I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data from
the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have to
be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log the
old machine in, just switch it on & off

I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even wondered
about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but i
don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st day

Any ideas?

"JethroUK©" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data from
> the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have to
> be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log the
> old machine in, just switch it on & off
>
> I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even
> wondered
> about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but i
> don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st day
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>


Buy an external USB disk enclosure. Put the old HDD in that.

might be easier
to move the old harddrive
into the new system as
a secondary/slave drive.

then you don't have
to worry about moving
individuals files....

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"JethroUK©" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data
>from
> the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will
> have to
> be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log
> the
> old machine in, just switch it on & off
>
> I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even
> wondered
> about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but
> i
> don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st
> day
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

If you have a home network, leave the old machine connected, share all the
files/folders you want to transfer (or even put them all in one shared
directory). Set the old machine to NOT require a password to login and not
use the welcome screen.
Power off the old machine, disconnect the monitor & transfer it to the new
machine.
Then hook the new machine up to the network, transfer the data via the
network.
No Monitor, kb, mouse required on the old machine.
You can also run the Migration tool from the XP CD (I would think Vista has
a compatible tool) and transfer that file via the network to the new system.
OR burn the data to a DVD, use a USB HDD Enclosure, Transfer the data to an
internet storage site (depending on the size).
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"JethroUK©" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data from
> the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have to
> be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log the
> old machine in, just switch it on & off
>
> I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even
> wondered
> about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but i
> don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st day
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

Adding to the good answers you got, you can:

- Copy the files you want to transfer to a CD, DVD, or USB drive on the old
machine, and then boot up the new machine, and copy the files over.

- Or backup the data to CD, DVD or USB drive on the old machine and restore
it onto the new PC. I would not open up an old machine and take anything
apart without making a backup of it anyway. I used to transfer data
professionally, and have old machines which worked, that stopped working
after I opened it up, and mucked around with it, which is why i find it risky
to take a HD from one and try to plug it into the other. The way I see it, I
just want to transfer data, not build a new machine, and spend the next week
figuring out whcih pin i bent, or wire I knocked loose.

- Or get some software like "Fastlynx" (www.sewelldirect.com) which I use,
that can transfer data by special "transfer" serial, parallel or USB cables.
Both machines must be on, but one monitor is needed. After the software is
loaded onto both PC's, one machine is setup as the master, and the other the
slave, and you can toggle between the two, or watch the data transfer from
one PC to the other on a split screen, showing activity in the source and
destination drives. The advantage here is the two PC's can be on different
OS. This is my preferred way as I don't have to set up any networks, open up
any PC's, bend any pins, loosen any wires, and I only deal with the data
once, during the transfer, and not copy it somewhere first, then copy or
restore it back after, and not have to worry about differences in the OS of
the source and destination systems.




"JethroUK©" wrote:

> I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data from
> the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have to
> be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log the
> old machine in, just switch it on & off
>
> I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even wondered
> about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but i
> don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st day
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>

I think the network idea sounds favorite

i've had problems sharing before - apart from setting the folders to 'share
this folder' should i set up any particular users or would 'system' with
full read/write be enough ("Anonymous logon", "Everyone")?

how do i set it, not to require a pass & not use welcome screen?



"NotMe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| If you have a home network, leave the old machine connected, share all the
| files/folders you want to transfer (or even put them all in one shared
| directory). Set the old machine to NOT require a password to login and not
| use the welcome screen.
| Power off the old machine, disconnect the monitor & transfer it to the new
| machine.
| Then hook the new machine up to the network, transfer the data via the
| network.
| No Monitor, kb, mouse required on the old machine.
| You can also run the Migration tool from the XP CD (I would think Vista
has
| a compatible tool) and transfer that file via the network to the new
system.
| OR burn the data to a DVD, use a USB HDD Enclosure, Transfer the data to
an
| internet storage site (depending on the size).
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| A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
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| "JethroUK©" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:sG6ni.34070$(E-Mail Removed)...
| >I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data
from
| > the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have
to
| > be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log
the
| > old machine in, just switch it on & off
| >
| > I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even
| > wondered
| > about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but i
| > don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st
day
| >
| > Any ideas?
| >
| >
|
|

i think this could be the answer except as i said - i'm reluctant to
disassemble a brand new p.c. + the new p.c.already has 2 drives + it also
means putting the old drive back afterwards


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| might be easier
| to move the old harddrive
| into the new system as
| a secondary/slave drive.
|
| then you don't have
| to worry about moving
| individuals files....
|
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| "JethroUK©" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:sG6ni.34070$(E-Mail Removed)...
| >I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data
| >from
| > the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will
| > have to
| > be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log
| > the
| > old machine in, just switch it on & off
| >
| > I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even
| > wondered
| > about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but
| > i
| > don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st
| > day
| >
| > Any ideas?
| >
| >
|

copying to CD would be a solution but there's 20 gig+ of data (20 discs ish)
so it's not the quickest option

strange isn't it - you'd think this happens so often there would only be one
fail safe approach but i've had loads suggestions

i'm even wondering whether it might be easier to drive the whole operation
from the old machine via network cable bearing in mind that the new machine
has no operating system but the drives are formatted


"FrankChin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| Adding to the good answers you got, you can:
|
| - Copy the files you want to transfer to a CD, DVD, or USB drive on the
old
| machine, and then boot up the new machine, and copy the files over.
|
| - Or backup the data to CD, DVD or USB drive on the old machine and
restore
| it onto the new PC. I would not open up an old machine and take anything
| apart without making a backup of it anyway. I used to transfer data
| professionally, and have old machines which worked, that stopped working
| after I opened it up, and mucked around with it, which is why i find it
risky
| to take a HD from one and try to plug it into the other. The way I see it,
I
| just want to transfer data, not build a new machine, and spend the next
week
| figuring out whcih pin i bent, or wire I knocked loose.
|
| - Or get some software like "Fastlynx" (www.sewelldirect.com) which I use,
| that can transfer data by special "transfer" serial, parallel or USB
cables.
| Both machines must be on, but one monitor is needed. After the software is
| loaded onto both PC's, one machine is setup as the master, and the other
the
| slave, and you can toggle between the two, or watch the data transfer from
| one PC to the other on a split screen, showing activity in the source and
| destination drives. The advantage here is the two PC's can be on different
| OS. This is my preferred way as I don't have to set up any networks, open
up
| any PC's, bend any pins, loosen any wires, and I only deal with the data
| once, during the transfer, and not copy it somewhere first, then copy or
| restore it back after, and not have to worry about differences in the OS
of
| the source and destination systems.
|
|
|
|
| "JethroUK©" wrote:
|
| > I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data
from
| > the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have
to
| > be controlled completely from the new machine - i won't be able to log
the
| > old machine in, just switch it on & off
| >
| > I have a parrallel lead and a serial lead and nic in both - I even
wondered
| > about taking the old drive out and plugging it in the new machine but i
| > don't need it & don't really want to dismantle the new one on the 1st
day
| >
| > Any ideas?
| >
| >
| >

JethroUK© wrote:
>
> I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data from
> the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have to

You really need a monitor to operate a PC.

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"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
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| JethroUK© wrote:
| >
| > I just ordered a new machine and i wondered how best to copy the data
from
| > the old machine bearing in mind it will have no monitor so it will have
to
|
| You really need a monitor to operate a PC.
|

It's possible to link many p.c's together (2 in my case) and access them all
via one screen/keyboard/mouse (this is called 'a terminal')

this is probably the arrangement i will end up with (albeit temporary) to
copy my old data on to the new machine