So i went into the default location
> and looked for anything that had the pst after it.
>
> Originally, I moved the outlook.pst only, restarted outlook, and repointed
> it to the new location. I thought that it automatically create the other two
> pst's - and by that I mean the other two files ending with pst that have to
> do with the email accounts. I am sure this explanation shows where I'm not
> undrstanding the basics of pst's.
>
> Anyway - it was only AFTER I realized that the two email accounts were still
> pointing to the old location in their data files that I copied them into the
> new location. And now I cannot change the path to point to that new location.
>
> I don't know if this helps anyone see where I went wrong - I'm thinking
> maybe it was not copying ALL of the files at the same time, before reopening
> outlook and pointing it to the new location. If that is the case though is
> there an easy workaround.
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
> > Copy all pst's from default location to Documents, rename pst's in default
> > location as appropriate (all with Outlook closed)
> > When you start outlook it will complain, simply point it to the new location
> >
> > PS you cause some confusion by refering to email accounts, the email account
> > is that which is shown within Outlook under Accounts. Generally if you use
> > different pst's you would have seperate Profiles for each individual mail
> > account together with its specific pst.
> >
> > "camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:7320C6C0-E0E5-4BA0-BBB8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >I had tried it both ways...doesn't work.
> > >
> > > Just to be clear:
> > > The outlook.pst file is pointing to the new location
> > >
> > > The 2 email accounts that I check, even though I ALSO copied them to the
> > > new
> > > location, are still pointing to the default (old) folder.
> > >
> > > So when I go into Mail from the control panel I see
> > >
> > > outlook.pst set as default, pointing to the new location
> > > But both email accounts say that new email is being delivered to the old
> > > location
> > >
> > > I cannot change the path...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Pat Willener" wrote:
> > >
> > >> You should change the path(s) while Outlook is closed in Control Panel |
> > >> Mail | Data Files.
> > >>
> > >> camotto wrote:
> > >> > In the default location C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
> > >> > I had
> > >> > 3 pst files
> > >> >
> > >> > Outlook.pst
> > >> > plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email accounts
> > >> > I
> > >> > check through Outlook.
> > >> >
> > >> > I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then renamed
> > >> > the
> > >> > old one outlook.old
> > >> >
> > >> > At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where
> > >> > still
> > >> > pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the .pst's
> > >> > corresponding to my email accounts?
> > >> >
> > >> > If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that I
> > >> > cannot
> > >> > then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can click
> > >> > inside
> > >> > the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any
> > >> > changes.
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

"camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6A08D019-974F-4FEC-A6F1-(E-Mail Removed)...

> Originally, I moved the outlook.pst only, restarted outlook, and repointed
> it to the new location. I thought that it automatically create the other
> two
> pst's - and by that I mean the other two files ending with pst that have
> to
> do with the email accounts. I am sure this explanation shows where I'm
> not
> undrstanding the basics of pst's.

If your other accounts are IMAP accounts, then they probably are associated
with the accounts but, in general, PSTs and accounts are independent. What
types of accounts are you using?
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Hi Brian and eveyrone who responded so far...thanks...

I've got a lot of questions here - I understand if you can't answer them
all, but I hope you can help me sort this out.

If I go into account settings both email accounts show IMAP/SMTP.

I guess by independent you mean independent of the outlook.pst profile. I'm
curious in what situations it's NOT independent?

So where does that leave me:

1. My outlook.pst contains what? Everything else OTHER than email, like
calendar, contacts, etc.?

2. Can the IMAP/SMTP accounts be moved so that they deliver mail into the
Documents folder?

If the answer is yes, it is not working for me by copying these pst's into
the new location and restarting outlook - outlook is no longer asking me for
the new pst location, nor can I change the delivery path manually - and I
tried via Account Settings, email and data files tab, and through the Control
Panel, Mail (all with outlook closed).

3. What does "delivery" means

Does that mean that copies of the emails are stored in that particular pst
profile? So, say for AOL all the emails sent, received, saved, are stored in
the (E-Mail Removed) profile?

All I am trying to do is backup all my outlook-related stuff to the
documents folder so that I have an easy way to get an additional backup to my
external drive.

"Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

> "camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6A08D019-974F-4FEC-A6F1-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > Originally, I moved the outlook.pst only, restarted outlook, and repointed
> > it to the new location. I thought that it automatically create the other
> > two
> > pst's - and by that I mean the other two files ending with pst that have
> > to
> > do with the email accounts. I am sure this explanation shows where I'm
> > not
> > undrstanding the basics of pst's.
>
> If your other accounts are IMAP accounts, then they probably are associated
> with the accounts but, in general, PSTs and accounts are independent. What
> types of accounts are you using?
> --
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
>
>

I would suspect the two named Email Account #1 & # are maybe IMAP accounts,
rt click on one of these >Properties>Advanced will show file name and path
of the message store

"camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:954CF94C-FEF7-49C9-80E8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Trying to bring more clarity to my question...
>
> Under Mail Folders, in the Navigation Pane, the Personal Folders and each
> of
> the two email accounts (one is AOL) have always been parent folders. So
> that
> it's something like this:
>
> Personal Folders
> Deleted Items
> Drafts
> Inbox etc...
> Email Account #1 (aol)
> Drafts
> Inbox
> Sent
> Spam
> Email Account #2 (not aol)
> Inbox, etc.
>
> My email comes in to each one of those email account's inbox - never to
> the
> Personal Folders, Inbox.
>
> I hope this helps better clarify any confusion...
>
>
>
> "camotto" wrote:
>
>> DL, I'm sorry about the confusion.
>>
>> I don't particularly understand psts.
>>
>> I just knew I wanted to change all my outlook data files to the documents
>> folder so I could back them up easier. So i went into the default
>> location
>> and looked for anything that had the pst after it.
>>
>> Originally, I moved the outlook.pst only, restarted outlook, and
>> repointed
>> it to the new location. I thought that it automatically create the other
>> two
>> pst's - and by that I mean the other two files ending with pst that have
>> to
>> do with the email accounts. I am sure this explanation shows where I'm
>> not
>> undrstanding the basics of pst's.
>>
>> Anyway - it was only AFTER I realized that the two email accounts were
>> still
>> pointing to the old location in their data files that I copied them into
>> the
>> new location. And now I cannot change the path to point to that new
>> location.
>>
>> I don't know if this helps anyone see where I went wrong - I'm thinking
>> maybe it was not copying ALL of the files at the same time, before
>> reopening
>> outlook and pointing it to the new location. If that is the case though
>> is
>> there an easy workaround.
>>
>> "DL" wrote:
>>
>> > Copy all pst's from default location to Documents, rename pst's in
>> > default
>> > location as appropriate (all with Outlook closed)
>> > When you start outlook it will complain, simply point it to the new
>> > location
>> >
>> > PS you cause some confusion by refering to email accounts, the email
>> > account
>> > is that which is shown within Outlook under Accounts. Generally if you
>> > use
>> > different pst's you would have seperate Profiles for each individual
>> > mail
>> > account together with its specific pst.
>> >
>> > "camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:7320C6C0-E0E5-4BA0-BBB8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >I had tried it both ways...doesn't work.
>> > >
>> > > Just to be clear:
>> > > The outlook.pst file is pointing to the new location
>> > >
>> > > The 2 email accounts that I check, even though I ALSO copied them to
>> > > the
>> > > new
>> > > location, are still pointing to the default (old) folder.
>> > >
>> > > So when I go into Mail from the control panel I see
>> > >
>> > > outlook.pst set as default, pointing to the new location
>> > > But both email accounts say that new email is being delivered to the
>> > > old
>> > > location
>> > >
>> > > I cannot change the path...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Pat Willener" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> You should change the path(s) while Outlook is closed in Control
>> > >> Panel |
>> > >> Mail | Data Files.
>> > >>
>> > >> camotto wrote:
>> > >> > In the default location
>> > >> > C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
>> > >> > I had
>> > >> > 3 pst files
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Outlook.pst
>> > >> > plus two other .pst's corresponding to the two separate email
>> > >> > accounts
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > check through Outlook.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I copied the Outlook.pst into the My Documents folders and then
>> > >> > renamed
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > old one outlook.old
>> > >> >
>> > >> > At first I had done just that but noticed the email accounts where
>> > >> > still
>> > >> > pointing to the default location. Do I need to also copy the
>> > >> > .pst's
>> > >> > corresponding to my email accounts?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > If I do need to copy them, what could be causing the problem that
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > cannot
>> > >> > then change the path through the Tools, Account settings? I can
>> > >> > click
>> > >> > inside
>> > >> > the path to change the path but it doesn't allow me to make any
>> > >> > changes.
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

"camotto" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:27C6CF7D-6027-4934-A596-(E-Mail Removed)...

> If I go into account settings both email accounts show IMAP/SMTP.
>
> I guess by independent you mean independent of the outlook.pst profile.
> I'm
> curious in what situations it's NOT independent?

When the account type is POP (or Exchange), all accounts use the same data
store as the delivery location no matter how many accounts you have.
Because IMAP account PSTs reflect the contents of the server, IMAP accounts
and their PSTs are not independent. There is a one-to-one correspondence
between accounts and PSTs for IMAP.

> So where does that leave me:
>
> 1. My outlook.pst contains what? Everything else OTHER than email, like
> calendar, contacts, etc.?

You'll have one PST that is the delivery location PST; the root will be
"Outlook Today" and the folders will be the default folder. You'll also
have one PST for each IMAP account.

> 2. Can the IMAP/SMTP accounts be moved so that they deliver mail into the
> Documents folder?

I don't know if it's possible with Outlook 2007, but I have used this
technique to move an IMAP PST in Outlok 2003:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300593

> If the answer is yes, it is not working for me by copying these pst's into
> the new location and restarting outlook

That will work only for the default PST, never for IMAP PSTs.

> 3. What does "delivery" means

With versions of Outlook prior to 2007, there was one PST that acted as the
"delivery location"; that is, a PST where new messages were delivered when
they arrived, although with IMAP, this is not all that accurate, since they
have their own Inboxes. The delivery location designates which PST is
considered the default. This is where new COntacts will be stored, where
new Cqalendar items will be stored, and so on. Reminders will only fire
from the delivery location (i.e., default) folders. Outlook 2007 blurs that
nomenclature somewhat since even with POP accounts, each account can have
its own separate Inbox and Sent Items folders.

> Does that mean that copies of the emails are stored in that particular pst
> profile? So, say for AOL all the emails sent, received, saved, are stored
> in
> the (E-Mail Removed) profile?

A PST is not a profile. A mail profile is a structure in the registry that
contains pointers to all the PSTs and accounts in use when Outlook is open.

> All I am trying to do is backup all my outlook-related stuff to the
> documents folder so that I have an easy way to get an additional backup to
> my
> external drive.

There is no need to back up an IMAP account PST because it will always
reflect the contents of the corresponding folders on the IMAP server.
There's little reason to move IMAP PSTs from the default location where
Outlook creates them. If something were to happen to them, merely delete
and re-add the account and Outlook will create a new PST for the account and
synchroinize it to the server again.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]