I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp home
edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2. When I
couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous beeping, I
moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue screen
of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
(0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows no
errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2 identical
errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows: crypt32
event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed auto
update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested operation. No
further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a windows
xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting. (this
gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change anything.)
I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing seems
to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2, both
of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks into
slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?

Terry wrote :
> I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp home
> edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2. When I
> couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous beeping, I
> moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue screen
> of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
> Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
> (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows no
> errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2 identical
> errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows: crypt32
> event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed auto
> update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
> http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
> with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested operation. No
> further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a windows
> xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
> drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting. (this
> gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change anything.)
> I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing seems
> to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2, both
> of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks into
> slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?

Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...G=Search&meta=

This behavior occurs because your computer processor detected and
reported an unrecoverable hardware error to Windows XP. To do this, the
processor used the Machine Check Exception (MCE) feature of Pentium
processors or the Machine Check Architecture (MCA) feature of some
Pentium Pro processors. The following factors may cause this error
message:

* System bus errors
* Memory errors that may include parity or Error Correction Code
(ECC) problems
* Cache errors in the processor or hardware
* Translation Lookaside Buffers (TLB) errors in the processor
* Other CPU-vendor specific detected hardware problems
* Vendor-specific detected hardware problems

It happens that Terry formulated :
Do I need to go buy an Apple?

Opp's, forgot this link.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329284

Terry wrote:
> I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp home
> edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2. When I
> couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous beeping, I
> moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue screen
> of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
> Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
> (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows no
> errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2 identical
> errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows: crypt32
> event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed auto
> update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
> http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
> with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested operation. No
> further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a windows
> xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
> drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting. (this
> gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change anything.)
> I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing seems
> to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2, both
> of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks into
> slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?

Could you give the motherboard make and exact model number ?

Or, if this is a Dell/HP/Acer/Gateway, the complete make and model of the computer ?

Also, the processors have "steppings", and 4400+ may not be a sufficient
identifier of the exact processor. These are two examples I can find,
and these are virtually identical (save for power consumed).

AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (110 watts)
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=69

AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (89 watts)
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=70

In this example for an Asus motherboard (A8N32-SLI Deluxe), two different
BIOS releases are the minimum versions to run the two example processors.
Any BIOS later than 0703, would handle either of them.

http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusuppor...2-SLI%20Deluxe

Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(110W Socket939) ALL 0703
Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(89W Socket939) ALL 0502

Before purchasing the new processor, did you check what processors the
BIOS supports ? Some motherboards and their BIOS, add support as time
goes by, for newer processors. But in some cases, while the socket
may be compatible, the processor still won't work. (Some companies
making S754 boards, for example, didn't add support for the last
processors AMD introduced for that socket. Too lazy...)

Before installing or using any high level OS, you should test the computer
for integrity with things like memtest86+ from memtest.org . That does
a basic test, that the memory is stable. You should not boot another OS
(at least on a hard drive, where the data can be corrupted), until
the memory is error free.

A second test for a computer which has had a major modification, is
to boot a Linux LiveCD, such as Knoppix or Ubuntu, then run a copy
of Prime95 from mersenne.org . That is a combined CPU and memory
tester, and is a more stressful test than memtest86+ is. The Linux
LiveCD cannot be corrupted, since it is read only. A LiveCD does
not need to be installed on the hard disk. For example, I boot
my Knoppix CD all the time, for maintenance purposes, and by
default, it runs all the disk mounts read-only. You have to
make an extra effort, if you need to write to a disk. So testing
with such an environment, is a more benign way, than booting
Windows only to discover your install is corrupted by your
new hardware. The working directory in that environment (where
you might download the mersenne.org test program), is a ramdisk.

Since the processor is rather old by modern standards, it
could have been abused by a previous owner. There are things
like "electromigration", where a processor, if overclocked and
overvolted, can no longer even run properly at stock speed. At
least one guy on an enthusiast site, had no qualms about
selling his damaged processors, to people on Ebay.

You should return to a "known baseline system". Put your old
processor back in the system, the old working RAM, and retest.
Is the system stable ? Does it act goofy ? Does the problem
continue to dog the system, when the new 4400+ dual is installed ?

Paul

Thank you for the help. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF. I did check the
compatability prior to ordering the cpu. I also flashed the bios to the
latest version . . .in this case F8. I did reinstall the old cpu and the
memory prior to starting all this when the beeping occurred at first
installation. It worked fine and was stable. I don't know now if it would
work because one of the steps I have taken is to upgrade the cpu drivers from
single to dual core and from what I have read it is easier to go from single
to dual than to go backward. One other point that could help this diagnosis
is that although the device manager shows two processors, the task manager is
only showing one cpu graph.

Again, thanks for the response. I will try running the memtest and get back
to you. I will also try to make and boot the Linux CD but I am not at all
familiar so it makes me shudder LOL.

"Paul" wrote:

> Terry wrote:
> > I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp home
> > edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2. When I
> > couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous beeping, I
> > moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue screen
> > of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
> > Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
> > (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows no
> > errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2 identical
> > errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows: crypt32
> > event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed auto
> > update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
> > http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
> > with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested operation. No
> > further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a windows
> > xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
> > drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting. (this
> > gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change anything.)
> > I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing seems
> > to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2, both
> > of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks into
> > slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?
>
> Could you give the motherboard make and exact model number ?
>
> Or, if this is a Dell/HP/Acer/Gateway, the complete make and model of the computer ?
>
> Also, the processors have "steppings", and 4400+ may not be a sufficient
> identifier of the exact processor. These are two examples I can find,
> and these are virtually identical (save for power consumed).
>
> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (110 watts)
> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=69
>
> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (89 watts)
> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=70
>
> In this example for an Asus motherboard (A8N32-SLI Deluxe), two different
> BIOS releases are the minimum versions to run the two example processors.
> Any BIOS later than 0703, would handle either of them.
>
> http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusuppor...2-SLI%20Deluxe
>
> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(110W Socket939) ALL 0703
> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(89W Socket939) ALL 0502
>
> Before purchasing the new processor, did you check what processors the
> BIOS supports ? Some motherboards and their BIOS, add support as time
> goes by, for newer processors. But in some cases, while the socket
> may be compatible, the processor still won't work. (Some companies
> making S754 boards, for example, didn't add support for the last
> processors AMD introduced for that socket. Too lazy...)
>
> Before installing or using any high level OS, you should test the computer
> for integrity with things like memtest86+ from memtest.org . That does
> a basic test, that the memory is stable. You should not boot another OS
> (at least on a hard drive, where the data can be corrupted), until
> the memory is error free.
>
> A second test for a computer which has had a major modification, is
> to boot a Linux LiveCD, such as Knoppix or Ubuntu, then run a copy
> of Prime95 from mersenne.org . That is a combined CPU and memory
> tester, and is a more stressful test than memtest86+ is. The Linux
> LiveCD cannot be corrupted, since it is read only. A LiveCD does
> not need to be installed on the hard disk. For example, I boot
> my Knoppix CD all the time, for maintenance purposes, and by
> default, it runs all the disk mounts read-only. You have to
> make an extra effort, if you need to write to a disk. So testing
> with such an environment, is a more benign way, than booting
> Windows only to discover your install is corrupted by your
> new hardware. The working directory in that environment (where
> you might download the mersenne.org test program), is a ramdisk.
>
> Since the processor is rather old by modern standards, it
> could have been abused by a previous owner. There are things
> like "electromigration", where a processor, if overclocked and
> overvolted, can no longer even run properly at stock speed. At
> least one guy on an enthusiast site, had no qualms about
> selling his damaged processors, to people on Ebay.
>
> You should return to a "known baseline system". Put your old
> processor back in the system, the old working RAM, and retest.
> Is the system stable ? Does it act goofy ? Does the problem
> continue to dog the system, when the new 4400+ dual is installed ?
>
> Paul
>

According to the manual for that board, it supports the AMD 64, but not the
AMD 64x2. Hence your problem.

SC Tom

"Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsC695468-1E7D-4AA7-9D47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you for the help. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF. I did check
> the
> compatability prior to ordering the cpu. I also flashed the bios to the
> latest version . . .in this case F8. I did reinstall the old cpu and the
> memory prior to starting all this when the beeping occurred at first
> installation. It worked fine and was stable. I don't know now if it would
> work because one of the steps I have taken is to upgrade the cpu drivers
> from
> single to dual core and from what I have read it is easier to go from
> single
> to dual than to go backward. One other point that could help this
> diagnosis
> is that although the device manager shows two processors, the task manager
> is
> only showing one cpu graph.
>
> Again, thanks for the response. I will try running the memtest and get
> back
> to you. I will also try to make and boot the Linux CD but I am not at all
> familiar so it makes me shudder LOL.
>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
>> Terry wrote:
>> > I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp
>> > home
>> > edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2.
>> > When I
>> > couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous
>> > beeping, I
>> > moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue
>> > screen
>> > of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
>> > Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
>> > (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows
>> > no
>> > errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2
>> > identical
>> > errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows:
>> > crypt32
>> > event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed
>> > auto
>> > update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
>> > http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
>> > with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested
>> > operation. No
>> > further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a
>> > windows
>> > xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
>> > drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting.
>> > (this
>> > gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change
>> > anything.)
>> > I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing
>> > seems
>> > to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2,
>> > both
>> > of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks
>> > into
>> > slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?
>>
>> Could you give the motherboard make and exact model number ?
>>
>> Or, if this is a Dell/HP/Acer/Gateway, the complete make and model of the
>> computer ?
>>
>> Also, the processors have "steppings", and 4400+ may not be a sufficient
>> identifier of the exact processor. These are two examples I can find,
>> and these are virtually identical (save for power consumed).
>>
>> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (110 watts)
>> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=69
>>
>> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (89 watts)
>> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=70
>>
>> In this example for an Asus motherboard (A8N32-SLI Deluxe), two different
>> BIOS releases are the minimum versions to run the two example processors.
>> Any BIOS later than 0703, would handle either of them.
>>
>> http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusuppor...2-SLI%20Deluxe
>>
>> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(110W Socket939) ALL 0703
>> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(89W Socket939) ALL 0502
>>
>> Before purchasing the new processor, did you check what processors the
>> BIOS supports ? Some motherboards and their BIOS, add support as time
>> goes by, for newer processors. But in some cases, while the socket
>> may be compatible, the processor still won't work. (Some companies
>> making S754 boards, for example, didn't add support for the last
>> processors AMD introduced for that socket. Too lazy...)
>>
>> Before installing or using any high level OS, you should test the
>> computer
>> for integrity with things like memtest86+ from memtest.org . That does
>> a basic test, that the memory is stable. You should not boot another OS
>> (at least on a hard drive, where the data can be corrupted), until
>> the memory is error free.
>>
>> A second test for a computer which has had a major modification, is
>> to boot a Linux LiveCD, such as Knoppix or Ubuntu, then run a copy
>> of Prime95 from mersenne.org . That is a combined CPU and memory
>> tester, and is a more stressful test than memtest86+ is. The Linux
>> LiveCD cannot be corrupted, since it is read only. A LiveCD does
>> not need to be installed on the hard disk. For example, I boot
>> my Knoppix CD all the time, for maintenance purposes, and by
>> default, it runs all the disk mounts read-only. You have to
>> make an extra effort, if you need to write to a disk. So testing
>> with such an environment, is a more benign way, than booting
>> Windows only to discover your install is corrupted by your
>> new hardware. The working directory in that environment (where
>> you might download the mersenne.org test program), is a ramdisk.
>>
>> Since the processor is rather old by modern standards, it
>> could have been abused by a previous owner. There are things
>> like "electromigration", where a processor, if overclocked and
>> overvolted, can no longer even run properly at stock speed. At
>> least one guy on an enthusiast site, had no qualms about
>> selling his damaged processors, to people on Ebay.
>>
>> You should return to a "known baseline system". Put your old
>> processor back in the system, the old working RAM, and retest.
>> Is the system stable ? Does it act goofy ? Does the problem
>> continue to dog the system, when the new 4400+ dual is installed ?
>>
>> Paul
>>

This is from the manual and as you can see it shows that the chip IS supported:
GA-K8N51GMF-9 Motherboard - 10 -
English
CPU 􀂊 Socket 939 for AMD SempronTM / AthlonTM 64 / AthlonTM 64 FX /
AthlonTM 64 X2 Dual-Core processor (K8)
􀂊 2000MT/s system bus
􀂊 Supports core frequencies in excess of 3000+ and faster
Chipset 􀂊 Northbridge: nVIDIA® GeForce 6100
􀂊 Southbridge: nVIDIA® nForce 430
􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
Memory 􀂊 4 DDR DIMM memory slots (supports up to 4GB memory) (Note 1)
􀂊 Supports dual channel DDR 400/333/266/200 DIMM
Slots 􀂊 1 PCI Express x 16 slot
􀂊 1 PCI Express x 1 slot
􀂊 2 PCI slots
IDE Connections 􀂊 2 IDE connection (UDMA 33/ATA 66/ATA 100/ATA 133), allows
connection
of 4 IDE devices
􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
FDD Connections 􀂊 1 FDD connection, allows connection of 1 FDD device
Onboard SATA 􀂊 4 SATA 3Gb/s ports from nVIDIA® nForce 430 controller
3Gb/s 􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
Peripherals 􀂊 1 parallel port supporting Normal/EPP/ECP mode
􀂊 1 VGA port, onboard COMA connection
􀂊 8 USB 2.0/1.1 ports (rear x 4, front x 4 via cable)
􀂊 2 IEEE1394 ports (rear x 1, front x1 via cable)
􀂊 1 front audio connector
􀂊 1 PS/2 keyboard port
􀂊 1 PS/2 mouse port
Onboard VGA 􀂊 Built-in nVIDIA® GeForce 6100 Chipset
Onboard LAN 􀂊 VITESSE 8201 phy (10/100/1000Mbit)
􀂊 1 RJ45 port
􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
Onboard Audio 􀂊 ALC880 CODEC
􀂊 High Definition Audio
􀂊 Supports 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 channel audio
􀂊 Supports Line In ; Line Out (Front Speaker Out) ; MIC ; Surround Speaker
Out (Rear Speaker Out) ; Center/Subwoofer Speaker Out ; Side Speaker
Out connection
􀂊 SPDIF In/Out connection
􀂊 CD In connection
􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems

"SC Tom" wrote:

> According to the manual for that board, it supports the AMD 64, but not the
> AMD 64x2. Hence your problem.
>
> SC Tom
>
> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsC695468-1E7D-4AA7-9D47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thank you for the help. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF. I did check
> > the
> > compatability prior to ordering the cpu. I also flashed the bios to the
> > latest version . . .in this case F8. I did reinstall the old cpu and the
> > memory prior to starting all this when the beeping occurred at first
> > installation. It worked fine and was stable. I don't know now if it would
> > work because one of the steps I have taken is to upgrade the cpu drivers
> > from
> > single to dual core and from what I have read it is easier to go from
> > single
> > to dual than to go backward. One other point that could help this
> > diagnosis
> > is that although the device manager shows two processors, the task manager
> > is
> > only showing one cpu graph.
> >
> > Again, thanks for the response. I will try running the memtest and get
> > back
> > to you. I will also try to make and boot the Linux CD but I am not at all
> > familiar so it makes me shudder LOL.
> >
> > "Paul" wrote:
> >
> >> Terry wrote:
> >> > I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp
> >> > home
> >> > edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2.
> >> > When I
> >> > couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous
> >> > beeping, I
> >> > moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue
> >> > screen
> >> > of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
> >> > Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
> >> > (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows
> >> > no
> >> > errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2
> >> > identical
> >> > errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows:
> >> > crypt32
> >> > event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed
> >> > auto
> >> > update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
> >> > http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
> >> > with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested
> >> > operation. No
> >> > further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a
> >> > windows
> >> > xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
> >> > drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting.
> >> > (this
> >> > gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change
> >> > anything.)
> >> > I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing
> >> > seems
> >> > to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2,
> >> > both
> >> > of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks
> >> > into
> >> > slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?
> >>
> >> Could you give the motherboard make and exact model number ?
> >>
> >> Or, if this is a Dell/HP/Acer/Gateway, the complete make and model of the
> >> computer ?
> >>
> >> Also, the processors have "steppings", and 4400+ may not be a sufficient
> >> identifier of the exact processor. These are two examples I can find,
> >> and these are virtually identical (save for power consumed).
> >>
> >> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (110 watts)
> >> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=69
> >>
> >> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (89 watts)
> >> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=70
> >>
> >> In this example for an Asus motherboard (A8N32-SLI Deluxe), two different
> >> BIOS releases are the minimum versions to run the two example processors.
> >> Any BIOS later than 0703, would handle either of them.
> >>
> >> http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusuppor...2-SLI%20Deluxe
> >>
> >> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(110W Socket939) ALL 0703
> >> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(89W Socket939) ALL 0502
> >>
> >> Before purchasing the new processor, did you check what processors the
> >> BIOS supports ? Some motherboards and their BIOS, add support as time
> >> goes by, for newer processors. But in some cases, while the socket
> >> may be compatible, the processor still won't work. (Some companies
> >> making S754 boards, for example, didn't add support for the last
> >> processors AMD introduced for that socket. Too lazy...)
> >>
> >> Before installing or using any high level OS, you should test the
> >> computer
> >> for integrity with things like memtest86+ from memtest.org . That does
> >> a basic test, that the memory is stable. You should not boot another OS
> >> (at least on a hard drive, where the data can be corrupted), until
> >> the memory is error free.
> >>
> >> A second test for a computer which has had a major modification, is
> >> to boot a Linux LiveCD, such as Knoppix or Ubuntu, then run a copy
> >> of Prime95 from mersenne.org . That is a combined CPU and memory
> >> tester, and is a more stressful test than memtest86+ is. The Linux
> >> LiveCD cannot be corrupted, since it is read only. A LiveCD does
> >> not need to be installed on the hard disk. For example, I boot
> >> my Knoppix CD all the time, for maintenance purposes, and by
> >> default, it runs all the disk mounts read-only. You have to
> >> make an extra effort, if you need to write to a disk. So testing
> >> with such an environment, is a more benign way, than booting
> >> Windows only to discover your install is corrupted by your
> >> new hardware. The working directory in that environment (where
> >> you might download the mersenne.org test program), is a ramdisk.
> >>
> >> Since the processor is rather old by modern standards, it
> >> could have been abused by a previous owner. There are things
> >> like "electromigration", where a processor, if overclocked and
> >> overvolted, can no longer even run properly at stock speed. At
> >> least one guy on an enthusiast site, had no qualms about
> >> selling his damaged processors, to people on Ebay.
> >>
> >> You should return to a "known baseline system". Put your old
> >> processor back in the system, the old working RAM, and retest.
> >> Is the system stable ? Does it act goofy ? Does the problem
> >> continue to dog the system, when the new 4400+ dual is installed ?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
>
>

Oh also I cannot run anything that requires booting from any place other than
the hard drive.

"Terry" wrote:

> This is from the manual and as you can see it shows that the chip IS supported:
> GA-K8N51GMF-9 Motherboard - 10 -
> English
> CPU 􀂊 Socket 939 for AMD SempronTM / AthlonTM 64 / AthlonTM 64 FX /
> AthlonTM 64 X2 Dual-Core processor (K8)
> 􀂊 2000MT/s system bus
> 􀂊 Supports core frequencies in excess of 3000+ and faster
> Chipset 􀂊 Northbridge: nVIDIA® GeForce 6100
> 􀂊 Southbridge: nVIDIA® nForce 430
> 􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
> Memory 􀂊 4 DDR DIMM memory slots (supports up to 4GB memory) (Note 1)
> 􀂊 Supports dual channel DDR 400/333/266/200 DIMM
> Slots 􀂊 1 PCI Express x 16 slot
> 􀂊 1 PCI Express x 1 slot
> 􀂊 2 PCI slots
> IDE Connections 􀂊 2 IDE connection (UDMA 33/ATA 66/ATA 100/ATA 133), allows
> connection
> of 4 IDE devices
> 􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
> FDD Connections 􀂊 1 FDD connection, allows connection of 1 FDD device
> Onboard SATA 􀂊 4 SATA 3Gb/s ports from nVIDIA® nForce 430 controller
> 3Gb/s 􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
> Peripherals 􀂊 1 parallel port supporting Normal/EPP/ECP mode
> 􀂊 1 VGA port, onboard COMA connection
> 􀂊 8 USB 2.0/1.1 ports (rear x 4, front x 4 via cable)
> 􀂊 2 IEEE1394 ports (rear x 1, front x1 via cable)
> 􀂊 1 front audio connector
> 􀂊 1 PS/2 keyboard port
> 􀂊 1 PS/2 mouse port
> Onboard VGA 􀂊 Built-in nVIDIA® GeForce 6100 Chipset
> Onboard LAN 􀂊 VITESSE 8201 phy (10/100/1000Mbit)
> 􀂊 1 RJ45 port
> 􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
> Onboard Audio 􀂊 ALC880 CODEC
> 􀂊 High Definition Audio
> 􀂊 Supports 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 channel audio
> 􀂊 Supports Line In ; Line Out (Front Speaker Out) ; MIC ; Surround Speaker
> Out (Rear Speaker Out) ; Center/Subwoofer Speaker Out ; Side Speaker
> Out connection
> 􀂊 SPDIF In/Out connection
> 􀂊 CD In connection
> 􀂊 Supported on the Win 2000/XP operating systems
>
> "SC Tom" wrote:
>
> > According to the manual for that board, it supports the AMD 64, but not the
> > AMD 64x2. Hence your problem.
> >
> > SC Tom
> >
> > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > newsC695468-1E7D-4AA7-9D47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Thank you for the help. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF. I did check
> > > the
> > > compatability prior to ordering the cpu. I also flashed the bios to the
> > > latest version . . .in this case F8. I did reinstall the old cpu and the
> > > memory prior to starting all this when the beeping occurred at first
> > > installation. It worked fine and was stable. I don't know now if it would
> > > work because one of the steps I have taken is to upgrade the cpu drivers
> > > from
> > > single to dual core and from what I have read it is easier to go from
> > > single
> > > to dual than to go backward. One other point that could help this
> > > diagnosis
> > > is that although the device manager shows two processors, the task manager
> > > is
> > > only showing one cpu graph.
> > >
> > > Again, thanks for the response. I will try running the memtest and get
> > > back
> > > to you. I will also try to make and boot the Linux CD but I am not at all
> > > familiar so it makes me shudder LOL.
> > >
> > > "Paul" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Terry wrote:
> > >> > I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp
> > >> > home
> > >> > edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2.
> > >> > When I
> > >> > couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous
> > >> > beeping, I
> > >> > moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue
> > >> > screen
> > >> > of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
> > >> > Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
> > >> > (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows
> > >> > no
> > >> > errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2
> > >> > identical
> > >> > errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows:
> > >> > crypt32
> > >> > event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed
> > >> > auto
> > >> > update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
> > >> > http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootseq.txt>
> > >> > with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested
> > >> > operation. No
> > >> > further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a
> > >> > windows
> > >> > xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
> > >> > drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting.
> > >> > (this
> > >> > gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change
> > >> > anything.)
> > >> > I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing
> > >> > seems
> > >> > to help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2,
> > >> > both
> > >> > of which caused the beeping, I just tried putting 2 256 ram sticks
> > >> > into
> > >> > slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! Do I need to go buy an Apple?
> > >>
> > >> Could you give the motherboard make and exact model number ?
> > >>
> > >> Or, if this is a Dell/HP/Acer/Gateway, the complete make and model of the
> > >> computer ?
> > >>
> > >> Also, the processors have "steppings", and 4400+ may not be a sufficient
> > >> identifier of the exact processor. These are two examples I can find,
> > >> and these are virtually identical (save for power consumed).
> > >>
> > >> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (110 watts)
> > >> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=69
> > >>
> > >> AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 4400+ E6 (89 watts)
> > >> http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...ail.aspx?id=70
> > >>
> > >> In this example for an Asus motherboard (A8N32-SLI Deluxe), two different
> > >> BIOS releases are the minimum versions to run the two example processors.
> > >> Any BIOS later than 0703, would handle either of them.
> > >>
> > >> http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusuppor...2-SLI%20Deluxe
> > >>
> > >> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(110W Socket939) ALL 0703
> > >> Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4400+ revE6(89W Socket939) ALL 0502
> > >>
> > >> Before purchasing the new processor, did you check what processors the
> > >> BIOS supports ? Some motherboards and their BIOS, add support as time
> > >> goes by, for newer processors. But in some cases, while the socket
> > >> may be compatible, the processor still won't work. (Some companies
> > >> making S754 boards, for example, didn't add support for the last
> > >> processors AMD introduced for that socket. Too lazy...)
> > >>
> > >> Before installing or using any high level OS, you should test the
> > >> computer
> > >> for integrity with things like memtest86+ from memtest.org . That does
> > >> a basic test, that the memory is stable. You should not boot another OS
> > >> (at least on a hard drive, where the data can be corrupted), until
> > >> the memory is error free.
> > >>
> > >> A second test for a computer which has had a major modification, is
> > >> to boot a Linux LiveCD, such as Knoppix or Ubuntu, then run a copy
> > >> of Prime95 from mersenne.org . That is a combined CPU and memory
> > >> tester, and is a more stressful test than memtest86+ is. The Linux
> > >> LiveCD cannot be corrupted, since it is read only. A LiveCD does
> > >> not need to be installed on the hard disk. For example, I boot
> > >> my Knoppix CD all the time, for maintenance purposes, and by
> > >> default, it runs all the disk mounts read-only. You have to
> > >> make an extra effort, if you need to write to a disk. So testing
> > >> with such an environment, is a more benign way, than booting
> > >> Windows only to discover your install is corrupted by your
> > >> new hardware. The working directory in that environment (where
> > >> you might download the mersenne.org test program), is a ramdisk.
> > >>
> > >> Since the processor is rather old by modern standards, it
> > >> could have been abused by a previous owner. There are things
> > >> like "electromigration", where a processor, if overclocked and
> > >> overvolted, can no longer even run properly at stock speed. At
> > >> least one guy on an enthusiast site, had no qualms about
> > >> selling his damaged processors, to people on Ebay.
> > >>
> > >> You should return to a "known baseline system". Put your old
> > >> processor back in the system, the old working RAM, and retest.
> > >> Is the system stable ? Does it act goofy ? Does the problem
> > >> continue to dog the system, when the new 4400+ dual is installed ?
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> >
> >

On May 25, 1:43*am, Terry <Te...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I installed a new cpu in my amd athlon socket 939 computer that runs xp home
> edition. The old chip was a amd 3200+ and the new chip is a 4400 64x2. When I
> couldn't get the ram to work in slots 1 and 2 due to continuous beeping, I
> moved to slots 3 & 4. Everything works now but I am getting the blue screen
> of death a couple of time a day. The error code is as follows:
> Machine_check_exception STOP:A 0X0000009C
> (0X00000004,0X8054e5f0f,0XB2000000,0X00070F0F). The event viewer shows no
> errors in security, system, or internet explorer, but does show 2 identical
> errors in application, both occuring at the same time and as follows: crypt32
> event 8.Source: Crypt32. This is further identified as follows: Failed auto
> update retrieval of third-party root list sequence number from:
> http//www.download.windowsupdate.dom/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/e...>
> with error: This specified server cannot perform the requested operation.No
> further info is available by going to the web site. I tried to do a windows
> xp repair but I can't get the system to boot from anything but the hard
> drive. I have tried resetting the bios and hitting f12 while booting. (this
> gives me the boot selection screen but I lock up and can't change anything.)
> I have tried to reset the COMOS and I have flashed the bios but nothing seems
> to *help. After trying two different sets of 512 memory in slots 1 & 2,both
> of which caused the beeping, I just *tried putting 2 256 ram sticks into
> slots 1 and 2 and they work. DANG! *Do I need to go buy an Apple?

The beeps come from the BIOS and are trying to tell you something is
wrong. If you know how to interpret the beeps, you can get past the
problem by fixing it.

If you look in the BIOS documentation (on or about page 75) there is a
section about different beep patterns (1 short beep is generally good)
and what the other beep codes are trying to tell you. This depends on
if your BIOS is AMI or AWARD according to the documentation.

You describe continous beeping. Is that 1 long, 9 short? Is it 7 or
8 or 9 or 10 or 11 short beeps? Is it continous longs or continuous
shorts?

Anything more than one short beep will give you the information you
need as to what to do next, but you have to read the manual for the
interpretation.

If you have the RAM is slots 1 and 2 and you get more than a short
beep, you need to stop there and figure out why.

Moving the RAM to slots 3 and 4 is not fixing the problem and it just
doesn't feel right, does it?

If your 512 RAMS don't work in slots 1 and 2 (and you sound sure they
should) and cause more than one short beep and your 256 RAMS do work,
I think I would figure that part out first.

Does a single 512 RAM in slot 1 work? Does the other single RAM work
in slot 1? Maybe one RAM is defective. By switching both at the same
time, you can't tell if it is one or both, or neither. If the 256
works in slot 1 and 2, the slots should be good, right? Are you 100%
sure both 512s are exactly the same?

MB jumpers? Incompatible BIOS? Wrong speed? Upside down ? If the
RAM is "bad", you will get a different symptom.

Get past the beeps first. They are not good.

Jose

Terry wrote:
> Thank you for the help. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF. I did check the
> compatability prior to ordering the cpu. I also flashed the bios to the
> latest version . . .in this case F8. I did reinstall the old cpu and the
> memory prior to starting all this when the beeping occurred at first
> installation. It worked fine and was stable. I don't know now if it would
> work because one of the steps I have taken is to upgrade the cpu drivers from
> single to dual core and from what I have read it is easier to go from single
> to dual than to go backward. One other point that could help this diagnosis
> is that although the device manager shows two processors, the task manager is
> only showing one cpu graph.
>
> Again, thanks for the response. I will try running the memtest and get back
> to you. I will also try to make and boot the Linux CD but I am not at all
> familiar so it makes me shudder LOL.
>

I looked up that motherboard, and that one is Socket 754. Check the
motherboard model number again. You said in your original post,
the socket is S939.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...1950#anchor_os

Paul