I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists on
asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has run or
while it is still running and the action box always defaults to permit and
every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program isn't
spyware because I wrote it.

How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and stop
asking about it?

Thanks
Zoltan

put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will stop
bugging you

Tools/options/ advanced options
Do not scan these files or locations-
click ADD
and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
Just make sure you save it when finished
Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
robin

Also
"Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists on
> asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has run
> or
> while it is still running and the action box always defaults to permit and
> every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program isn't
> spyware because I wrote it.
>
> How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and stop
> asking about it?
>
> Thanks
> Zoltan

It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can try?

Thanks


"Robinb" wrote:

> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will stop
> bugging you
>
> Tools/options/ advanced options
> Do not scan these files or locations-
> click ADD
> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
> Just make sure you save it when finished
> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
> robin
>
> Also
> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists on
> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has run
> > or
> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to permit and
> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program isn't
> > spyware because I wrote it.
> >
> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and stop
> > asking about it?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Zoltan
>
>
>

Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or maybe
shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking at
the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show hidden
tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a task--maybe you
could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you have in
the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?

--

"Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
> It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can try?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Robinb" wrote:
>
>> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will stop
>> bugging you
>>
>> Tools/options/ advanced options
>> Do not scan these files or locations-
>> click ADD
>> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
>> Just make sure you save it when finished
>> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
>> robin
>>
>> Also
>> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists on
>> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has
>> > run
>> > or
>> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to permit
>> > and
>> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program
>> > isn't
>> > spyware because I wrote it.
>> >
>> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and
>> > stop
>> > asking about it?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Zoltan
>>
>>
>>

As I said this is a program that I wrote, some more details. The program
resides in a general executable directory for my programs with a link to it
in the startup folder. I went through the Defender steps to add the link to
the "Do not scan" list and it inserted the actual path to the program from
the link but not the path to the link. Everytime I started windows (XP sp2)
the message "Changes found" would come up and clicking on it always brought
up a screen showing the same suspect file name with permit as the action
choice, of course I would always select yes. Yesterday I added the startup
directory to the "Do not scan" list and there was no message today when I
started. I realize excluding the startup directory is probably not the best
thing to do but for the time being it stops the nagging.

The program in question is designed to control the startup characteristics
of programs, i.e. once a day, don't run the next program til this completes,
wait a while before starting etc.

Zoltan

"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or maybe
> shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking at
> the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show hidden
> tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a task--maybe you
> could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you have in
> the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?
>
> --
>
> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can try?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > "Robinb" wrote:
> >
> >> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will stop
> >> bugging you
> >>
> >> Tools/options/ advanced options
> >> Do not scan these files or locations-
> >> click ADD
> >> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
> >> Just make sure you save it when finished
> >> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
> >> robin
> >>
> >> Also
> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists on
> >> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has
> >> > run
> >> > or
> >> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to permit
> >> > and
> >> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program
> >> > isn't
> >> > spyware because I wrote it.
> >> >
> >> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and
> >> > stop
> >> > asking about it?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Zoltan
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I think you've found the solution. I agree that this isn't optimal, but
perhaps your antivirus is scanning that folder as a backup.


--

"Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0439A8C4-BA7B-4569-8572-(E-Mail Removed)...
> As I said this is a program that I wrote, some more details. The program
> resides in a general executable directory for my programs with a link to
> it
> in the startup folder. I went through the Defender steps to add the link
> to
> the "Do not scan" list and it inserted the actual path to the program from
> the link but not the path to the link. Everytime I started windows (XP
> sp2)
> the message "Changes found" would come up and clicking on it always
> brought
> up a screen showing the same suspect file name with permit as the action
> choice, of course I would always select yes. Yesterday I added the startup
> directory to the "Do not scan" list and there was no message today when I
> started. I realize excluding the startup directory is probably not the
> best
> thing to do but for the time being it stops the nagging.
>
> The program in question is designed to control the startup characteristics
> of programs, i.e. once a day, don't run the next program til this
> completes,
> wait a while before starting etc.
>
> Zoltan
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or maybe
>> shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking at
>> the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show hidden
>> tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a task--maybe
>> you
>> could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you have
>> in
>> the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can try?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robinb" wrote:
>> >
>> >> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will
>> >> stop
>> >> bugging you
>> >>
>> >> Tools/options/ advanced options
>> >> Do not scan these files or locations-
>> >> click ADD
>> >> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
>> >> Just make sure you save it when finished
>> >> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
>> >> robin
>> >>
>> >> Also
>> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists
>> >> >on
>> >> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has
>> >> > run
>> >> > or
>> >> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to
>> >> > permit
>> >> > and
>> >> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program
>> >> > isn't
>> >> > spyware because I wrote it.
>> >> >
>> >> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and
>> >> > stop
>> >> > asking about it?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Zoltan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

I have a similar problem but in defender i have no advanced options and see
no way of letting a program run at start up against current defender settings.
Any ideas please would be appreciated.

"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> I think you've found the solution. I agree that this isn't optimal, but
> perhaps your antivirus is scanning that folder as a backup.
>
>
> --
>
> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:0439A8C4-BA7B-4569-8572-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > As I said this is a program that I wrote, some more details. The program
> > resides in a general executable directory for my programs with a link to
> > it
> > in the startup folder. I went through the Defender steps to add the link
> > to
> > the "Do not scan" list and it inserted the actual path to the program from
> > the link but not the path to the link. Everytime I started windows (XP
> > sp2)
> > the message "Changes found" would come up and clicking on it always
> > brought
> > up a screen showing the same suspect file name with permit as the action
> > choice, of course I would always select yes. Yesterday I added the startup
> > directory to the "Do not scan" list and there was no message today when I
> > started. I realize excluding the startup directory is probably not the
> > best
> > thing to do but for the time being it stops the nagging.
> >
> > The program in question is designed to control the startup characteristics
> > of programs, i.e. once a day, don't run the next program til this
> > completes,
> > wait a while before starting etc.
> >
> > Zoltan
> >
> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
> >
> >> Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or maybe
> >> shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking at
> >> the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show hidden
> >> tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a task--maybe
> >> you
> >> could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you have
> >> in
> >> the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can try?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Robinb" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will
> >> >> stop
> >> >> bugging you
> >> >>
> >> >> Tools/options/ advanced options
> >> >> Do not scan these files or locations-
> >> >> click ADD
> >> >> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
> >> >> Just make sure you save it when finished
> >> >> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
> >> >> robin
> >> >>
> >> >> Also
> >> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists
> >> >> >on
> >> >> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has
> >> >> > run
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to
> >> >> > permit
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program
> >> >> > isn't
> >> >> > spyware because I wrote it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and
> >> >> > stop
> >> >> > asking about it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> > Zoltan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

This setting is a bit hidden--In Windows Defender, go to Tools, then
Options. Then use the scroll bar on the right side of the window to scroll
down--you will see the area to add scan exclusions, as well as other option
choices. I recommend that folks not change the defaults without careful
consideration.

--

"Barry2k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:56EC73C0-E99B-4BB9-90B9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a similar problem but in defender i have no advanced options and see
> no way of letting a program run at start up against current defender
> settings.
> Any ideas please would be appreciated.
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> I think you've found the solution. I agree that this isn't optimal, but
>> perhaps your antivirus is scanning that folder as a backup.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:0439A8C4-BA7B-4569-8572-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > As I said this is a program that I wrote, some more details. The
>> > program
>> > resides in a general executable directory for my programs with a link
>> > to
>> > it
>> > in the startup folder. I went through the Defender steps to add the
>> > link
>> > to
>> > the "Do not scan" list and it inserted the actual path to the program
>> > from
>> > the link but not the path to the link. Everytime I started windows (XP
>> > sp2)
>> > the message "Changes found" would come up and clicking on it always
>> > brought
>> > up a screen showing the same suspect file name with permit as the
>> > action
>> > choice, of course I would always select yes. Yesterday I added the
>> > startup
>> > directory to the "Do not scan" list and there was no message today when
>> > I
>> > started. I realize excluding the startup directory is probably not the
>> > best
>> > thing to do but for the time being it stops the nagging.
>> >
>> > The program in question is designed to control the startup
>> > characteristics
>> > of programs, i.e. once a day, don't run the next program til this
>> > completes,
>> > wait a while before starting etc.
>> >
>> > Zoltan
>> >
>> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or
>> >> maybe
>> >> shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking
>> >> at
>> >> the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show
>> >> hidden
>> >> tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a
>> >> task--maybe
>> >> you
>> >> could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you
>> >> have
>> >> in
>> >> the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can
>> >> > try?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robinb" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will
>> >> >> stop
>> >> >> bugging you
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tools/options/ advanced options
>> >> >> Do not scan these files or locations-
>> >> >> click ADD
>> >> >> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
>> >> >> Just make sure you save it when finished
>> >> >> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
>> >> >> robin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also
>> >> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender
>> >> >> >insists
>> >> >> >on
>> >> >> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > run
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to
>> >> >> > permit
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the
>> >> >> > program
>> >> >> > isn't
>> >> >> > spyware because I wrote it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > stop
>> >> >> > asking about it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > Zoltan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Thanks for that info Bill.
However i have tried many of the advance options options with no success and
resigned myself to turning defender off as i really need the application to
run and sync my network drive.
Yet .... it was still blocked by defender on start up and when i right click
task bar icon it opens now windows security centre (instead of defender) and
this tells me defender is ON, yet if i open defender it says it is turned off
.... now really confused.
Help !

"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> This setting is a bit hidden--In Windows Defender, go to Tools, then
> Options. Then use the scroll bar on the right side of the window to scroll
> down--you will see the area to add scan exclusions, as well as other option
> choices. I recommend that folks not change the defaults without careful
> consideration.
>
> --
>
> "Barry2k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:56EC73C0-E99B-4BB9-90B9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have a similar problem but in defender i have no advanced options and see
> > no way of letting a program run at start up against current defender
> > settings.
> > Any ideas please would be appreciated.
> >
> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
> >
> >> I think you've found the solution. I agree that this isn't optimal, but
> >> perhaps your antivirus is scanning that folder as a backup.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:0439A8C4-BA7B-4569-8572-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > As I said this is a program that I wrote, some more details. The
> >> > program
> >> > resides in a general executable directory for my programs with a link
> >> > to
> >> > it
> >> > in the startup folder. I went through the Defender steps to add the
> >> > link
> >> > to
> >> > the "Do not scan" list and it inserted the actual path to the program
> >> > from
> >> > the link but not the path to the link. Everytime I started windows (XP
> >> > sp2)
> >> > the message "Changes found" would come up and clicking on it always
> >> > brought
> >> > up a screen showing the same suspect file name with permit as the
> >> > action
> >> > choice, of course I would always select yes. Yesterday I added the
> >> > startup
> >> > directory to the "Do not scan" list and there was no message today when
> >> > I
> >> > started. I realize excluding the startup directory is probably not the
> >> > best
> >> > thing to do but for the time being it stops the nagging.
> >> >
> >> > The program in question is designed to control the startup
> >> > characteristics
> >> > of programs, i.e. once a day, don't run the next program til this
> >> > completes,
> >> > wait a while before starting etc.
> >> >
> >> > Zoltan
> >> >
> >> > "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or
> >> >> maybe
> >> >> shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking
> >> >> at
> >> >> the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show
> >> >> hidden
> >> >> tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a
> >> >> task--maybe
> >> >> you
> >> >> could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you
> >> >> have
> >> >> in
> >> >> the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can
> >> >> > try?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Robinb" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will
> >> >> >> stop
> >> >> >> bugging you
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Tools/options/ advanced options
> >> >> >> Do not scan these files or locations-
> >> >> >> click ADD
> >> >> >> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
> >> >> >> Just make sure you save it when finished
> >> >> >> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
> >> >> >> robin
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also
> >> >> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender
> >> >> >> >insists
> >> >> >> >on
> >> >> >> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program
> >> >> >> > has
> >> >> >> > run
> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to
> >> >> >> > permit
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the
> >> >> >> > program
> >> >> >> > isn't
> >> >> >> > spyware because I wrote it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > stop
> >> >> >> > asking about it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> > Zoltan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hi Zoltan,

I would not recommend adding the startup folder to the Do Not Scan list. I
would however, recommend turning off unknown item scanning. That way you
will still be protected from threats that may use the startup folder to
execute.

To turn off unknown scanning, go to Tools > Options. Under "Real-Time
Protection Options, uncheck the box that says "Software that has not yet
been classified for disks". Click [Save].

Hope this helps!

Thanks,
~Shiroy.

"Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0439A8C4-BA7B-4569-8572-(E-Mail Removed)...
> As I said this is a program that I wrote, some more details. The program
> resides in a general executable directory for my programs with a link to
> it
> in the startup folder. I went through the Defender steps to add the link
> to
> the "Do not scan" list and it inserted the actual path to the program from
> the link but not the path to the link. Everytime I started windows (XP
> sp2)
> the message "Changes found" would come up and clicking on it always
> brought
> up a screen showing the same suspect file name with permit as the action
> choice, of course I would always select yes. Yesterday I added the startup
> directory to the "Do not scan" list and there was no message today when I
> started. I realize excluding the startup directory is probably not the
> best
> thing to do but for the time being it stops the nagging.
>
> The program in question is designed to control the startup characteristics
> of programs, i.e. once a day, don't run the next program til this
> completes,
> wait a while before starting etc.
>
> Zoltan
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> Some items that have this issue are re-created at every startup (or maybe
>> shutdown.) You may be able to see whether this is the case by looking at
>> the scheduled tasks, and clicking on advanced in the menus to show hidden
>> tasks. I'm not sure I know a way to handle this for such a task--maybe
>> you
>> could give us more details--what's the message you get, what do you have
>> in
>> the do not scan list, and what is the executable related to?
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1EAE4044-18B7-4EF0-8A31-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > It's already listed in the do not scan list, anything else I can try?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robinb" wrote:
>> >
>> >> put it into the do not scan these files or location box and it will
>> >> stop
>> >> bugging you
>> >>
>> >> Tools/options/ advanced options
>> >> Do not scan these files or locations-
>> >> click ADD
>> >> and find the exe or file you do not want it to scan or touch.
>> >> Just make sure you save it when finished
>> >> Sometimes this works even when it is not doing a scan.
>> >> robin
>> >>
>> >> Also
>> >> "Zoltan K." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:CD972A07-B1A4-4EB9-AB66-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I have a program that always runs after I log in and Defender insists
>> >> >on
>> >> > asking me if it's permited. The message occurs after the program has
>> >> > run
>> >> > or
>> >> > while it is still running and the action box always defaults to
>> >> > permit
>> >> > and
>> >> > every time I say apply with permit still showing. I know the program
>> >> > isn't
>> >> > spyware because I wrote it.
>> >> >
>> >> > How can I get Defender to get the message that the program is OK and
>> >> > stop
>> >> > asking about it?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Zoltan
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