I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire enclosure
with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital and Maxtor offer top
performance, they do generate excessive heat, especially the former. I am
incling towards Samsung or Seagate in 80-120GB range. Are there better options?

Irn Mdn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire
> enclosure with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital
> and Maxtor offer top performance, they do generate excessive
> heat, especially the former. I am incling towards Samsung

It gets reasonably warm in a normal PC case internal bay.
I wouldnt run it in a much smaller external case myself.

> or Seagate in 80-120GB range.

Barracudas get stinking hot when run loose on the desktop,
because they rely on conduction to get the heat away.

> Are there better options?

Yep, a 5400 drive or a fan in the enclosure.

IMHO they all need additional cooling. For that reason a small enclosure is
not a good idea.

"Irn Mdn" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire enclosure
> with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital and Maxtor offer top
> performance, they do generate excessive heat, especially the former. I am
> incling towards Samsung or Seagate in 80-120GB range. Are there better
options?

Irn Mdn wrote:

> I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire enclosure
> with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital and Maxtor offer top
> performance, they do generate excessive heat, especially the former. I am
> incling towards Samsung or Seagate in 80-120GB range. Are there better options?


I'd be disinclined to use any 7200RPM drive in an enclosure without any
fan. I have an 80GB Maxtor 7200RPM drive an a fanless enclosure and
there's no way that I'd trust it for continuous use.

I leave it on for about 20 minutes at most (enough to image a partition)
and then turn it off. Once I forgot to shut it off after a backup.
Out of curiosity, I removed it from the enclosure and was stunned at how
hot the thing was.


-WD


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Irn Mdn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire enclosure
> with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital and Maxtor offer top
> performance, they do generate excessive heat, especially the former. I am
> incling towards Samsung or Seagate in 80-120GB range. Are there better
options?

I'm not entirely sure I agree WRT WD drives. Storagereview took a look at
the WD800JB and remarked that it was among the coolest drives they've
measured. That's assuming, of course, that an IDE drive is acceptable for
your needs.

http://www.storagereview.com/article...WD800JB_1.html

"Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<br2ki4$28cnha$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Irn Mdn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire
> > enclosure with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital
> > and Maxtor offer top performance, they do generate excessive
> > heat, especially the former. I am incling towards Samsung
>
> It gets reasonably warm in a normal PC case internal bay.
> I wouldnt run it in a much smaller external case myself.
>
> > or Seagate in 80-120GB range.
>
> Barracudas get stinking hot when run loose on the desktop,
> because they rely on conduction to get the heat away.
>
> > Are there better options?
>
> Yep, a 5400 drive or a fan in the enclosure.


I have a IBM deskstar 7200 in big fat 5.25" enclosure with fan. This is good
enough to edit DV from my laptop. Too bad it takes up as much space as
the laptop. I am looking for a small pocketable enclosure. It seems
Maxtor DiamondMax 5400 is the only choice in 120GB range. I doubt
WD 5400 Protege are available in that size.

"Irn Mdn" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<br2ki4$28cnha$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > Irn Mdn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > > I am in search of a 7200RPM hard for a small portable firewire
> > > enclosure with no fan to keep temps low. While Western Digital
> > > and Maxtor offer top performance, they do generate excessive
> > > heat, especially the former. I am incling towards Samsung
> >
> > It gets reasonably warm in a normal PC case internal bay.
> > I wouldnt run it in a much smaller external case myself.
> >
> > > or Seagate in 80-120GB range.
> >
> > Barracudas get stinking hot when run loose on the desktop,
> > because they rely on conduction to get the heat away.
> >
> > > Are there better options?
> >
> > Yep, a 5400 drive or a fan in the enclosure.

> I have a IBM deskstar 7200 in big fat 5.25" enclosure
> with fan. This is good enough to edit DV from my
> laptop. Too bad it takes up as much space as the
> laptop. I am looking for a small pocketable enclosure.

Yeah, but basically 7200RPM and fanless and very small isnt a real option currently.

> It seems Maxtor DiamondMax 5400 is the only choice in 120GB range.

There's also the Samsung.

> I doubt WD 5400 Protege are available in that size.

Probably not unless its rather obsolete stock.

I'm looking for a new Hard Drive. You seem to like Samsung.
Would you please give me a couple reason why?
TIA, Jerry

Jerry <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for a new Hard Drive. You seem to like Samsung.

I do indeed.

> Would you please give me a couple reason why?

Main one is that the P80 drives are amazingly quiet,
both idle noise and when moving the heads around.
And no stupid noisy head activity when idle too.

Fluid bearing, main advantage over the WDs which still dont have that.

Another advantages over WDs which I previously used is
that the Samsungs have the usual simple jumpering scheme,
unlike WD that has a stupid unique config for the single
drive on the cable when you arent using cable select.

The WDs STILL dont have an internal SMART temperature
sensor either. Thats more of an irritation that essential,
but I do like to keep track of the most important temps.

Samsungs are the last in the industry to have
full 3 year warrantys on all their drives too.

Main downside is that the Samsungs are harder to find,
quite a few flogging hard drives dont flog Samsungs.

I just installed a Samsung 40 GB for my son's computer. After 15 minutes of
ghosting the thing was rather hot to the touch. It was quiet though.

Dave


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> Jerry <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > I'm looking for a new Hard Drive. You seem to like Samsung.
>
> I do indeed.
>
> > Would you please give me a couple reason why?
>
> Main one is that the P80 drives are amazingly quiet,
> both idle noise and when moving the heads around.
> And no stupid noisy head activity when idle too.
>
> Fluid bearing, main advantage over the WDs which still dont have that.
>
> Another advantages over WDs which I previously used is
> that the Samsungs have the usual simple jumpering scheme,
> unlike WD that has a stupid unique config for the single
> drive on the cable when you arent using cable select.
>
> The WDs STILL dont have an internal SMART temperature
> sensor either. Thats more of an irritation that essential,
> but I do like to keep track of the most important temps.
>
> Samsungs are the last in the industry to have
> full 3 year warrantys on all their drives too.
>
> Main downside is that the Samsungs are harder to find,
> quite a few flogging hard drives dont flog Samsungs.
>
>