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Coolscan 5000 ED + Vuescan and Linux ?

 
 
Christian Tsotras
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      26th May 2004
Hello.

I'm very close to buy a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED, but I wonder if anyone on
the ng uses it on Linux.

I have Vuescan on a Redhat 9, so the problem would be more on the USB2
driver side than anywhere else. I will buy a USB2/Firewire card with the
scanner.

Does someone have any info ?

Thanks.

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Dances With Crows
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      26th May 2004
On Wed, 26 May 2004 20:13:03 +0200, Christian Tsotras staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
> I'm very close to buy a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED, but I wonder if anyone
> on the ng uses it on Linux.


Most of the people that I've seen posting on this newsgroup use 'Doze.
Sorry, but that's the way the world works. I looked at
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#NIKON and no scanner with
5000 in its name was listed, though the LS 40 ED is said to work fine
with the coolscan2 backend.

> I have Vuescan on a Redhat 9, so the problem would be more on the USB2
> driver side than anywhere else.


Why do you say that? "modprobe ehci-hcd" is all you need for USB2
support as long as your kernel is >= 2.4.19. There is only one USB2
chipset in common use, and ehci-hcd supports it, so any USB2 PCI card
will work. The real problem will be getting a scanner backend that
works. coolscan2 might work, or Vuescan (Linux) might know how to
communicate with the scanner. Ask Ed Hamrick about Vuescan (Linux); he
posts here pretty frequently. HTH,

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Christian Tsotras
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      26th May 2004
Hello, Dan.

On Wed, 26 May 2004 18:28:00 +0000, Dances With Crows wrote:

> Most of the people that I've seen posting on this newsgroup use 'Doze.
> Sorry, but that's the way the world works.


Yes, but what ? Gimp 2 is a nice product for me (even without 48bit
support - but Vuescan has ...), and Linux provides me security, trust and
really full control at low cost. But that's another subject ...

[...]
> The real problem will be getting a scanner backend that
> works. coolscan2 might work, or Vuescan (Linux) might know how to
> communicate with the scanner. Ask Ed Hamrick about Vuescan (Linux); he
> posts here pretty frequently. HTH,


Vuescan works on Linux, and Coolscan 5000 is supported by Vuescan.
Ed answered me by mail that one pass multisampling would be supported by
VS in the next weeks. Also, VS has now the "analog gain" setting available.
Everything I need seems to be OK.

Thank you for your (quick and precise) answer. :-)))

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Norbert Preining
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      26th May 2004
Christian Tsotras wrote:
> I'm very close to buy a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED, but I wonder if anyone on
> the ng uses it on Linux.


Yes, more or less only on linux.

> I have Vuescan on a Redhat 9, so the problem would be more on the USB2
> driver side than anywhere else. I will buy a USB2/Firewire card with the
> scanner.


No problem, as already mention, ehci module supports all (almost)
controllers.

There are ATM only a few problems, but I do not know wether they only
occur on linux or also on WibBlows:
- One-pass multisampling (work in progress, as already mentioned)
- 4000dpi: on the bug list, it seems that the 4000dpi do not provide
real 4000dpi, but 2000dpi + sampled up with nearest neighbor (see
www.logic.at/people/preining/scan/)
- Wrong aspect ratio of scans if resolution is specified as Auto (bug
report I sent to Ed)

Otherwise, I have no problems at all to use the CS5000 with
libusbscanner (NOT!!! the kernel module scanner.o!!!) with kernel
versions 2.6 (and also 2.4).

If you need more information, just ask me, but I am away for 3 weeks
starting from friday afternoon.

Best wishes

Norbert
 
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Christian Tsotras
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      26th May 2004
On Wed, 26 May 2004 23:08:29 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:

> - 4000dpi: on the bug list, it seems that the 4000dpi do not provide
> real 4000dpi, but 2000dpi + sampled up with nearest neighbor (see
> www.logic.at/people/preining/scan/)


Interesting.

Did you deactivate all software sharpening of NS and VS ?
Same for IR settings: without ICE (NS) and Infrared=None (VS) ?

This would be interesting to redo the tests with a Windows version of
Vuescan.

> If you need more information, just ask me, but I am away for 3 weeks
> starting from friday afternoon.


Did you try to use NikonScan with Wine ?


Thank you.

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WD
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      27th May 2004
I experienced the same problem at 4000ppi on Windows with no ICE or
Infrared cleaning.

WD

Christian Tsotras <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 23:08:29 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
>
> > - 4000dpi: on the bug list, it seems that the 4000dpi do not provide
> > real 4000dpi, but 2000dpi + sampled up with nearest neighbor (see
> > www.logic.at/people/preining/scan/)

>
> Interesting.
>
> Did you deactivate all software sharpening of NS and VS ?
> Same for IR settings: without ICE (NS) and Infrared=None (VS) ?
>
> This would be interesting to redo the tests with a Windows version of
> Vuescan.
>
> > If you need more information, just ask me, but I am away for 3 weeks
> > starting from friday afternoon.

>
> Did you try to use NikonScan with Wine ?
>
>
> Thank you.

 
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Norbert Preining
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      27th May 2004
Christian Tsotras wrote:
> Did you deactivate all software sharpening of NS and VS ?
> Same for IR settings: without ICE (NS) and Infrared=None (VS) ?


Yes, in both cases all the Infrared settings were disabled.

> This would be interesting to redo the tests with a Windows version of
> Vuescan.


See reply from WD

> Did you try to use NikonScan with Wine ?


No, I could test VMware, but I am not sure if it will work (ie the USB
communication will work).

Best wishes

Norbert
 
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Christian Tsotras
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      27th May 2004
On Thu, 27 May 2004 07:31:10 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:

>> Did you deactivate all software sharpening of NS and VS ?
>> Same for IR settings: without ICE (NS) and Infrared=None (VS) ?

>
> Yes, in both cases all the Infrared settings were disabled.


And how were the focusing settings with Vuescan ?

I suppose the picture comes from the center of a film.
Did you make the same test on the center and the corners ?

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Norbert Preining
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      28th May 2004
Hi!

Christian Tsotras wrote:
> And how were the focusing settings with Vuescan ?


Autofocus on Preview

> I suppose the picture comes from the center of a film.
> Did you make the same test on the center and the corners ?


No. Should I? Do you think it is a problem of `slide-flatness'?

Best wishes

Norbert
 
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Christian Tsotras
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      28th May 2004
On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:59:02 +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:

>> And how were the focusing settings with Vuescan ?

> Autofocus on Preview


Can you set it manually ?
If yes, could you try several tests to find if the problem is from the
autofocus side when controlled by Vuescan ?

>> I suppose the picture comes from the center of a film.
>> Did you make the same test on the center and the corners ?

> No. Should I? Do you think it is a problem of `slide-flatness'?


I don't know. Maybe the tests could tell.


Thank you.

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