OS: XP home pkg 2

I need a little bit more clearity to my 11/14/06 question "administrator
"access denied" error". I must of ended the link by closing or rating the
response.

First I did tried to do my homework in searching through the questions and
replies about "system administrator" so I have a sort of low level
understanding of it, why it is there and the purpose of it is a mystery.

My main goal is to be able to access and apply the System Config
Utility>Startup. I want to minimize the number of startup programs thereby
reducing memory. Andrew E. gave me a good reply that there's actually a
System Admin in addition to mine that I can see in Safe Mode bootup and that
I can make changes there. Well I've tried Safe Mode and I can not make
changes to the system config startup as either myself or the system admin (of
course) so I don't understand what I can change to allow myself to have admin
authority without conflicting with the system admin. So any ideas to get
around system admin and why in the h#$% is it there. Maybe there is another
way to get minimize startup programs too.

Appreciate you help.
--
Colorado Mike

"Mike" wrote

> OS: XP home pkg 2
>
> I need a little bit more clearity to my 11/14/06 question "administrator
> "access denied" error". I must of ended the link by closing or rating the
> response.
>
> First I did tried to do my homework in searching through the questions and
> replies about "system administrator" so I have a sort of low level
> understanding of it, why it is there and the purpose of it is a mystery.
>
> My main goal is to be able to access and apply the System Config
> Utility>Startup. I want to minimize the number of startup programs
> thereby
> reducing memory. Andrew E. gave me a good reply that there's actually a
> System Admin in addition to mine that I can see in Safe Mode bootup and
> that
> I can make changes there. Well I've tried Safe Mode and I can not make
> changes to the system config startup as either myself or the system admin
> (of
> course) so I don't understand what I can change to allow myself to have
> admin
> authority without conflicting with the system admin. So any ideas to get
> around system admin and why in the h#$% is it there. Maybe there is
> another
> way to get minimize startup programs too.

The built in "Administrator" account is there as a fall back in case
something damages the normal working account. It should not be used for
normal operations. You should create at least one account with
Administrator level privileges and use that one for when Admin privileges
are needed. Create another working account as a limited user and use that
one for normal use.

You don't need to login to the built in Administrator account to manage
startup programs. Any account with admin privileges will do.

"Mike" wrote

> OS: XP home pkg 2
>
> I need a little bit more clearity to my 11/14/06 question "administrator
> "access denied" error". I must of ended the link by closing or rating the
> response.
>
> First I did tried to do my homework in searching through the questions and
> replies about "system administrator" so I have a sort of low level
> understanding of it, why it is there and the purpose of it is a mystery.
>
> My main goal is to be able to access and apply the System Config
> Utility>Startup. I want to minimize the number of startup programs
> thereby
> reducing memory. Andrew E. gave me a good reply that there's actually a
> System Admin in addition to mine that I can see in Safe Mode bootup and
> that
> I can make changes there. Well I've tried Safe Mode and I can not make
> changes to the system config startup as either myself or the system admin
> (of
> course) so I don't understand what I can change to allow myself to have
> admin
> authority without conflicting with the system admin. So any ideas to get
> around system admin and why in the h#$% is it there. Maybe there is
> another
> way to get minimize startup programs too.

The built in "Administrator" account is there as a fall back in case
something damages the normal working account. It should not be used for
normal operations. You should create at least one account with
Administrator level privileges and use that one for when Admin privileges
are needed. Create another working account as a limited user and use that
one for normal use. Here are some links with info on creating user accounts
and copying settings from one account to another.

How to Copy a User Profile
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_logon.htm

HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=279783

You don't need to login to the built in Administrator account to manage
startup programs. Any account with admin privileges will do.

First step should be to check in the options for the program you don't want
to start and see if there is a setting to tell it not to run at startup.
The next step is to remove any entries you don't want from the two startup
folders:

C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

For anything else uncheck their entries in the startup tab of msconfig:
Start | Run | Msconfig | Ok

Another option is to remove the reference to them from one of these keys in
the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

Make sure you have a backup of the registry using a program like ERUNT
before making any changes to the registry.

ERUNT
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on...runt/erunt.txt

Thanks Rock for explain the system admin info and options to check startup
programs. My account is also as an administrator, just me and the system
admin, but it conflicts with the system admin as with trying to make changes
to the System Config Utility (Start | Run | Msconfig | Ok). This is where I
get the administator "access denied" error. So why the conflict and how do I
get around it?

Appreciate all help.

--
Colorado Mike


"Rock" wrote:

> "Mike" wrote
>
> > OS: XP home pkg 2
> >
> > I need a little bit more clearity to my 11/14/06 question "administrator
> > "access denied" error". I must of ended the link by closing or rating the
> > response.
> >
> > First I did tried to do my homework in searching through the questions and
> > replies about "system administrator" so I have a sort of low level
> > understanding of it, why it is there and the purpose of it is a mystery.
> >
> > My main goal is to be able to access and apply the System Config
> > Utility>Startup. I want to minimize the number of startup programs
> > thereby
> > reducing memory. Andrew E. gave me a good reply that there's actually a
> > System Admin in addition to mine that I can see in Safe Mode bootup and
> > that
> > I can make changes there. Well I've tried Safe Mode and I can not make
> > changes to the system config startup as either myself or the system admin
> > (of
> > course) so I don't understand what I can change to allow myself to have
> > admin
> > authority without conflicting with the system admin. So any ideas to get
> > around system admin and why in the h#$% is it there. Maybe there is
> > another
> > way to get minimize startup programs too.
>
> The built in "Administrator" account is there as a fall back in case
> something damages the normal working account. It should not be used for
> normal operations. You should create at least one account with
> Administrator level privileges and use that one for when Admin privileges
> are needed. Create another working account as a limited user and use that
> one for normal use. Here are some links with info on creating user accounts
> and copying settings from one account to another.
>
> How to Copy a User Profile
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_logon.htm
>
> HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=279783
>
> You don't need to login to the built in Administrator account to manage
> startup programs. Any account with admin privileges will do.
>
> First step should be to check in the options for the program you don't want
> to start and see if there is a setting to tell it not to run at startup.
> The next step is to remove any entries you don't want from the two startup
> folders:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>
> For anything else uncheck their entries in the startup tab of msconfig:
> Start | Run | Msconfig | Ok
>
> Another option is to remove the reference to them from one of these keys in
> the registry:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>
> Make sure you have a backup of the registry using a program like ERUNT
> before making any changes to the registry.
>
> ERUNT
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on...runt/erunt.txt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Mike" wrote

> Thanks Rock for explain the system admin info and options to check
> startup
> programs. My account is also as an administrator, just me and the system
> admin, but it conflicts with the system admin as with trying to make
> changes
> to the System Config Utility (Start | Run | Msconfig | Ok). This is where
> I
> get the administator "access denied" error. So why the conflict and how
> do I
> get around it?
>
> Appreciate all help.
>
> --
> Colorado Mike
>
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>> "Mike" wrote
>>
>> > OS: XP home pkg 2
>> >
>> > I need a little bit more clearity to my 11/14/06 question
>> > "administrator
>> > "access denied" error". I must of ended the link by closing or rating
>> > the
>> > response.
>> >
>> > First I did tried to do my homework in searching through the questions
>> > and
>> > replies about "system administrator" so I have a sort of low level
>> > understanding of it, why it is there and the purpose of it is a
>> > mystery.
>> >
>> > My main goal is to be able to access and apply the System Config
>> > Utility>Startup. I want to minimize the number of startup programs
>> > thereby
>> > reducing memory. Andrew E. gave me a good reply that there's actually
>> > a
>> > System Admin in addition to mine that I can see in Safe Mode bootup and
>> > that
>> > I can make changes there. Well I've tried Safe Mode and I can not make
>> > changes to the system config startup as either myself or the system
>> > admin
>> > (of
>> > course) so I don't understand what I can change to allow myself to have
>> > admin
>> > authority without conflicting with the system admin. So any ideas to
>> > get
>> > around system admin and why in the h#$% is it there. Maybe there is
>> > another
>> > way to get minimize startup programs too.
>>
>> The built in "Administrator" account is there as a fall back in case
>> something damages the normal working account. It should not be used for
>> normal operations. You should create at least one account with
>> Administrator level privileges and use that one for when Admin privileges
>> are needed. Create another working account as a limited user and use
>> that
>> one for normal use. Here are some links with info on creating user
>> accounts
>> and copying settings from one account to another.
>>
>> How to Copy a User Profile
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_logon.htm
>>
>> HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=279783
>>
>> You don't need to login to the built in Administrator account to manage
>> startup programs. Any account with admin privileges will do.
>>
>> First step should be to check in the options for the program you don't
>> want
>> to start and see if there is a setting to tell it not to run at startup.
>> The next step is to remove any entries you don't want from the two
>> startup
>> folders:
>>
>> C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>>
>> For anything else uncheck their entries in the startup tab of msconfig:
>> Start | Run | Msconfig | Ok
>>
>> Another option is to remove the reference to them from one of these keys
>> in
>> the registry:
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>>
>> Make sure you have a backup of the registry using a program like ERUNT
>> before making any changes to the registry.
>>
>> ERUNT
>> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on...runt/erunt.txt


There are a variety of causes. Look through some of the links in this
Google groups search for some ideas. Good luck.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wg