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W. Guy Delaney
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      3rd Jul 2003
I just converted my Access 2000 database file format from Access 2000 to
Access 2002. The 2000 database file was 5088 kb and the converted 2002 file
is 1568 kb.

Why is the 2002 file so much smaller than the 2000 file?


 
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Allen Browne
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      3rd Jul 2003
Try compacting the A2000 file: Database Utilities on the Tools menu.

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"W. Guy Delaney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I just converted my Access 2000 database file format from Access 2000 to
> Access 2002. The 2000 database file was 5088 kb and the converted 2002

file
> is 1568 kb.
>
> Why is the 2002 file so much smaller than the 2000 file?



 
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Davin Mickelson
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      3rd Jul 2003
I just discovered the same thing.
I converted Repair and Compacted Access 2000 database to Access 2002.

Before: 4.5 MB Access 2k
After: 300 KB Access XP

I was worried that something was lost but, no, it's all there.

Davin Mickelson

"Allen Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Try compacting the A2000 file: Database Utilities on the Tools menu.
>
> --
> Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
> Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
> Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")
>
> "W. Guy Delaney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I just converted my Access 2000 database file format from Access 2000 to
> > Access 2002. The 2000 database file was 5088 kb and the converted 2002

> file
> > is 1568 kb.
> >
> > Why is the 2002 file so much smaller than the 2000 file?

>
>



 
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Allen Browne
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      3rd Jul 2003
Davin, just out of interest, what happens if you create a new (blank) A2000
database, and import all the objects? How large is the result?

The A2000 (and A2002) compact/repair function is known to actually bloat the
database in some cases. Sometimes a decompile can help, but other times
importing into a new mdb is the only way to get rid of the spurious stuff.

--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")

"Davin Mickelson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I just discovered the same thing.
> I converted Repair and Compacted Access 2000 database to Access 2002.
>
> Before: 4.5 MB Access 2k
> After: 300 KB Access XP
>
> I was worried that something was lost but, no, it's all there.
>
> Davin Mickelson
>
> "Allen Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Try compacting the A2000 file: Database Utilities on the Tools menu.
> >
> > --
> > Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
> > Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
> > Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")
> >
> > "W. Guy Delaney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I just converted my Access 2000 database file format from Access 2000

to
> > > Access 2002. The 2000 database file was 5088 kb and the converted 2002

> > file
> > > is 1568 kb.
> > >
> > > Why is the 2002 file so much smaller than the 2000 file?



 
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W. Guy Delaney
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      3rd Jul 2003
This is not Davin; it's Guy and I followed your advice about importing the
objects into a new database.

The original database was 5088kb and the new database after importing the
objects was 1280kb. I had complied the database before importing into the
new database and I had also compacted it.

I am a little shocked that the old database had become so blotted. I am more
shocked, however, that none of the references or documentation that I have
read on Microsoft Access has ever even hinted at this problem. Why do you
suppose that this is so?

I had noticed that my database had begun to grow, even after only small
inserts. I assumed that Tools>Database Utilities>Compact and Repair Database
.. . . would take care of all that. Apparently not.

Any explanation why importing into a new database is such a well kept
secret? Or better yet, why Compact and Repair really doesn't finish the job
or at least why Microsoft doesn't tell us that it falls short of its
mission?


"Allen Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Davin, just out of interest, what happens if you create a new (blank)

A2000
> database, and import all the objects? How large is the result?
>
> The A2000 (and A2002) compact/repair function is known to actually bloat

the
> database in some cases. Sometimes a decompile can help, but other times
> importing into a new mdb is the only way to get rid of the spurious stuff.
>
> --
> Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
> Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
> Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")
>
> "Davin Mickelson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I just discovered the same thing.
> > I converted Repair and Compacted Access 2000 database to Access 2002.
> >
> > Before: 4.5 MB Access 2k
> > After: 300 KB Access XP
> >
> > I was worried that something was lost but, no, it's all there.
> >
> > Davin Mickelson
> >
> > "Allen Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Try compacting the A2000 file: Database Utilities on the Tools menu.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
> > > Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
> > > Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")
> > >
> > > "W. Guy Delaney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > I just converted my Access 2000 database file format from Access

2000
> to
> > > > Access 2002. The 2000 database file was 5088 kb and the converted

2002
> > > file
> > > > is 1568 kb.
> > > >
> > > > Why is the 2002 file so much smaller than the 2000 file?

>
>



 
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Allen Browne
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      3rd Jul 2003
This may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=810415

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Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")

"W. Guy Delaney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is not Davin; it's Guy and I followed your advice about importing the
> objects into a new database.
>
> The original database was 5088kb and the new database after importing the
> objects was 1280kb. I had complied the database before importing into the
> new database and I had also compacted it.
>
> I am a little shocked that the old database had become so blotted. I am

more
> shocked, however, that none of the references or documentation that I have
> read on Microsoft Access has ever even hinted at this problem. Why do you
> suppose that this is so?
>
> I had noticed that my database had begun to grow, even after only small
> inserts. I assumed that Tools>Database Utilities>Compact and Repair

Database
> . . . would take care of all that. Apparently not.
>
> Any explanation why importing into a new database is such a well kept
> secret? Or better yet, why Compact and Repair really doesn't finish the

job
> or at least why Microsoft doesn't tell us that it falls short of its
> mission?
>
>
> "Allen Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Davin, just out of interest, what happens if you create a new (blank)

> A2000
> > database, and import all the objects? How large is the result?
> >
> > The A2000 (and A2002) compact/repair function is known to actually bloat

> the
> > database in some cases. Sometimes a decompile can help, but other times
> > importing into a new mdb is the only way to get rid of the spurious

stuff.
> >
> > --
> > Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
> > Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
> > Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")
> >
> > "Davin Mickelson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I just discovered the same thing.
> > > I converted Repair and Compacted Access 2000 database to Access 2002.
> > >
> > > Before: 4.5 MB Access 2k
> > > After: 300 KB Access XP
> > >
> > > I was worried that something was lost but, no, it's all there.
> > >
> > > Davin Mickelson
> > >
> > > "Allen Browne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Try compacting the A2000 file: Database Utilities on the Tools menu.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
> > > > Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
> > > > Reply to the newsgroup. (Email address has spurious "_SpamTrap")
> > > >
> > > > "W. Guy Delaney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > I just converted my Access 2000 database file format from Access

> 2000
> > to
> > > > > Access 2002. The 2000 database file was 5088 kb and the converted

> 2002
> > > > file
> > > > > is 1568 kb.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is the 2002 file so much smaller than the 2000 file?



 
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