Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
to ICS on the WiFi link.
Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:33:02 -0800, Henning
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
>I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
>Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
>files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
>to ICS on the WiFi link.
>Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.

Yes, it's possible. On the host computer, share the USB modem
connection, and tell it to use the WiFi connection for the home
network. From your description, I think that you've configured the
host to share the wrong connection.

Then, check the TCP/IP configuration on the client's WiFi connection.
It should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
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Hi Steve, many thanks for your quick response.
I may need more info. I did as you said but still no go.
I cannot ping the machines - just gives timeout. Should the ip's be static
or not?
I currently changed it to 192.168.0.1 for the host and .2 for the client
with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 on the wifi connection.
Should I be able to ping the host and vice versa?
Do I need a static DNS server on the host?
Kind regards.

"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:33:02 -0800, Henning
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
> >I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
> >Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
> >files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
> >to ICS on the WiFi link.
> >Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.
>
> Yes, it's possible. On the host computer, share the USB modem
> connection, and tell it to use the WiFi connection for the home
> network. From your description, I think that you've configured the
> host to share the wrong connection.
>
> Then, check the TCP/IP configuration on the client's WiFi connection.
> It should show:
>
> IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
> DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
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>

Steve, I managed to get the 2 laptops to ping each other. From the client I
can see a connection to the internet gateway and internet. When opening IE7
it still does not connect. On the diagnosis it shows: "FTP (passive)
Successfully connected to FTP.microsoft.com" But I get error: 12002 (the
operation timed out) - on the HTTP and HTTPS connections. I can even alter
the internet connection services from the client. Which client services
should be ticked and what should the settings be?
Thanks for your help!

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:12:00 -0800, Henning
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
>> >I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
>> >Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
>> >files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
>> >to ICS on the WiFi link.
>> >Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.
>>
>> Yes, it's possible. On the host computer, share the USB modem
>> connection, and tell it to use the WiFi connection for the home
>> network. From your description, I think that you've configured the
>> host to share the wrong connection.
>>
>> Then, check the TCP/IP configuration on the client's WiFi connection.
>> It should show:
>>
>> IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
>> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
>> DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
>
>Hi Steve, many thanks for your quick response.
>I may need more info. I did as you said but still no go.
>I cannot ping the machines - just gives timeout. Should the ip's be static
>or not?
>I currently changed it to 192.168.0.1 for the host and .2 for the client
>with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 on the wifi connection.
>Should I be able to ping the host and vice versa?
>Do I need a static DNS server on the host?
>Kind regards.

You're welcome.

Don't make any maual TCP/IP settings on either computer. Let Windows
make those settings automatically.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 01:53:01 -0800, Henning
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Steve, I managed to get the 2 laptops to ping each other. From the client I
>can see a connection to the internet gateway and internet. When opening IE7
>it still does not connect. On the diagnosis it shows: "FTP (passive)
>Successfully connected to FTP.microsoft.com" But I get error: 12002 (the
>operation timed out) - on the HTTP and HTTPS connections. I can even alter
>the internet connection services from the client. Which client services
>should be ticked and what should the settings be?
>Thanks for your help!

I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "internet connection
services" and "client services". Where do you see them?

Do the HTTP and HTTPS connections that fail on the client work
successfully on the host? If so, the problem could involve the MTU
setting on the client. Here's a possible fix:

1. Find the right MTU setting on the client, as shown here:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107

2. Make the setting manually on the client , or useDrTCP to make it:

http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Hi, when you click on properties of the Host Internet connection and go to
the window where you switch the ICS on, there is a "settings" box (lower one)
you can click. It gives you "Services" to choose. No services are ticked. Is
that OK?

Anyway, I did exactly as described on the website link and double checked ot
with DrTCP. I found the highest MTU that worked was 1472.
I restarted the client but still only get the FTP to work. HTTP + HTTPS
still give timeouts. Any other ideas?
Highly appreciated!


"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 01:53:01 -0800, Henning
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Steve, I managed to get the 2 laptops to ping each other. From the client I
> >can see a connection to the internet gateway and internet. When opening IE7
> >it still does not connect. On the diagnosis it shows: "FTP (passive)
> >Successfully connected to FTP.microsoft.com" But I get error: 12002 (the
> >operation timed out) - on the HTTP and HTTPS connections. I can even alter
> >the internet connection services from the client. Which client services
> >should be ticked and what should the settings be?
> >Thanks for your help!
>
> I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "internet connection
> services" and "client services". Where do you see them?
>
> Do the HTTP and HTTPS connections that fail on the client work
> successfully on the host? If so, the problem could involve the MTU
> setting on the client. Here's a possible fix:
>
> 1. Find the right MTU setting on the client, as shown here:
>
> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107
>
> 2. Make the setting manually on the client , or useDrTCP to make it:
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>

I removed all the static IPs. Ping still works fine. File sharing works fine.
FTP, HTTP and HTTPS don't work. On IPCONFIG on the client Wireless Network
connection it doesn't show an address for the Gateway. Internet works
perfectly on the host. When I plug the USB modem directly into the client,
Internet works perfectly. Any more ideas?
Kind regards.

"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:12:00 -0800, Henning
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
> >> >I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
> >> >Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
> >> >files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
> >> >to ICS on the WiFi link.
> >> >Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.
> >>
> >> Yes, it's possible. On the host computer, share the USB modem
> >> connection, and tell it to use the WiFi connection for the home
> >> network. From your description, I think that you've configured the
> >> host to share the wrong connection.
> >>
> >> Then, check the TCP/IP configuration on the client's WiFi connection.
> >> It should show:
> >>
> >> IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
> >> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> >> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
> >> DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
> >
> >Hi Steve, many thanks for your quick response.
> >I may need more info. I did as you said but still no go.
> >I cannot ping the machines - just gives timeout. Should the ip's be static
> >or not?
> >I currently changed it to 192.168.0.1 for the host and .2 for the client
> >with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 on the wifi connection.
> >Should I be able to ping the host and vice versa?
> >Do I need a static DNS server on the host?
> >Kind regards.
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Don't make any maual TCP/IP settings on either computer. Let Windows
> make those settings automatically.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:38:00 -0800, Henning
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >Steve, I managed to get the 2 laptops to ping each other. From the client I
>> >can see a connection to the internet gateway and internet. When opening IE7
>> >it still does not connect. On the diagnosis it shows: "FTP (passive)
>> >Successfully connected to FTP.microsoft.com" But I get error: 12002 (the
>> >operation timed out) - on the HTTP and HTTPS connections. I can even alter
>> >the internet connection services from the client. Which client services
>> >should be ticked and what should the settings be?
>> >Thanks for your help!
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "internet connection
>> services" and "client services". Where do you see them?
>>
>> Do the HTTP and HTTPS connections that fail on the client work
>> successfully on the host? If so, the problem could involve the MTU
>> setting on the client. Here's a possible fix:
>>
>> 1. Find the right MTU setting on the client, as shown here:
>>
>> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107
>>
>> 2. Make the setting manually on the client , or useDrTCP to make it:
>>
>> http://www.dslreports.com/front/drtcp.html
>
>Hi, when you click on properties of the Host Internet connection and go to
>the window where you switch the ICS on, there is a "settings" box (lower one)
>you can click. It gives you "Services" to choose. No services are ticked. Is
>that OK?

Thanks for the explanation. I don't think that you need to make any
settings for the services. That's only required if you run a server
(web, FTP, Remote Desktop, etc) on the client and want to connect to
that server from computers on the Internet.

>Anyway, I did exactly as described on the website link and double checked ot
>with DrTCP. I found the highest MTU that worked was 1472.
>I restarted the client but still only get the FTP to work. HTTP + HTTPS
>still give timeouts. Any other ideas?
>Highly appreciated!

On the client, go to Internet Explorer > Tools > Internet Options >
Connections > LAN Settings, and un-check all of the boxes.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:12:01 -0800, Henning
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >> >Hi, maybe I'm stupid or just weird.
>> >> >I have 2 Dell Laptops with built-in WiFi. The one is connected to Telecom
>> >> >Mobile Broadband via a USB modem. It works fine. The 2 laptops can share
>> >> >files neatly. But I cannot get the client to access internet. The Host is set
>> >> >to ICS on the WiFi link.
>> >> >Any ideas or is it impossible without a router?.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, it's possible. On the host computer, share the USB modem
>> >> connection, and tell it to use the WiFi connection for the home
>> >> network. From your description, I think that you've configured the
>> >> host to share the wrong connection.
>> >>
>> >> Then, check the TCP/IP configuration on the client's WiFi connection.
>> >> It should show:
>> >>
>> >> IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
>> >> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>> >> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
>> >> DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
>> >
>> >Hi Steve, many thanks for your quick response.
>> >I may need more info. I did as you said but still no go.
>> >I cannot ping the machines - just gives timeout. Should the ip's be static
>> >or not?
>> >I currently changed it to 192.168.0.1 for the host and .2 for the client
>> >with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 on the wifi connection.
>> >Should I be able to ping the host and vice versa?
>> >Do I need a static DNS server on the host?
>> >Kind regards.
>>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> Don't make any maual TCP/IP settings on either computer. Let Windows
>> make those settings automatically.
>
>I removed all the static IPs. Ping still works fine. File sharing works fine.
> FTP, HTTP and HTTPS don't work. On IPCONFIG on the client Wireless Network
>connection it doesn't show an address for the Gateway. Internet works
>perfectly on the host. When I plug the USB modem directly into the client,
>Internet works perfectly. Any more ideas?
>Kind regards.

The client needs a Default Gateway setting. Are its other settings
right? They should be:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

The host's wireless connection should have:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

If either computer doesn't have those settings, ICS isn't set up
properly. In that case, un-share and then re-share the host's
Internet connection.

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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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