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Octavio
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      14th Nov 2009
When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized with
the first name of the person.

How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names first,
and default to it?

Thanks in advance.

 
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Roady [MVP]
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      14th Nov 2009
The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for that
email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved your
addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you might be able
to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is completely free to type in;
it does not need to hold the name of the contact nor does it require it to
contain the email address (it might be convenient though).

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Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

http://www.msoutlook.info/
Real World Questions, Real World Answers

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"Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized with
> the first name of the person.
>
> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names first,
> and default to it?
>
> Thanks in advance.


 
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Octavio
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      14th Nov 2009
I have the names in Outlook's 2007 File As "Last Name, First Name". But
then in my list of Ditstribution List they show as "First Name, Last Name".
If Microsoft did not know that a default business list begin with the Last
Name, and did not provide options for that change in my distribution list,
then I think they made a bu bu there.



"Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> wrote in
message news:O#(E-Mail Removed)...
> The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for
> that email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved your
> addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you might be
> able to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is completely free to
> type in; it does not need to hold the name of the contact nor does it
> require it to contain the email address (it might be convenient though).
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> http://www.msoutlook.info/
> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>
> -----
>
> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized with
>> the first name of the person.
>>
>> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names
>> first, and default to it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

>

 
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Russ Valentine
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      14th Nov 2009
The problem is on your end. If you designated your File As.. field to be
Last, First, you can easily set your address book view to sort by the File
As... field. Do so here:
Tools > Account Settings > Address Book Tab > Outlook Address Book >
Change... >
Then restart Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
"Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have the names in Outlook's 2007 File As "Last Name, First Name". But
>then in my list of Ditstribution List they show as "First Name, Last Name".
>If Microsoft did not know that a default business list begin with the Last
>Name, and did not provide options for that change in my distribution list,
>then I think they made a bu bu there.
>
>
>
> "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> wrote
> in message news:O#(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for
>> that email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved your
>> addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you might be
>> able to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is completely free to
>> type in; it does not need to hold the name of the contact nor does it
>> require it to contain the email address (it might be convenient though).
>>
>> --
>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>
>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>
>> -----
>>
>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized
>>> with the first name of the person.
>>>
>>> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names
>>> first, and default to it?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.

>>


 
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Octavio
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      14th Nov 2009
Thanks, Russ. I followed your advise, and it worked. That is what I was
trying to find, how to do that. It also worked with my Word when I insert
an adrress in the envelope.
But I wonder, how come that Microsoft has something basic thing (setting)
like this hidden in that "super secret location"?


"Russ Valentine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The problem is on your end. If you designated your File As.. field to be
> Last, First, you can easily set your address book view to sort by the File
> As... field. Do so here:
> Tools > Account Settings > Address Book Tab > Outlook Address Book >
> Change... >
> Then restart Outlook.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have the names in Outlook's 2007 File As "Last Name, First Name". But
>>then in my list of Ditstribution List they show as "First Name, Last
>>Name". If Microsoft did not know that a default business list begin with
>>the Last Name, and did not provide options for that change in my
>>distribution list, then I think they made a bu bu there.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> wrote
>> in message news:O#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for
>>> that email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved your
>>> addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you might be
>>> able to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is completely free to
>>> type in; it does not need to hold the name of the contact nor does it
>>> require it to contain the email address (it might be convenient though).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>>
>>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized
>>>> with the first name of the person.
>>>>
>>>> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names
>>>> first, and default to it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>

>

 
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Russ Valentine
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      14th Nov 2009
Excellent question, but you won't like the answer. The Outlook Address Book
Service is an outdated relic, as are many of the features in Outlook.
Microsoft essentially abandoned any improvements to the address book
interface several versions ago and instead focused its attention on the
Contacts Folders for developing features for sorting and customized views of
Contacts. That would have been fine if they had not also forced us to
continue to rely on the old address book service for many of the things we
need to do when selecting recipients. As a result, we have Contacts Folders
that behave one way and the address book view that behaves another--and they
leave us to figure out how to configure and use both with no guidance.
Nice, huh? Until there is a cure for schizophrenia, there will be no cure
for Outlook. Zyprexa doesn't work. I tried it already as an Outlook Add-in.
--
Russ Valentine
"Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks, Russ. I followed your advise, and it worked. That is what I was
> trying to find, how to do that. It also worked with my Word when I insert
> an adrress in the envelope.
> But I wonder, how come that Microsoft has something basic thing (setting)
> like this hidden in that "super secret location"?
>
>
> "Russ Valentine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The problem is on your end. If you designated your File As.. field to be
>> Last, First, you can easily set your address book view to sort by the
>> File As... field. Do so here:
>> Tools > Account Settings > Address Book Tab > Outlook Address Book >
>> Change... >
>> Then restart Outlook.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have the names in Outlook's 2007 File As "Last Name, First Name". But
>>>then in my list of Ditstribution List they show as "First Name, Last
>>>Name". If Microsoft did not know that a default business list begin with
>>>the Last Name, and did not provide options for that change in my
>>>distribution list, then I think they made a bu bu there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net> wrote
>>> in message news:O#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for
>>>> that email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved
>>>> your addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you
>>>> might be able to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is
>>>> completely free to type in; it does not need to hold the name of the
>>>> contact nor does it require it to contain the email address (it might
>>>> be convenient though).
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>>>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>>>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>>>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>>>
>>>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>>>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized
>>>>> with the first name of the person.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names
>>>>> first, and default to it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>

>>


 
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Roady [MVP]
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      14th Nov 2009
> Zyprexa doesn't work. I tried it already as an Outlook Add-in.
LOL :-)

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Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

http://www.msoutlook.info/
Real World Questions, Real World Answers

-----

"Russ Valentine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OjfUB$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Excellent question, but you won't like the answer. The Outlook Address
> Book Service is an outdated relic, as are many of the features in Outlook.
> Microsoft essentially abandoned any improvements to the address book
> interface several versions ago and instead focused its attention on the
> Contacts Folders for developing features for sorting and customized views
> of Contacts. That would have been fine if they had not also forced us to
> continue to rely on the old address book service for many of the things we
> need to do when selecting recipients. As a result, we have Contacts
> Folders that behave one way and the address book view that behaves
> another--and they leave us to figure out how to configure and use both
> with no guidance.
> Nice, huh? Until there is a cure for schizophrenia, there will be no cure
> for Outlook. Zyprexa doesn't work. I tried it already as an Outlook
> Add-in.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks, Russ. I followed your advise, and it worked. That is what I was
>> trying to find, how to do that. It also worked with my Word when I
>> insert an adrress in the envelope.
>> But I wonder, how come that Microsoft has something basic thing (setting)
>> like this hidden in that "super secret location"?
>>
>>
>> "Russ Valentine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The problem is on your end. If you designated your File As.. field to be
>>> Last, First, you can easily set your address book view to sort by the
>>> File As... field. Do so here:
>>> Tools > Account Settings > Address Book Tab > Outlook Address Book >
>>> Change... >
>>> Then restart Outlook.
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have the names in Outlook's 2007 File As "Last Name, First Name".
>>>>But then in my list of Ditstribution List they show as "First Name, Last
>>>>Name". If Microsoft did not know that a default business list begin with
>>>>the Last Name, and did not provide options for that change in my
>>>>distribution list, then I think they made a bu bu there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
>>>> wrote in message news:O#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for
>>>>> that email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved
>>>>> your addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you
>>>>> might be able to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is
>>>>> completely free to type in; it does not need to hold the name of the
>>>>> contact nor does it require it to contain the email address (it might
>>>>> be convenient though).
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>>>>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>>>>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>>>>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>>>>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized
>>>>>> with the first name of the person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names
>>>>>> first, and default to it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>

>

 
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Octavio
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      15th Nov 2009
Thanks, Russ. I have already noticed some discrepancies, what you talk
about, but I did not really understood the reasons until now, or why certain
things did not agree with some of the others. I think you are right, there
are some loose ends that have not been resolved. Thanks for the
enlightement.

"Russ Valentine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OjfUB$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Excellent question, but you won't like the answer. The Outlook Address
> Book Service is an outdated relic, as are many of the features in Outlook.
> Microsoft essentially abandoned any improvements to the address book
> interface several versions ago and instead focused its attention on the
> Contacts Folders for developing features for sorting and customized views
> of Contacts. That would have been fine if they had not also forced us to
> continue to rely on the old address book service for many of the things we
> need to do when selecting recipients. As a result, we have Contacts
> Folders that behave one way and the address book view that behaves
> another--and they leave us to figure out how to configure and use both
> with no guidance.
> Nice, huh? Until there is a cure for schizophrenia, there will be no cure
> for Outlook. Zyprexa doesn't work. I tried it already as an Outlook
> Add-in.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks, Russ. I followed your advise, and it worked. That is what I was
>> trying to find, how to do that. It also worked with my Word when I
>> insert an adrress in the envelope.
>> But I wonder, how come that Microsoft has something basic thing (setting)
>> like this hidden in that "super secret location"?
>>
>>
>> "Russ Valentine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The problem is on your end. If you designated your File As.. field to be
>>> Last, First, you can easily set your address book view to sort by the
>>> File As... field. Do so here:
>>> Tools > Account Settings > Address Book Tab > Outlook Address Book >
>>> Change... >
>>> Then restart Outlook.
>>> --
>>> Russ Valentine
>>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have the names in Outlook's 2007 File As "Last Name, First Name".
>>>>But then in my list of Ditstribution List they show as "First Name, Last
>>>>Name". If Microsoft did not know that a default business list begin with
>>>>the Last Name, and did not provide options for that change in my
>>>>distribution list, then I think they made a bu bu there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
>>>> wrote in message news:O#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> The listings are based on the "Display As" name you have specified for
>>>>> that email address. So you'll have to change the way that you saved
>>>>> your addresses. There is no option to change this globally but you
>>>>> might be able to do it with some VBA. Note that this field is
>>>>> completely free to type in; it does not need to hold the name of the
>>>>> contact nor does it require it to contain the email address (it might
>>>>> be convenient though).
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>>>>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>>>>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>>>>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>>>>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> "Octavio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> When I get my "Contatct List: Select Mambers" , my list is organized
>>>>>> with the first name of the person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I make this list shown organized to the person's last names
>>>>>> first, and default to it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>

>

 
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