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After learning about the demise of Frontpage and the uncertain future of
Frontpage Server Extensions (FPSE), I bought Expression Web and ordered Jim
Chishire's Expression Web book with the intention of converting my website to
one that doesn't require FPSE. But the more I research this, the more
confused I become about what I should do.

My website (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/) is about 35 pages and rather
simple. Most pages have text, photos and a link bar. In addition, I have four
forms with confirmation and validation pages in which the form data comes to
me by email. I also have a sitemap. The forms and sitemap require FPSE to
work properly.

Question #1: Is it simpler and more efficient to import my website into
Expression Web and then modify it and clean it up in Expression Web to
eliminate the need for FPSE, or is it easier to just recreate it in
Expression Web so I don't require FPSE?

Question #2: If you think I should import it, which option should I use to
import it? I know one option is FPSE, which I think I wouldn't want to use,
but there are other options, which I don't really understand. Which is the
best way to import it for a website like mine
(http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/).

Question #3: Obviously to eliminate the need for FPSE I will have to
recreate my forms in Expression Web so they don't require FPSE. What is the
simplest way to do this? And, can you recommend a good book or tutorial
specifically on the simplest way to create forms with confirmation,
validation and email delivery of form data capabilities using Expression Web?

Question #4: If after all is said and done you happen to think I should just
keep using the FPSE, then do I really have any need for Expression Web?
Should I just return it to the retailer.

As I said, I am confused as to what to do here. Thanks for any guidance you
can give me.

Carl






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Hi,
I'll put my comments below with your original text for clarity;


Chris Leeds
Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact


"carlben" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E8F4CB73-C18E-45DF-AD3A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> After learning about the demise of Frontpage and the uncertain future of
> Frontpage Server Extensions (FPSE), I bought Expression Web and ordered
> Jim
> Chishire's Expression Web book with the intention of converting my website
> to
> one that doesn't require FPSE. But the more I research this, the more
> confused I become about what I should do.
>
> My website (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/) is about 35 pages and
> rather
> simple. Most pages have text, photos and a link bar. In addition, I have
> four
> forms with confirmation and validation pages in which the form data comes
> to
> me by email. I also have a sitemap. The forms and sitemap require FPSE to
> work properly.
>
> Question #1: Is it simpler and more efficient to import my website into
> Expression Web and then modify it and clean it up in Expression Web to
> eliminate the need for FPSE, or is it easier to just recreate it in
> Expression Web so I don't require FPSE?


No need to do either. Open your web in frontpage and publish it (file/
publish site) to another location on your computer (to make a good solid
copy).
then close frontpage and open EW, in EW hit file/ open site and open the
site from the location you just published it to.
that's it.



>
> Question #2: If you think I should import it, which option should I use to
> import it? I know one option is FPSE, which I think I wouldn't want to
> use,
> but there are other options, which I don't really understand. Which is the
> best way to import it for a website like mine
> (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/).


Importing is a little understood feature. You don't need it in this case.


>
> Question #3: Obviously to eliminate the need for FPSE I will have to
> recreate my forms in Expression Web so they don't require FPSE. What is
> the
> simplest way to do this?


You would use the server side scripting that you like best and that's
supported by your hosting company's server.
FWIW; frontpage forms will continue to work in EW as long as you've got FPSE
on the server.


And, can you recommend a good book or tutorial
> specifically on the simplest way to create forms with confirmation,
> validation and email delivery of form data capabilities using Expression
> Web?


There is/ was a tutorial on this at www.jimcosoftware.com/
also, if it's PHP I've had good luck modifying frontpage built forms to use
this PHP handler:
www.cluxa.com it's both cheap and nice.


>
> Question #4: If after all is said and done you happen to think I should
> just
> keep using the FPSE, then do I really have any need for Expression Web?
> Should I just return it to the retailer.


Well, I would continue using the FPSE if only for http:// publishing, plus
you've got forms and navigation components.
to totally get rid of your forms it's pretty straight forward, getting rid
of your nav bars is going to be more difficult, you'll have to decide what
you want to replace them with, how you'll get them onto the various pages,
(dwt, etc.) and whatnot.
If youre looking to use EW because of it's ability to write "valid"
HTML/XHTML code the link bars would have to go because they can't be made
valid.

My recomendation to people is to do what I did;
keep frontpage, load EW and use both until either you get used to working
within EW or EW matures to give you similar functionality to what you had in
FP.

If you're not sure, don't open the package, download the free EW trial and
give it a shot. If you don't like it dump it and return your unopened
retail package, if you do like it, keep the retail package. In either case
I would keep FP on my machine.


>
> As I said, I am confused as to what to do here. Thanks for any guidance
> you
> can give me.
>
> Carl


Hope that helped,

Chris



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>
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Chris, thank you very much for your advice and expertise. You've given me
good information to factor into my decisions. If anyone else has any
opinions, please send them my way. Again, thank you very much.
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"Chris Leeds, MVP - FrontPage" wrote:

> Hi,
> I'll put my comments below with your original text for clarity;
>
>
> Chris Leeds
> Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact
>
>
> "carlben" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:E8F4CB73-C18E-45DF-AD3A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > After learning about the demise of Frontpage and the uncertain future of
> > Frontpage Server Extensions (FPSE), I bought Expression Web and ordered
> > Jim
> > Chishire's Expression Web book with the intention of converting my website
> > to
> > one that doesn't require FPSE. But the more I research this, the more
> > confused I become about what I should do.
> >
> > My website (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/) is about 35 pages and
> > rather
> > simple. Most pages have text, photos and a link bar. In addition, I have
> > four
> > forms with confirmation and validation pages in which the form data comes
> > to
> > me by email. I also have a sitemap. The forms and sitemap require FPSE to
> > work properly.
> >
> > Question #1: Is it simpler and more efficient to import my website into
> > Expression Web and then modify it and clean it up in Expression Web to
> > eliminate the need for FPSE, or is it easier to just recreate it in
> > Expression Web so I don't require FPSE?

>
> No need to do either. Open your web in frontpage and publish it (file/
> publish site) to another location on your computer (to make a good solid
> copy).
> then close frontpage and open EW, in EW hit file/ open site and open the
> site from the location you just published it to.
> that's it.
>
>
>
> >
> > Question #2: If you think I should import it, which option should I use to
> > import it? I know one option is FPSE, which I think I wouldn't want to
> > use,
> > but there are other options, which I don't really understand. Which is the
> > best way to import it for a website like mine
> > (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/).

>
> Importing is a little understood feature. You don't need it in this case.
>
>
> >
> > Question #3: Obviously to eliminate the need for FPSE I will have to
> > recreate my forms in Expression Web so they don't require FPSE. What is
> > the
> > simplest way to do this?

>
> You would use the server side scripting that you like best and that's
> supported by your hosting company's server.
> FWIW; frontpage forms will continue to work in EW as long as you've got FPSE
> on the server.
>
>
> And, can you recommend a good book or tutorial
> > specifically on the simplest way to create forms with confirmation,
> > validation and email delivery of form data capabilities using Expression
> > Web?

>
> There is/ was a tutorial on this at www.jimcosoftware.com/
> also, if it's PHP I've had good luck modifying frontpage built forms to use
> this PHP handler:
> www.cluxa.com it's both cheap and nice.
>
>
> >
> > Question #4: If after all is said and done you happen to think I should
> > just
> > keep using the FPSE, then do I really have any need for Expression Web?
> > Should I just return it to the retailer.

>
> Well, I would continue using the FPSE if only for http:// publishing, plus
> you've got forms and navigation components.
> to totally get rid of your forms it's pretty straight forward, getting rid
> of your nav bars is going to be more difficult, you'll have to decide what
> you want to replace them with, how you'll get them onto the various pages,
> (dwt, etc.) and whatnot.
> If youre looking to use EW because of it's ability to write "valid"
> HTML/XHTML code the link bars would have to go because they can't be made
> valid.
>
> My recomendation to people is to do what I did;
> keep frontpage, load EW and use both until either you get used to working
> within EW or EW matures to give you similar functionality to what you had in
> FP.
>
> If you're not sure, don't open the package, download the free EW trial and
> give it a shot. If you don't like it dump it and return your unopened
> retail package, if you do like it, keep the retail package. In either case
> I would keep FP on my machine.
>
>
> >
> > As I said, I am confused as to what to do here. Thanks for any guidance
> > you
> > can give me.
> >
> > Carl

>
> Hope that helped,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks so much for your help, as always.

>
>
>

 
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"carlben" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Chris, thank you very much for your advice and expertise. You've given me
> good information to factor into my decisions. If anyone else has any
> opinions, please send them my way. Again, thank you very much.
> --
>
>
>
> "Chris Leeds, MVP - FrontPage" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'll put my comments below with your original text for clarity;
>>
>>
>> Chris Leeds
>> Contact: http://chrisleeds.com/contact
>>
>>
>> "carlben" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:E8F4CB73-C18E-45DF-AD3A-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > After learning about the demise of Frontpage and the uncertain future
>> > of
>> > Frontpage Server Extensions (FPSE), I bought Expression Web and ordered
>> > Jim
>> > Chishire's Expression Web book with the intention of converting my
>> > website
>> > to
>> > one that doesn't require FPSE. But the more I research this, the more
>> > confused I become about what I should do.
>> >
>> > My website (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/) is about 35 pages and
>> > rather
>> > simple. Most pages have text, photos and a link bar. In addition, I
>> > have
>> > four
>> > forms with confirmation and validation pages in which the form data
>> > comes
>> > to
>> > me by email. I also have a sitemap. The forms and sitemap require FPSE
>> > to
>> > work properly.
>> >
>> > Question #1: Is it simpler and more efficient to import my website into
>> > Expression Web and then modify it and clean it up in Expression Web to
>> > eliminate the need for FPSE, or is it easier to just recreate it in
>> > Expression Web so I don't require FPSE?

>>
>> No need to do either. Open your web in frontpage and publish it (file/
>> publish site) to another location on your computer (to make a good solid
>> copy).
>> then close frontpage and open EW, in EW hit file/ open site and open the
>> site from the location you just published it to.
>> that's it.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Question #2: If you think I should import it, which option should I use
>> > to
>> > import it? I know one option is FPSE, which I think I wouldn't want to
>> > use,
>> > but there are other options, which I don't really understand. Which is
>> > the
>> > best way to import it for a website like mine
>> > (http://serenityonlinetherapy.com/).

>>
>> Importing is a little understood feature. You don't need it in this
>> case.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Question #3: Obviously to eliminate the need for FPSE I will have to
>> > recreate my forms in Expression Web so they don't require FPSE. What is
>> > the
>> > simplest way to do this?

>>
>> You would use the server side scripting that you like best and that's
>> supported by your hosting company's server.
>> FWIW; frontpage forms will continue to work in EW as long as you've got
>> FPSE
>> on the server.
>>
>>
>> And, can you recommend a good book or tutorial
>> > specifically on the simplest way to create forms with confirmation,
>> > validation and email delivery of form data capabilities using
>> > Expression
>> > Web?

>>
>> There is/ was a tutorial on this at www.jimcosoftware.com/
>> also, if it's PHP I've had good luck modifying frontpage built forms to
>> use
>> this PHP handler:
>> www.cluxa.com it's both cheap and nice.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Question #4: If after all is said and done you happen to think I should
>> > just
>> > keep using the FPSE, then do I really have any need for Expression Web?
>> > Should I just return it to the retailer.

>>
>> Well, I would continue using the FPSE if only for http:// publishing,
>> plus
>> you've got forms and navigation components.
>> to totally get rid of your forms it's pretty straight forward, getting
>> rid
>> of your nav bars is going to be more difficult, you'll have to decide
>> what
>> you want to replace them with, how you'll get them onto the various
>> pages,
>> (dwt, etc.) and whatnot.
>> If youre looking to use EW because of it's ability to write "valid"
>> HTML/XHTML code the link bars would have to go because they can't be made
>> valid.
>>
>> My recomendation to people is to do what I did;
>> keep frontpage, load EW and use both until either you get used to working
>> within EW or EW matures to give you similar functionality to what you had
>> in
>> FP.
>>
>> If you're not sure, don't open the package, download the free EW trial
>> and
>> give it a shot. If you don't like it dump it and return your unopened
>> retail package, if you do like it, keep the retail package. In either
>> case
>> I would keep FP on my machine.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > As I said, I am confused as to what to do here. Thanks for any guidance
>> > you
>> > can give me.
>> >
>> > Carl

>>
>> Hope that helped,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks so much for your help, as always.

>>
>>
>>



 
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