Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described immediately
below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an ordinary cd...and
tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player with the results you
sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes audio CD
creation a breeze, never before has it been just so easy to create an Audio
CD and we are not just talking Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)
playable in any CD player, also fancy mp3, WMA (Windows Media Audio) or even
Ogg Vorbis CDs, the choice is yours depending upon the type of CD player.
Plenty of existing audio formats, if not nearly all, are accepted (through
Codec Downloads) to be Converted to an Audio CD.
dCW is Shareware, it can be tried without obligation for 30 days,
after 30 days dCW should either be registered or uninstalled. Register dCW
here.

"Norm at Home" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described
immediately
> below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an ordinary cd...and
> tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player with the results you
> sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes audio
CD
> creation a breeze, never before has it been just so easy to create an
Audio
> CD and we are not just talking Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)...

<snip>

Yes you are...the number of files you can get on an audio CD is always
determined by total playing time. You didn't "copy MP3s" either. They were
decoded to wave...something which is necessary and done by virtually all
burning programs automatically. Even the free ones.

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The converter itself is free. You can always convert your audio files to
wave and then record them using your regular software.

"Norm at Home" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:5P8Za.18$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described
immediately
> below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an ordinary cd...and
> tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player with the results you
> sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes audio
CD
> creation a breeze, never before has it been just so easy to create an
Audio
> CD and we are not just talking Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)
> playable in any CD player, also fancy mp3, WMA (Windows Media Audio) or
even
> Ogg Vorbis CDs, the choice is yours depending upon the type of CD player.
> Plenty of existing audio formats, if not nearly all, are accepted (through
> Codec Downloads) to be Converted to an Audio CD.
> dCW is Shareware, it can be tried without obligation for 30 days,
> after 30 days dCW should either be registered or uninstalled. Register dCW
> here.
>
>

dadiOH wrote:
> Norm at Home wrote:
>> Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described
>> immediately below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an
>> ordinary cd...and tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player
>> with the results you sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD
>> Writer (dCW) makes audio CD creation a breeze, never before has it
>> been just so easy to create an Audio CD and we are not just talking
>> Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)...
>> <snip>
>
> Yes you are...the number of files you can get on an audio CD is always
> determined by total playing time. You didn't "copy MP3s" either. They were
> decoded to wave...something which is necessary and done by virtually all
> burning programs automatically. Even the free ones.

Dadioh,
I'm not real big into music, but I've seen other people make .mp3
discs that hold a *lot* of music. I know that they don't convert the
files to regular redbook format and that you can't use the discs with
some older CD players. Does this take a special program to do this and
if so, can you recommend any good freeware for doing it?

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"John Corliss" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> dadiOH wrote:
> > Norm at Home wrote:
> >> Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described
> >> immediately below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an
> >> ordinary cd...and tried playing them on a downscale portable cd
player
> >> with the results you sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP
CD
> >> Writer (dCW) makes audio CD creation a breeze, never before has it
> >> been just so easy to create an Audio CD and we are not just talking
> >> Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)...
> >> <snip>
> >
> > Yes you are...the number of files you can get on an audio CD is
always
> > determined by total playing time. You didn't "copy MP3s" either.
They were
> > decoded to wave...something which is necessary and done by virtually
all
> > burning programs automatically. Even the free ones.
>
> Dadioh,
> I'm not real big into music, but I've seen other people make .mp3
> discs that hold a *lot* of music. I know that they don't convert the
> files to regular redbook format and that you can't use the discs with
> some older CD players. Does this take a special program to do this and
> if so, can you recommend any good freeware for doing it?
>
I may be misunderstanding your question, but...if burned to CD as an
audio CD the program will usually convert them to wav's on the fly.

You might get 20-30 on a disk depending on song length/file size.

But if you burn it as a DATA disk (mp3's), then you can put maybe even
hundreds of files on one disk. But it can only be played in the
computer.

Otherwise, I don't know of any other way to do what you suggest.

If you're talking about making a data music disk you need to make sure that
you're mp3 player also plays other formats such as wmp if you're going to
use that. Many of the newer disk based cd/mp3 players will do this.
"dansheen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The converter itself is free. You can always convert your audio files to
> wave and then record them using your regular software.
>
> "Norm at Home" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:5P8Za.18$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described
> immediately
> > below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an ordinary cd...and
> > tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player with the results
you
> > sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes
audio
> CD
> > creation a breeze, never before has it been just so easy to create an
> Audio
> > CD and we are not just talking Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)
> > playable in any CD player, also fancy mp3, WMA (Windows Media Audio) or
> even
> > Ogg Vorbis CDs, the choice is yours depending upon the type of CD
player.
> > Plenty of existing audio formats, if not nearly all, are accepted
(through
> > Codec Downloads) to be Converted to an Audio CD.
> > dCW is Shareware, it can be tried without obligation for 30 days,
> > after 30 days dCW should either be registered or uninstalled. Register
dCW
> > here.
> >
> >
>
>

Mister Charlie wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> (clipped)
>>Dadioh,
>> I'm not real big into music, but I've seen other people make .mp3
>>discs that hold a *lot* of music. I know that they don't convert the
>>files to regular redbook format and that you can't use the discs with
>>some older CD players. Does this take a special program to do this and
>>if so, can you recommend any good freeware for doing it?
>
> I may be misunderstanding your question, but...if burned to CD as an
> audio CD the program will usually convert them to wav's on the fly.
> You might get 20-30 on a disk depending on song length/file size.

Yes, I know this. 80)> That's why I'd prefer to use .mp3 format.

> But if you burn it as a DATA disk (mp3's), then you can put maybe even
> hundreds of files on one disk. But it can only be played in the
> computer.
> Otherwise, I don't know of any other way to do what you suggest.

Newer CD and DVD players are supposed to be able to play ".mp3 CDs".
My question however, is specifically whether or not special software
is needed to create .mp3 discs and if so, are there any freeware
alternatives.
As far as I know, all you have to do to create an .mp3 disc is to
make a data disc containing the .mp3 files. You need to make sure the
disc is finalized, or it won't work in compatible players. But as for
the interval between the songs, does that take special software? I
know you can simply rename the songs so that they have 01, 02, 03 etc.
at the start of the filename so as to assure the order in which they
will be played, so you don't need to worry about playlists.
All the major commercial disc burning programs try to make you
think that you have to upgrade to their full versions in order to make
..mp3 discs, and I find it hard to believe that it's impossible without
doing so.

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Susan Bugher wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> I'm not real big into music, but I've seen other people make .mp3
>>discs that hold a *lot* of music. I know that they don't convert the
>>files to regular redbook format and that you can't use the discs with
>>some older CD players. Does this take a special program to do this and
>>if so, can you recommend any good freeware for doing it?
>
> the good news:
> No special program needed. Burn the .mp3s as a data disk.
>
> but . . .
> You must have a player that understands the MP3 format - not all new
> players do.
>
> and . . .
> I suspect results vary depending on the player - experimentation may be
> needed . . .
> The DVD/CD player I have plays files in *short* file name order. I *can*
> use folders and subfolders, songs in subfolders are played after the
> songs in higher levels.

I've heard you can put 01, 02, 03 etc. in front of the file names so
that they will play in the order you want.

> The sound was garbled in my first attempts (even though it sounded fine
> when played by the computer). Some versions of the LAME encoder don't
> work and I need *joint stereo* setting to get good results.
> figuring all this out was a real PITA (no documentation) but . . .
> I *love* my MP3 CDs - 10-12 hours of listening on one disk . . .

Thanks a lot for the tips, Susan. I'll keep a copy of your message for
reference when I make my first CD.

I guess about the only program one would need then would be one to
play them if you use your computer. To that end, the best would have
to be Zoomplayer:

http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/

I have a commercial program that came with my sound card though.

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John Corliss wrote:
>
> I've heard you can put 01, 02, 03 etc. in front of the file names so
> that they will play in the order you want.

yahbut what happens after 99?

use 001, 002 etc. (you're likely to have 100-200 files on a disk)

Susan

Susan Bugher wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>
>>I've heard you can put 01, 02, 03 etc. in front of the file names so
>>that they will play in the order you want.
>
> yahbut what happens after 99?
> use 001, 002 etc. (you're likely to have 100-200 files on a disk)

*I* knew that. 80)>

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