Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?

I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.

One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.

"Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
> search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>
> I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
> Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>
> One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
> it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
> when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.

It's pretty straightforward.

You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write to
CD" option.

This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
collection complete.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524

HTH
-pk

On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>
> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>
> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
>
> It's pretty straightforward.
>
> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write to
> CD" option.
>
> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
> collection complete.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
>
> HTH
> -pk

One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
obvious.

Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.

Doesn't sound like what I experience with Windows's CD writing, though it might be the way other direct-burning apps work. My understanding, assuming it's just the Windows writer, is that when you drag a file to the CD, it's only a shortcut (or it may be written to some kind of cache.) You have to tell it to write, though you get prompts at startup, and perhaps when the CD is ejected, that you have unwritten files and do you want to write them to CD now? I've never heard of it being automatic.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
]
"Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
>> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>>
>> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
>> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>>
>> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
>> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
>> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
>>
>> It's pretty straightforward.
>>
>> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write to
>> CD" option.
>>
>> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
>> collection complete.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
>>
>> HTH
>> -pk
>
> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
> obvious.
>
> Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
> CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
> until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.
>

"Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
>> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>>
>> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
>> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>>
>> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
>> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
>> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
>>
>> It's pretty straightforward.
>>
>> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write to
>> CD" option.
>>
>> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
>> collection complete.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
>>
>> HTH
>> -pk
>
> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
> obvious.
>
> Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
> CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
> until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.
>

When you add files to the CD to be burned they are written to a Temp folder. AFAIK
the files are not written to disk until the user executes "Copy files to disk" or
something to that effect. You must be getting prompted upon exit that there are
files waiting to be copied, I've never known it to automatically execute a burn
without user intervention.
If the user chooses not to burn the files at the time of being prompted, the next
time the drive is accessed the files will still be there waiting to be burned taking
into consideration the user didn't delete them.

For more control:
Get the free CD BurnerXP Pro: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php

Check for your CD/DVD drive compatibility here:
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/testeddrives.php



--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

Richard Fangnail wrote:
>
> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
> obvious.
>

CDs and floppies have little in common - heck, they're not even the same
shape!

A CD has only one track - actually it's a gigantic spiral. In order to build
the directory at the front, it has to know everything that's going to be on
the CD before anything can be written!

Point is, writing CDs is way different from your experience with floppies.

"Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
>> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>>
>> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
>> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>>
>> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
>> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
>> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
>>
>> It's pretty straightforward.
>>
>> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write
>> to
>> CD" option.
>>
>> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
>> collection complete.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
>>
>> HTH
>> -pk
>
> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
> obvious.
>
> Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
> CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
> until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.

No, it waits until you have finished assembling files to be written to the
CD. This is completely normal for CD-burning applications.

If you want to get around this, get packet-writing software and use CD/RW
disks. Packet software includes things like Sonic DLA, Nero InCD, and I
can't remember the Roxio name, perhaps DirectCD. These allow you to format
a CD/RW or DVD/RW, it's assigned a drive letter, and you use it as any other
disk; then files *are* written as you go along. XP does *not* include
packet software, and can't natively write to DVDs at all.

Usually, you'll get this as part of the software bundle with a new DVD
burner drive.

HTH
-pk

Yes, Roxio's is DirectCD. Or, at least, it was last time I looked.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Patrick Keenan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>>> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
>>> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>>>
>>> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
>>> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>>>
>>> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
>>> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
>>> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
>>>
>>> It's pretty straightforward.
>>>
>>> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write
>>> to
>>> CD" option.
>>>
>>> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
>>> collection complete.
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> -pk
>>
>> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
>> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
>> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
>> obvious.
>>
>> Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
>> CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
>> until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.
>
> No, it waits until you have finished assembling files to be written to the
> CD. This is completely normal for CD-burning applications.
>
> If you want to get around this, get packet-writing software and use CD/RW
> disks. Packet software includes things like Sonic DLA, Nero InCD, and I
> can't remember the Roxio name, perhaps DirectCD. These allow you to
> format a CD/RW or DVD/RW, it's assigned a drive letter, and you use it as
> any other disk; then files *are* written as you go along. XP does *not*
> include packet software, and can't natively write to DVDs at all.
>
> Usually, you'll get this as part of the software bundle with a new DVD
> burner drive.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>

I would imagine that the barebones "copy to Cd" that comes in windows would
choose to compile all before burning. And Roxio's "Drag and Drop" feature
would be what people are looking for.
I don't know if this option is in any MS programs. But through "FreshUI"
you have the option to add to your right click drop down a "Copy to"feature.
When selected and then select the Burner drive it instantly burns the file or
whatever to the CD.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Yes, Roxio's is DirectCD. Or, at least, it was last time I looked.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Patrick Keenan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
> >>> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>
> >>> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if you
> >>> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
> >>>
> >>> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
> >>> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
> >>>
> >>> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied. Sometimes
> >>> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's right
> >>> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
> >>>
> >>> It's pretty straightforward.
> >>>
> >>> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a "Write
> >>> to
> >>> CD" option.
> >>>
> >>> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
> >>> collection complete.
> >>>
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>> -pk
> >>
> >> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
> >> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
> >> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
> >> obvious.
> >>
> >> Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
> >> CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
> >> until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.
> >
> > No, it waits until you have finished assembling files to be written to the
> > CD. This is completely normal for CD-burning applications.
> >
> > If you want to get around this, get packet-writing software and use CD/RW
> > disks. Packet software includes things like Sonic DLA, Nero InCD, and I
> > can't remember the Roxio name, perhaps DirectCD. These allow you to
> > format a CD/RW or DVD/RW, it's assigned a drive letter, and you use it as
> > any other disk; then files *are* written as you go along. XP does *not*
> > include packet software, and can't natively write to DVDs at all.
> >
> > Usually, you'll get this as part of the software bundle with a new DVD
> > burner drive.
> >
> > HTH
> > -pk
> >
> >
>
>
>

Dunno, I have Roxio 8 installed and it changes all that, even though I
didn't install the packet-writing stuff.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"poatt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsBF23F76-ACDB-49A9-8E65-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I would imagine that the barebones "copy to Cd" that comes in windows would
> choose to compile all before burning. And Roxio's "Drag and Drop" feature
> would be what people are looking for.
> I don't know if this option is in any MS programs. But through "FreshUI"
> you have the option to add to your right click drop down a "Copy
> to"feature.
> When selected and then select the Burner drive it instantly burns the file
> or
> whatever to the CD.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Yes, Roxio's is DirectCD. Or, at least, it was last time I looked.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Patrick Keenan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > "Richard Fangnail" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> On Aug 22, 10:43 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> >>> "Richard Fangnail" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>>
>> >>> > Have you found that instructions for doing this are inaccurate, if
>> >>> > you
>> >>> > search in microsoft.com or use the Help files in Windows Explorer?
>> >>>
>> >>> > I've found that I could get it to work right using just Windows
>> >>> > Explorer but the doc doesn't match it at all.
>> >>>
>> >>> > One confusing thing is WHEN the files are actually copied.
>> >>> > Sometimes
>> >>> > it's right before you eject the CD and other times I think it's
>> >>> > right
>> >>> > when you copy the icons in Windows Explorer.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's pretty straightforward.
>> >>>
>> >>> You will find that if you view the CD via My Computer, there's a
>> >>> "Write
>> >>> to
>> >>> CD" option.
>> >>>
>> >>> This lets you collect a number of files and burn once you have the
>> >>> collection complete.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306524
>> >>>
>> >>> HTH
>> >>> -pk
>> >>
>> >> One reason why I was confused was that when I copied files to a
>> >> floppy, it would be as simple and obvious as copying from one folder
>> >> to another within the same drive. But with CDROMs it's not quite as
>> >> obvious.
>> >>
>> >> Have you found that when copying files to a CDROM, it writes to the
>> >> CDROM right away? I remember incidents where nothing was written
>> >> until I Ejected, at which point it wrote to it.
>> >
>> > No, it waits until you have finished assembling files to be written to
>> > the
>> > CD. This is completely normal for CD-burning applications.
>> >
>> > If you want to get around this, get packet-writing software and use
>> > CD/RW
>> > disks. Packet software includes things like Sonic DLA, Nero InCD, and
>> > I
>> > can't remember the Roxio name, perhaps DirectCD. These allow you to
>> > format a CD/RW or DVD/RW, it's assigned a drive letter, and you use it
>> > as
>> > any other disk; then files *are* written as you go along. XP does
>> > *not*
>> > include packet software, and can't natively write to DVDs at all.
>> >
>> > Usually, you'll get this as part of the software bundle with a new DVD
>> > burner drive.
>> >
>> > HTH
>> > -pk
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>