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MajorSetback@excite.com
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      29th Jul 2006
I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case I
use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.

My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
menu. Is there any solution to this?

Many thanks in advance,
Peter.

 
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jasen
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      30th Jul 2006
On 2006-07-29, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
> on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case I
> use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
> in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
> needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.
>
> My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
> Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
> menu. Is there any solution to this?


the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
system though.




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Bye.
Jasen
 
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Jean-Marc Gulliet
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      30th Jul 2006
jasen wrote:
> On 2006-07-29, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
>> on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case I
>> use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
>> in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
>> needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.
>>
>> My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
>> Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
>> menu. Is there any solution to this?

>
> the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
> I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
> system though.


I have never used Octave, but I guess it runs on Windows, with or
without Cygwin, in a "DOS" box -- a MS Windows command line windows. In
this case, you must have an enhance system menu located on the
upper-left corner of the window, that is within the title bar, on its
left, right click on the small graphic/icon. A one-column menu should
open and you can get access to the edit functionalities in a sub-menu
near the bottom of the column. You will notice that there are no
shortcuts available for the cut, copy, or past commands, therefore you
will have to use this menu every time you want to copy or past data
between the DOS Box and some Windows applications.

HTH,
Jean-Marc
 
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MajorSetback@excite.com
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      30th Jul 2006
jasen wrote:
> On 2006-07-29, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
> > on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case I
> > use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
> > in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
> > needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.
> >
> > My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
> > Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
> > menu. Is there any solution to this?

>
> the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
> I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
> system though.
>

Unfortunately the Windows mouse has only two buttons, at least in my
experience.

Thanks,
Peter.

 
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MajorSetback@excite.com
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      30th Jul 2006
Jean-Marc Gulliet wrote:
> jasen wrote:
> > On 2006-07-29, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
> >> on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case I
> >> use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
> >> in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
> >> needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.
> >>
> >> My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
> >> Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
> >> menu. Is there any solution to this?

> >
> > the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
> > I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
> > system though.

>
> I have never used Octave, but I guess it runs on Windows, with or
> without Cygwin, in a "DOS" box -- a MS Windows command line windows. In
> this case, you must have an enhance system menu located on the
> upper-left corner of the window, that is within the title bar, on its
> left, right click on the small graphic/icon. A one-column menu should
> open and you can get access to the edit functionalities in a sub-menu
> near the bottom of the column. You will notice that there are no
> shortcuts available for the cut, copy, or past commands, therefore you
> will have to use this menu every time you want to copy or past data
> between the DOS Box and some Windows applications.
>
> HTH,
> Jean-Marc


Unfortunately, I appears to have even fewer options than MS DOS. I
R-click on the X and do get a menu but all that it offers is : Move,
Size, Minimize, Maximize and Close (Alt-F4). I was also unable to get
help on startx in the MS DOS window. I tried
$ help startx
and
$ startx/?

to no avail. In the DOS window, I went to Properties and checked both
"Quick Edit Mode" and "Insert Mode" under the edit properties. Still
no joy.

Thanks,
Peter.

 
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MajorSetback@excite.com
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      30th Jul 2006
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
> on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case I
> use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
> in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
> needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.
>
> My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
> Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
> menu. Is there any solution to this?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Peter.


Hey, folks. Just found out that Shift-Insert works. Hold down the
Shift ket and press the Insert key.

 
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Mark B Stucky
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      30th Jul 2006

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jean-Marc Gulliet wrote:
>> jasen wrote:
>> > On 2006-07-29, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >> I have two PCs running Windows XP. I set up (the Matlab-like) Octave
>> >> on both. In one case I used the Cygwin version and in the other case
>> >> I
>> >> use the non-Cygwin version. The latter case was more straight-forward
>> >> in that I only needed to click on the desktop icon. With Cygwin, I
>> >> needed to start an X-Windows application then start Octave.
>> >>
>> >> My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
>> >> Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
>> >> menu. Is there any solution to this?
>> >
>> > the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
>> > I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
>> > system though.

>>
>> I have never used Octave, but I guess it runs on Windows, with or
>> without Cygwin, in a "DOS" box -- a MS Windows command line windows. In
>> this case, you must have an enhance system menu located on the
>> upper-left corner of the window, that is within the title bar, on its
>> left, right click on the small graphic/icon. A one-column menu should
>> open and you can get access to the edit functionalities in a sub-menu
>> near the bottom of the column. You will notice that there are no
>> shortcuts available for the cut, copy, or past commands, therefore you
>> will have to use this menu every time you want to copy or past data
>> between the DOS Box and some Windows applications.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Jean-Marc

>
> Unfortunately, I appears to have even fewer options than MS DOS. I
> R-click on the X and do get a menu but all that it offers is : Move,
> Size, Minimize, Maximize and Close (Alt-F4). I was also unable to get
> help on startx in the MS DOS window. I tried
> $ help startx
> and
> $ startx/?
>
> to no avail. In the DOS window, I went to Properties and checked both
> "Quick Edit Mode" and "Insert Mode" under the edit properties. Still
> no joy.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter.



I think that you need the "-clipboard" option when you start X under
cygwin. Refer to either "startxwin.bat" or "startxwin.sh" in the
/usr/X11R6/bin directory.

# -clipboard
# Enable the integrated version of xwinclip. Do not use in
# conjunction with the xwinclip program.

--Mark


 
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      31st Jul 2006
On 2006-07-30, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> jasen wrote:
>>
>> > My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
>> > Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
>> > menu. Is there any solution to this?

>>
>> the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
>> I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
>> system though.

>
> Unfortunately the Windows mouse has only two buttons, at least in my
> experience.


they've had three for a few years now, the middle one doubles as a
scroll wheel.

also in some versions of X clicking the left and right buttons at the same
time will emulate the middle button.

Bye.
Jasen
 
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      31st Jul 2006

jasen wrote:
> On 2006-07-30, (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > jasen wrote:
> >>
> >> > My problem is that in neither case was I able to paste text from a
> >> > Windows application. Ctrl-V would not work and there was no pull-down
> >> > menu. Is there any solution to this?
> >>
> >> the middle mouse button has historically been for pasting in X
> >> I don't know if it's connected to the windows clipboard on your
> >> system though.

> >
> > Unfortunately the Windows mouse has only two buttons, at least in my
> > experience.

>
> they've had three for a few years now, the middle one doubles as a
> scroll wheel.
>
> also in some versions of X clicking the left and right buttons at the same
> time will emulate the middle button.


My mistake. I did not realize it was anything but a scroller.

Thanks,
Peter.

 
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MajorSetback@excite.com
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      2nd Aug 2006

Mark B Stucky wrote:
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >
> > Unfortunately, I appears to have even fewer options than MS DOS. I
> > R-click on the X and do get a menu but all that it offers is : Move,
> > Size, Minimize, Maximize and Close (Alt-F4). I was also unable to get
> > help on startx in the MS DOS window. I tried
> > $ help startx
> > and
> > $ startx/?
> >
> > to no avail. In the DOS window, I went to Properties and checked both
> > "Quick Edit Mode" and "Insert Mode" under the edit properties. Still
> > no joy.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Peter.

>
>
> I think that you need the "-clipboard" option when you start X under
> cygwin. Refer to either "startxwin.bat" or "startxwin.sh" in the
> /usr/X11R6/bin directory.
>
> # -clipboard
> # Enable the integrated version of xwinclip. Do not use in
> # conjunction with the xwinclip program.


Thanks for the feedback but I have found that I can use Shift-Insert in
regular mode to do what I wanted.

Thanks,
Peter.

 
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