Hi all.
Here are the facts:
We have a running server, which we would like to replace. For this
reason we have to copy systemfiles to which we do not have access as
DOMAINADMIN. The written security policy does not allow us to inherit
the possesion. The server should not be offline at any time. Robycopy
does not fit for this case.

And here is the question:
Does anyone know of a tool other than robocoy to solve this problem?

tia,
Patrick Klein

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all.
> Here are the facts:
> We have a running server, which we would like to replace. For this
> reason we have to copy systemfiles to which we do not have access as
> DOMAINADMIN. The written security policy does not allow us to inherit
> the possesion. The server should not be offline at any time. Robycopy
> does not fit for this case.
>
> And here is the question:
> Does anyone know of a tool other than robocoy to solve this problem?
>
> tia,
> Patrick Klein
>

There are no tools that will give you access to protected
files unless you have the appropriate NTFS permissions
- Windows simply won't let you You must seize ownership
of these folders, then change the permissions. If your
security policy prevents you from seizing ownership then
you must change the security policy first.

You could get around the policy restrictions by running
a session under the System account, using runassys.exe
(http://assarbad.info/en/stuff).

You could, of course, copy the files while Windows is
turned off.

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi all.
> > Here are the facts:
> > We have a running server, which we would like to replace. For this
> > reason we have to copy systemfiles to which we do not have access as
> > DOMAINADMIN. The written security policy does not allow us to inherit
> > the possesion. The server should not be offline at any time. Robycopy
> > does not fit for this case.
> >
> > And here is the question:
> > Does anyone know of a tool other than robocoy to solve this problem?
> >
> > tia,
> > Patrick Klein
> >
>
> There are no tools that will give you access to protected
> files unless you have the appropriate NTFS permissions
> - Windows simply won't let you You must seize ownership
> of these folders, then change the permissions. If your
> security policy prevents you from seizing ownership then
> you must change the security policy first.
>
> You could get around the policy restrictions by running
> a session under the System account, using runassys.exe
> (http://assarbad.info/en/stuff).
>
> You could, of course, copy the files while Windows is
> turned off.

your post was excellent. you understood the problem and gave an
excellent advise.
working with cmdassys was the solution. we were able to use robocopy
with system priviliges on an online server to copy the needed files.

many thanks,
patrick

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi all.
> > > Here are the facts:
> > > We have a running server, which we would like to replace. For this
> > > reason we have to copy systemfiles to which we do not have access as
> > > DOMAINADMIN. The written security policy does not allow us to inherit
> > > the possesion. The server should not be offline at any time. Robycopy
> > > does not fit for this case.
> > >
> > > And here is the question:
> > > Does anyone know of a tool other than robocoy to solve this problem?
> > >
> > > tia,
> > > Patrick Klein
> > >
> >
> > There are no tools that will give you access to protected
> > files unless you have the appropriate NTFS permissions
> > - Windows simply won't let you You must seize ownership
> > of these folders, then change the permissions. If your
> > security policy prevents you from seizing ownership then
> > you must change the security policy first.
> >
> > You could get around the policy restrictions by running
> > a session under the System account, using runassys.exe
> > (http://assarbad.info/en/stuff).
> >
> > You could, of course, copy the files while Windows is
> > turned off.
>
> your post was excellent. you understood the problem and gave an
> excellent advise.
> working with cmdassys was the solution. we were able to use robocopy
> with system priviliges on an online server to copy the needed files.
>
> many thanks,
> patrick
>

Glad you solved it, and thanks for the feedback.

[Spark]

Secure Copy has administrative override for bypassing ntfs security. 2 weeks ago in such situation I was able to move all of the files on my server even those that I didn’t have access to.